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Jan 12, 2009 7:35 PM CST Europe's economy contracts at rates not seen since 1930s
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Telegraph

German exports and industrial orders have both plunged at the steepest rate since modern records began and Spain's unemployment has surged above three million, capping one of the most disastrous days for Europe's economy since the Second World War.

Joaquin Almunia, the European economics commissioner, warned that the picture would turn "dramatically worse" this year. The eurozone's confidence index collapsed from 74.9 to 67.1, the lowest since Brussels started collecting the data in 1985.

"It makes truly dismal reading," said Julian Callow, Europe economist at Barclays Capital. "Industrial sentiment has never experienced such a rapid slump. There is an implosion of demand."

Spain lost almost 140,000 jobs in December, pushing unemployment to 3.1m or 13.4pc. The Labour Office said the country had shed a million in jobs in 2008 as the building boom collapsed. This is equivalent to 7m job losses in the United States.

The Labour Secretary Maravillas Rojo said she could not rule out a rise in unemployment to 4m this year. "We are in an unprecedented situation, and 2009 is going to be very difficult," she said.

Spain is now in company at last with Germany, where exports plummeted 10.6pc in November. The German economy is highly-geared to the global industrial cycle and is suddenly facing a vicious downturn as demand for machinery slumps in China, Russia, the Mid-East, and equally important as car sales crash in Italy, Spain, and Britain. The country's trade surplus has shrivelled by a third in one month.

"Industry is in free-fall," said Dirk Schumacher, from Goldman Sachs. Germany's industrial orders have plummeted 27pc year-on-year, heralding a drastic economic contraction this year. Berlin is mulling a €100bn fund to rescue companies in distress, on top of its €50bn Keynesian blitz over two years. The fiscal package includes tax cuts and infrastructure spending. Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition has backed away from plans to `tough out' the recession after a fierce criticism from German economists and industrial leaders.

Berlin is now preparing the part-nationalisation of Commerzbank by taking a 25pc stake in exchange for a €10bn infusion of capital, helping to boost the bank's capital ratio as it digests Dresdner Bank. Commerzbank shares fell 14pc. France is also drawing up plans for a fresh €10.5bn capital injection for its banks.

Jacques Cailloux, from the Royal Bank of Scotland, said the pace of contraction in Europe is now disturbingly close to levels seen in the Great Depression. The eurozone bloc shrank by 3pc in 1930, 5pc in 1931, and 4pc in 1932.

By this count, 2009 could easily match 1930. The latest data points to 3pc contraction rate since late last year, with no improvement in sight. "Even the worst case scenarios people talked about now look too optimistic. But at least the authorities have done enough to prevent the vicious downward spiral from accelerating. We've haven't seen the sort of run on bank deposits or mass bankruptices that occurred in the 1930s. That is crucial," he said.

Elga Bartsch from Morgan Stanley said the European Central Bank may have to cut rates to 1pc and let its overnight EONIA rate drop to zero. It has already expanded its balance by 55pcc in a quiet shift to emergency stimulus, but may now have to go further than it wants to head off a "deflation trap".
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Jan 12, 2009 7:38 PM CST Europe's economy contracts at rates not seen since 1930s
Indyfella
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HealthyLiving: Telegraph

German exports and industrial orders have both plunged at the steepest rate since modern records began and Spain's unemployment has surged above three million, capping one of the most disastrous days for Europe's economy since the Second World War.

Joaquin Almunia, the European economics commissioner, warned that the picture would turn "dramatically worse" this year. The eurozone's confidence index collapsed from 74.9 to 67.1, the lowest since Brussels started collecting the data in 1985.

"It makes truly dismal reading," said Julian Callow, Europe economist at Barclays Capital. "Industrial sentiment has never experienced such a rapid slump. There is an implosion of demand."

Spain lost almost 140,000 jobs in December, pushing unemployment to 3.1m or 13.4pc. The Labour Office said the country had shed a million in jobs in 2008 as the building boom collapsed. This is equivalent to 7m job losses in the United States.

The Labour Secretary Maravillas Rojo said she could not rule out a rise in unemployment to 4m this year. "We are in an unprecedented situation, and 2009 is going to be very difficult," she said.

Spain is now in company at last with Germany, where exports plummeted 10.6pc in November. The German economy is highly-geared to the global industrial cycle and is suddenly facing a vicious downturn as demand for machinery slumps in China, Russia, the Mid-East, and equally important as car sales crash in Italy, Spain, and Britain. The country's trade surplus has shrivelled by a third in one month.

"Industry is in free-fall," said Dirk Schumacher, from Goldman Sachs. Germany's industrial orders have plummeted 27pc year-on-year, heralding a drastic economic contraction this year. Berlin is mulling a €100bn fund to rescue companies in distress, on top of its €50bn Keynesian blitz over two years. The fiscal package includes tax cuts and infrastructure spending. Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition has backed away from plans to `tough out' the recession after a fierce criticism from German economists and industrial leaders.

Berlin is now preparing the part-nationalisation of Commerzbank by taking a 25pc stake in exchange for a €10bn infusion of capital, helping to boost the bank's capital ratio as it digests Dresdner Bank. Commerzbank shares fell 14pc. France is also drawing up plans for a fresh €10.5bn capital injection for its banks.

Jacques Cailloux, from the Royal Bank of Scotland, said the pace of contraction in Europe is now disturbingly close to levels seen in the Great Depression. The eurozone bloc shrank by 3pc in 1930, 5pc in 1931, and 4pc in 1932.

By this count, 2009 could easily match 1930. The latest data points to 3pc contraction rate since late last year, with no improvement in sight. "Even the worst case scenarios people talked about now look too optimistic. But at least the authorities have done enough to prevent the vicious downward spiral from accelerating. We've haven't seen the sort of run on bank deposits or mass bankruptices that occurred in the 1930s. That is crucial," he said.

Elga Bartsch from Morgan Stanley said the European Central Bank may have to cut rates to 1pc and let its overnight EONIA rate drop to zero. It has already expanded its balance by 55pcc in a quiet shift to emergency stimulus, but may now have to go further than it wants to head off a "deflation trap".


Does this mean the Danish puff-pastry industry will close down?
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Jan 12, 2009 7:38 PM CST Europe's economy contracts at rates not seen since 1930s
HealthyLiving
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I posted back in early September about the comming depression and was ridiculed and laughed at by many here at CS.

Anyone willing to admit now, that we are in a depression???
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Jan 12, 2009 7:40 PM CST Europe's economy contracts at rates not seen since 1930s
Tater
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This is not all surprising to me, guess what.... it only gets worse for you guys and us...
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Jan 12, 2009 7:41 PM CST Europe's economy contracts at rates not seen since 1930s
Tater
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HealthyLiving: I posted back in early September about the comming depression and was ridiculed and laughed at by many here at CS.

Anyone willing to admit now, that we are in a depression???


Indy and I were also saying that it would be like this.....thumbs up

ps. I just saw you are from here too...laugh
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Jan 12, 2009 7:41 PM CST Europe's economy contracts at rates not seen since 1930s
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Indyfella: Does this mean the Danish puff-pastry industry will close down?



Perhaps you will need to make your own cream puffs!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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