Men/women, Lets cut to the chase ( Archived) (75)

Jan 3, 2007 4:00 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
It sounds like you have dated a few jerks. What attracted you to these men?
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Jan 3, 2007 4:13 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
rosiedoll
rosiedollrosiedollanadarko, USA113 Threads 1,431 Posts
HELL YOU CAN DO ALL THAT ,THEN WHY CAN'T YOU COOK AND GO TO GROCERY STORE?? yOU DON'T NEED A WOMAN. doh
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Jan 3, 2007 4:20 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
No, that's what you didn't know about them. What attracted you to them? There must have been something.
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Jan 3, 2007 4:24 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
"Not saying you don't fall into that catagory, and yes I do believe there are good men out there that do, but they are few and far between and very hard to find. Maybe that's why some of us are as cautious as we seem to be.
Hope my point of view helps"

This has me a bit curious, what type of man were you looking for when you met your ex-husband? Were you looking for one of those "good men" that you say are few and far between when you met your husband or was it something else?
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Jan 3, 2007 4:42 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
Integraverence
IntegraverenceIntegraverence20 Threads 1,007 Posts
Because they initially presented themselves as the opposite of what I had stated before.
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Jan 3, 2007 4:43 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
cooldude747
cooldude747cooldude747Crest Hill, USA100 Threads 1,234 Posts
If someone asks you to marry them. Ask them. "For how long?"And "Sign here. "professor
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Jan 3, 2007 4:46 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
I see, were there any clues at all that might have led you to believe that he was disingenuous? What were his good qualities? Surely there must have been something that attracted you to him other than a facade of kindness. How long did you date?
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Jan 3, 2007 4:53 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
cooldude747
cooldude747cooldude747Crest Hill, USA100 Threads 1,234 Posts
Because I would like to have her earn her keep somehow. confused
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Jan 3, 2007 4:59 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
"earn her keep"...that's all it's ever about with you, eh?
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Jan 3, 2007 5:04 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
cooldude747
cooldude747cooldude747Crest Hill, USA100 Threads 1,234 Posts
Lets face it. Who (woman) on gods green Earth would ever care for a guy unless he had something (Namely an income), if he didnt lie to her....."Oh honey I love you" and phoney stuff like that. That is why most of you are bitter in the first place. The phoney doesnt last but the Mula does as long as he is working.professor
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Jan 3, 2007 5:08 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
babe, i'm so not bitter. i'm not jaded...nor cynical, nor any of that.

some men, you know...say "oh, honey, i love you" and mean it. and that's more important than that yacht of yours.

i would wonder, if i were you...if the woman by my side was with me for my money, or for me. cause the way you focus on your income...you may just attract women that ALSO focus on it.
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Jan 3, 2007 5:13 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
Integraverence
IntegraverenceIntegraverence20 Threads 1,007 Posts
Not right off the bat, but, sure, little by little the clues came out. Not the first day or second day or even the first week or month, even.

The problem was that they led me to believe they wanted a relationship with me, when they really didn't. And by the time that was revealed to me, I was already "smitten." Not "in love," mind you, but very taken and very much wanting it to lead to something more permanent...but this is all based on the fact that's what they said, some point blank and others in a more "obscure" way.

What attracted me to them beyond a facade of kindness? They were physically attractive (to me). Most were not drop dead gorgeous or even good-looking, by most people's definition of the word. a few I've dated have fallen into the "hot damn" category. Makes no difference. They all do the same. They were attentive. VERY much so. They were intelligent and very good conversationalists, many of them, which is a huge attraction for me. They were superb lovers. And various other reasons.

How long I dated depends on the guy. Some not long at all. Some I dated long after I should have told them to hit the road.
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Jan 3, 2007 5:24 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
So, we are talking about more than one. What did they do for a living? Did any of them cheet? Why do you suppose they were able to decieve you?
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Jan 3, 2007 7:35 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
Integraverence
IntegraverenceIntegraverence20 Threads 1,007 Posts
Yes, we're talking about more than one. We're talking about my life as a single woman for the better part of 30+ years.

What did they do for a living? Hmmm...not sure where that has any significance, but let's see...

My first "real" boyfriend was my daughter's father. He was a bass player in a Southern rock band and held various other jobs: electrician, welder, stuff like that. He left me for a girl a year younger than me, denied his daughter, didn't pay one red cent of child support and met her for the first time when she was 28 years old.

The second guy I fell in love with (if memory serves) was a firefighter (lieutenant) who some years later became the chief and then retired. Although he doesn't really count, cuz he never did anything deliberately to deceive me. We just ended up not being together. I'd be with him to this day if I could. That's how much respect I have for the man.

The third guy I fell in love with was a dentist who taught as a professor at a dental school of a local university. He was separated and planned to get a divorce. (Yeah, right) Changed his mind. She was a securities trader who made mega mega bucks and he, by his own admission, "couldn't" give that up.

The fourth guy I fell for is an HVAC tech and has been for some 25 years. He was short and bore a striking resemblance to Danny Bonnaduce.

The fifth guy was an ER doc and also was supposed to be going through a divorce. (Turns out he was playing almost the exact same thing with another woman and maybe even more...I couldn't even begin to tell you what a drama that experience has been...it's so bizarre it's even entertaining!)

Did any of them cheat? Yeah, most of them did. The thing is, what they would do is either say, or act, as though they wanted a relationship, tell me they loved me, etc., one day, then the "next day" either decide to go back to their previous spouse/gf or go on and date other people, etc. Specially the HVAC guy. He went through a lot of women. He was more interested in proving how much of a "man" he was by conquering every woman who would let him than he was with having one good woman by his side. Well, he did want that...off and on.

Anyway...the common denominators amongst all of them was that they all were male..

..and that not one of them was a Christian (and I am) ...not that that has any significance, necessarily, but...

They were "able" to deceive me because they looked at me and, without batting an eyelash, flat out lied to me. I'm not by any stretch of the imagination "naive," but, because it's so foreign of me to tell a lie, I presume that when someone says "I love you" or "I want to be with you," then I should take them at face value. Silly me.
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Jan 5, 2007 5:39 PM CST Men/women, Lets cut to the chase
cooldude747
cooldude747cooldude747Crest Hill, USA100 Threads 1,234 Posts
Please continue.professor
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