_banky: id also recomend this film zeitgeist moving forward its free on youtube
Will have a look at the Venus one, but the Zeitgeist one is a little tricky. Some of the information used in the film is not accurate.
Try Kymatica and Ungrip - both made by the same guys. Ungrip is more recent, about off the grid living, sovereignty and the legal system in straightforward terms. Kymatica has so much distilled information in one film that you need to watch it a few times to get all of it. Kymatica is broader, covers a few areas.
celticeyes1: Bartering is a great Idea espcially in these hard financial times, I've been exchanging my services of doing flowers for people's weddings in exchange for services for years. I got car repairs and electrical work done on my house among other things. Its a good system which I see used more in Rural areas more so than the city. I did once have a plumber offer to fix my heating free for another service I won't mention
Always try to barter goods and services when I can, it could be as simple as using a skill you possess to do someone a favour, and maybe they'll give you a dig out if you're stuck. Or growing a few vegetables in your garden and exchanging produce with neighbours cash free. Or just help out for the hell of it.
Mark Boyle, decided to try to live cash free for a year. He's a highly qualified economist, so it would have been an adjustment, to say the least.
That may be extreme, but what he did after was pretty cool. He started a website based on some of his philosophies. This website allows people to tag their location and list any skills they have that other people may find useful. You can opt to loan/lend items also if you wish. All with no exchange of money, so nothing for the bankers. The website then displays every other "freeconomist" within a 10 -25 mile radius of your home. The skills are varied, and incentives are there to encourage community spirit - something which is sadly waning in Ireland today.
This was done in Sligo a good few years ago, it was called LETS, cant even rem what that stood for but i think you paid a fee and got a cheque book or receipt book a bit like IOU's and a list of people and the services they were offering or were looking for, dont know what happened to it in the end.
filly63: This was done in Sligo a good few years ago, it was called LETS, cant even rem what that stood for but i think you paid a fee and got a cheque book or receipt book a bit like IOU's and a list of people and the services they were offering or were looking for, dont know what happened to it in the end.
That sounds kind of familiar. There's no fee for this one though. A few people on the site don't post any available skills or services. Wonder what that's about.
dantes85: That sounds kind of familiar. There's no fee for this one though. A few people on the site don't post any available skills or services. Wonder what that's about.
filly63: I just Googled LETS and its Local Exchange Trading System.
By the sound of it, the IOU system might have screwed that up a little. Takes some of the good out of it. Some things don't equate easily in value terms. Like, a lift to the shops isn't the same as a lift to the airport. And several kilos of vegetables don't compare easily with work done or a service rendered.
_banky: zeitgeist not acurate....which part? il check out kymatica
It's been a while since I watched it now.
Some of the Egyptology wasn't accurate, they mixed up some of the gods and mythology, and didn't use proper sources. Alot of the religion part is best taken with a grain of salt.
I think part of the financial section was wrong as well. There's different theories on why so many valid points would be presented alongside such sloppy research and material - my opinion is that it's simply one of the many forms of misinformation.
There's another short one to watch, definitely not for everyone. It's by Stefan Molyneux of Free Domain Radio. Only 13 minutes, paradigm shattering stuff.
checked out kymatica,pretty abstaract and no solutions offered. zeitgeist addendum and moving forward offer real solutions. not gonna get into a debate on egyptology but i found zeitgeist far more relevant.
_banky: checked out kymatica,pretty abstaract and no solutions offered. zeitgeist addendum and moving forward offer real solutions. not gonna get into a debate on egyptology but i found zeitgeist far more relevant.
Even though the information isn't accurate?
Yeah Kymatica is abstract, and the whole point is that it doesn't offer solutions within the current construct. Rather, it encourages people to reconnect with the Earth and make up their own minds about how they want to live - rather than relying on States, rulers and doctrines to do it for them.
That's part of a longer conversation though, so we may as well leave it rather than go into it here.
_banky: lol it is acurate addendum and moving forward are different films your thinking of the original
Well I haven't seen the sequels, so can't comment too much on them fairly. But unless they correct the errors of the first one in a little side section of the sequel, I'd still be sceptical of the information in the film and the true motives behind it.
The reviewers seem to have a similar take on the Zeitgeist movement films - that there's enough truth mixed in with the fiction to send people in the wrong direction and harm the liberty movement.
I don't want to criticise it too strongly if you're really into it, but there's no harm in taking out the individual points from the trilogy that you like and researching them separately. Separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were.
best advice i could give u is just watch the films and make up your own mind and stop dismissing them,1 of the biggest snake oil sales men out there is alex jones and i certainly wouldnt believe evrything he has to say without a good look,zeitgeist offers real solutions not more problems
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zeitgeist moving forward
its free on youtube
Will have a look at the Venus one, but the Zeitgeist one is a little tricky. Some of the information used in the film is not accurate.
Try Kymatica and Ungrip - both made by the same guys. Ungrip is more recent, about off the grid living, sovereignty and the legal system in straightforward terms.
Kymatica has so much distilled information in one film that you need to watch it a few times to get all of it. Kymatica is broader, covers a few areas.