All religions are based on superstition. Many of these superstitions have become codified, that is, set down in a written, time-tempered way (supposedly).
When you are picked up as an infant, and fed, talked to, and coddled in many ways, you believe that these humans who intersact with you are all-powerful. As you grow older, this dynamic stays with you, because you cannnot consciously recollect it. Therefore, at a certain age you can let go of Santa Claus, an Easter Bunney, a tooth fairy, etc.
But you never let go of the all powerful beings who could lift you into the air and their arms, who could feed you, who could keep you from crying, and provide your every need.
You can let go of Santa Clause, the Easter Bunney, etc, because they never had the hold over you that these large, strong beings, your mother and fateher, had over you. This, in your mind, becomes your god. This god does not exist, nor do any others.
gillyloves69: but please tell us what you know about the religon first please
Ritual cannibalism (catholics), suicide and martyrdom (islam, christianity, shintoism) , transubstantiation, rapture, levitation and karma (Hinduism), dead people walking (numerous), personification of animals and objects (animism), denial of existence (buddhism), etc.
Name one religion that doesn't have something weird. It would be a very short list.
gillyloves69OPlondon, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
kj12345: Ritual cannibalism (catholics), suicide and martyrdom (islam, christianity, shintoism) , transubstantiation, rapture, levitation and karma (Hinduism), dead people walking (numerous), personification of animals and objects (animism), denial of existence (buddhism), etc.
Name one religion that doesn't have something weird. It would be a very short list.
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can you please let us know why you find things unsual about these religions for people like myself that don't know much about the religions that you've just mentioned please !
can you please let us know why you find things unsual about these religions for people like myself that don't know much about the religions that you've just mentioned please !
many thanks
Hi,
I'll go through the list that I mentioned, and add one more:
Ritual cannibalism: catholic communion says "eat of my flesh and drink of my blood", the symbolic consumption of human flesh. Transubstantiation is the technical term for this.
Suicide and martyrdom: suicide bombers of islam are obvious, but don't forget the willingness of christians to die for their religion in certain wars from the crusades until World War II (but not since, interestingly), and Japan's shintoism was the origin of the kamikaze.
Rapture: the belief that a select few will be "chosen by god" and be "taken up to heaven" via spontaneous combustion (or some other method), and those remaining are either meant to "fight satan" or are "condemned to hell", whichever particular fatalist protestant religion happens to be talking.
Levitation and karma: various forms of hinduism teaches the idea that "enlightenment" will permit levitation (actual floating) and karma is the notion that some sort of synchronicity exists causing "good" where "good" is done and "evil" where "evil" is done. And let's not forget reincarnation, the notion that good people will come back as a higher life form and bad people as a lower form. (See also India's "caste system", still used to discriminate against some people despite being illegal.)
Dead people walking: christianity has this, as does judaism (golems) and vodun (a/k/a voodoo), the belief that with certain spells, the dead can rise and walk again.
Personification of animals and objects, a/k/a animism: whether it's North American tradition ideas of animal spirits, Korean traditional religions, African or other, there is belief that animals are sentient and godlike.
Denial of existence: buddhists take a solipsistic view that the real world does not exist and that experiences and reality are only impediments to enlightenment, and that reality must be denied before reality can be understood.
Worshipping "satan" as the "good guy": Freemasons worship "jabulon" (loosely translated as "our lord satan on Earth") and believe "jabulon" is the good guy while "adonay" (the christian god) is the bad guy. Many social lodges (Elks, Moose, Kinsmen, Lions, etc.) require freemasonry as part of their membership. Also, in Iraq, the Kurdish Yezidi religion believes that after "lucifer" fell, he apologized and was "back in god's graces", and they worship him as a "good" entity; Yezidi is an Abrahamic religion (like christianity, judaism and islam) but is separate from all three.
Jehovah's witness is pretty wierd.. could never understand, or would never be able to understand that religion... it seems that even if a member of your own flesh and blood or a close friend does something which displeases the congregation, the congregation would feel justified in either 'shunning' you or in the case of family not including you in spiritual matters....
I cannot understand that way of thinking nor do I accept that God would accept it as a way of being.. Jesus himself walked with thieves and sinners.. there was a clear message in that and that message was inclusion.. love and forgiveness... the new testement in particular has loads of stories which illustrate this level of 'forgiveness' as being fundamental to the Christian way..
gillyloves69OPlondon, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
Aries01: Jehovah's witness is pretty wierd.. could never understand, or would never be able to understand that religion... it seems that even if a member of your own flesh and blood or a close friend does something which displeases the congregation, the congregation would feel justified in either 'shunning' you or in the case of family not including you in spiritual matters....
I cannot understand that way of thinking nor do I accept that God would accept it as a way of being.. Jesus himself walked with thieves and sinners.. there was a clear message in that and that message was inclusion.. love and forgiveness... the new testement in particular has loads of stories which illustrate this level of 'forgiveness' as being fundamental to the Christian way..
gillyloves69: if angel fell from the sky ( or a demon came up from under the ground) ! and said to you "its your lucky day" and grant you one wish out of a choice of twenty what one would you chose ? and why ?
I wouldn't.
At the risk of sounding ridiculous, I quote from the 1970s TV jingle for the game, "Perfection":
Cause with perfection you gotta move real fast Before the pieces pop up before you put in the last And that's perfection
Even if I were willing to put aside reality and believe in bunk like wishes, I wouldn't change anything. I've screwed up a lot of things, there are things I could have done better, and I'm peeved at how other people screwed up things in my life, but I wouldn't change anything.
The only things I would want to change would mean changing other people by force, against their will (e.g. the existence of religion, absolutism, etc.) and that's not the way to do things. Ignorance uses force, education educates, and rational thinking will win in the end.
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but please tell us what you know about the religon first please