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Jan 10, 2008 2:22 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
Is what is good good because the gods commanded it or did the gods command it because it was good? In other words, Are the things that are valuable, valuable because we value them or do we value them because they are valuable?)
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Jan 10, 2008 2:29 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
OK...put it this way...

a Mercedes means NOTHING to me but since society thinks so.....I could sell it for something I consider valuable

therefore a Mercedes is valuable to me......Bummer, I guess I can't be a purest.
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Jan 10, 2008 2:45 AM CST Value Circle
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Hmm .. Neither .. the things we consider valuable in todays times are really not of any * real value but materialisic.

What is of * real value in life is not materialistic and cant be tagged with a certain value and even then not many value it.

dunno
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Jan 10, 2008 2:49 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
To be able to give more would be valuable to me.
This is a non-materialistic endeavor.
To be able to give more, I must have more.
To try to attain more is a materialistic endeavor.

Is materialism valuable to an altruist?
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Jan 10, 2008 2:52 AM CST Value Circle
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
wave

hmhmm.. To be able to give more in the non materialistic way .. one needs to have a warm outlook and great desire for good . Both non materialistic ???
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Jan 10, 2008 2:59 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
wave sounds valuable to me!!!thumbs up

Basic human kindness is free, good, and valuable.
So is the desire to give.

If you try to acquire more for charitable purposes, are you a materialist?
Are you good?
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Jan 10, 2008 2:59 AM CST Value Circle
Darvis
DarvisDarvisCamagüey, Central Cuba Cuba1 Threads 16 Posts
We give things the value we think they have or deserve, but it doesn't mean that being valuable or not is something absolute, it changes according to situations.
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Jan 10, 2008 3:05 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
American settlers needed buffalo waste to heat their modest homes.

Therefore BS was valuablerolling on the floor laughing just as it is when posting in threads.
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Jan 10, 2008 3:10 AM CST Value Circle
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
I find that a good, nonmaterialistic way of 'giving' is to empower a person to achieve for themselves.

Sitting and chatting and just bringing up relevant subject areas leaves people with food for thought - a priceless gift in any language thumbs up
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Jan 10, 2008 3:13 AM CST Value Circle
raavana
raavanaraavanagampaha, Western Sri Lanka40 Threads 4 Polls 681 Posts
in my life there are three priceless things can be seen.
my parents
philosophy of load buddhah
and my true sweet love...professor smitten cheers
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Jan 10, 2008 3:21 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
Agreedthumbs up , but (devil's advocate here) an oasis is more valuable to a dehydrated man than any sentiment.

Encouragement has "metaphoric" value, but worthless to someone who needs water.

Although, if they don't think they have the strength to crawl to the oasis and your encouragement motivates them to get there.......it is just as valuable as the water itself.
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Jan 10, 2008 3:41 AM CST Value Circle
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
laugh

its kind of like 'irresistible force meeting unmovable object' - we have to find a way around instead and do our best to make sure there are no casualties - we can only do the best we can with whatever tools we have at our disposal - beyond this is impossible till we find a way forward sigh
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Jan 10, 2008 3:50 AM CST Value Circle
tunnelwary
tunnelwarytunnelwaryLa Jolla, California USA30 Threads 601 Posts
thumbs up true value
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Jan 10, 2008 5:05 AM CST Value Circle
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
thumbs up
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Jan 10, 2008 5:11 AM CST Value Circle
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I think most Mercedes are ugly....so I have no opinion laugh
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Jan 10, 2008 5:58 AM CST Value Circle
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
Interesting.

I have always felt that the sacrifice to self in giving was what gave the gift its value.

If I have 10 million and give a million it has cost me very little. If I have five dollars and give away half I will not be eating filet mignon tonight as a direct result of my giving.

If I give my time, to physically go and help with a project or something, and that time is all of the leisure time available to me that week it is more precious time than time I might give when I am off for a week.

The same commodoties have shifting values depending on the balance of needs and resources that exists.
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