cristina: How can we constantly ask a person if they are "really, really ok?" we can't
We can make time for them. Spend time with them. Tell them occasionally how important they are to us and be glad of the things they do. My cuz was always there to help me and other people but we didn't appreciate him while we had him. I hate myself when I think about this.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
mehran_n: We can make time for them. Spend time with them. Tell them occasionally how important they are to us and be glad of the things they do. My cuz was always there to help me and other people but we didn't appreciate him while we had him. I hate myself when I think about this.
mastic55: Depression can hurt, I'm going tonight to see a friend laid out after taking her life,,,see her five days ago and she looked happy. R.I.P Donna.
I'm sorry Mastic. I hope she isn't in any more pain.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
cristina: Yes we can
But if they are acting like Donna, looking always happy, we can't intefere too much can we? It all depends on the level of intimicy, what the person is willing to give you as fair play
mehran_n: We can make time for them. Spend time with them. Tell them occasionally how important they are to us and be glad of the things they do. My cuz was always there to help me and other people but we didn't appreciate him while we had him. I hate myself when I think about this.
Hi
From my experiences with the disease I dont think your cuz would like you to hate yourself in any way. We are all at fault, when looking back thru our life, of not spending more time with someone whether they be family or friend. Fortunately not all of us have to carry your perceived guilt. Your cuz sounds like he was a hell of a guy. He like everybody else is responsible for him and him alone.
IMO he would not want you rememnering him in this way as it would cause him more pain, if he knew.
Celebrate his life, learn from it but please, please never blame yourself. Guilt can be such a wasted emotion IMO.
IMO he would want you to learn from it so you could help someone else.
cristina: But if they are acting like Donna, looking always happy, we can't intefere too much can we? It all depends on the level of intimicy, what the person is willing to give you as fair play
Your right Cris IMO.
Some people who suffer have an inablility to ask for help. In fact they will do anything to stop the symptoms showing. A lot of people use alcohol as a crutch so people will see them in a different light. Pride is such a terrible thing, in some ways, as people don't want others to know they suffer with ''mental illness'' Even in these enlightened times there is still a stigma to it, from my experience.
cristina: Why do you think there is that fear? It's not much of pride maybe but fear of being rejected...
Again we are all individual Cris, but we are talking about our deepest insecurities here. Some people are better at sharing and opening up to people than others.
Sometimes people just shy away from other people for the fear of letting them down. This can apply to friendships as well as relationships. People may not want to commit for fear of dissapointing their partner.
Some people just dont like themselves very much. This can be for a variety of reasons and is a lot more common than we might think. Take a young girl who maybe carries a few extra pounds. Society is palcing undue pressure on her to be and look the size 8 model that appears in fashion mags and tv.
Some people listen to the wrong advice.
I've heard people say to someone suffering with depression to ''Get on with it''........= Not helpful
I've also heard some people being told Ah sure you dont need those tablets. Would anyone ever say that to someone with liver disease or diabeties ? Dont think so.
But because people's brains don't produce enough seritonen they are branded with ''mental illness''
Again it's the stigma thats attached to it........
cristina: Vinny, if you have all those answers well organised in your head you are the man for all of us
And i've been rejected by nearly everybody
I've had a lot of experience in dealing with it cris..........family, support groups and so on. Just read up to try to help and listened to what people were sayin.
I hope some people understand a little bit more the pain Detente was, perhaps, going thru.
vinny1967: Again we are all individual Cris, but we are talking about our deepest insecurities here. Some people are better at sharing and opening up to people than others.
Sometimes people just shy away from other people for the fear of letting them down. This can apply to friendships as well as relationships. People may not want to commit for fear of dissapointing their partner.
Some people just dont like themselves very much. This can be for a variety of reasons and is a lot more common than we might think. Take a young girl who maybe carries a few extra pounds. Society is palcing undue pressure on her to be and look the size 8 model that appears in fashion mags and tv.
Some people listen to the wrong advice.
I've heard people say to someone suffering with depression to ''Get on with it''........= Not helpful
I've also heard some people being told Ah sure you dont need those tablets. Would anyone ever say that to someone with liver disease or diabeties ? Dont think so.
But because people's brains don't produce enough seritonen they are branded with ''mental illness''
Again it's the stigma thats attached to it........
Very well said friend
I now reach out and tell someone when I am having a hard time. And I've heard the "just deal with it" which usually causes anger. But I found the true me and learned to accept and love myself just as I am! Their is a reason I am still here and I tell myself that on a regular basis. The reason that I posted here today was so that others who may have the same thing. Can also reach out to us that do understand and will not judge. That is the only reason.....
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
Shirley49WV: Very well said friend
I now reach out and tell someone when I am having a hard time. And I've heard the "just deal with it" which usually causes anger. But I found the true me and learned to accept and love myself just as I am! Their is a reason I am still here and I tell myself that on a regular basis. The reason that I posted here today was so that others who may have the same thing. Can also reach out to us that do understand and will not judge. That is the only reason.....
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We can make time for them. Spend time with them. Tell them occasionally how important they are to us and be glad of the things they do. My cuz was always there to help me and other people but we didn't appreciate him while we had him. I hate myself when I think about this.