It would be logically impossible for opposites to attract, since opposing personalities/tastes cannot complement each other (nice catch, Portiea, on the difference between "compliment" and "complement," by the way).
Differences, however, can exist that are not in opposition and are complementary. For example, men and women are different and (largely) complementary. An intolerant person and a tolerant person are not.
I don't mean to be, X. My point is that love is *not* unconditional, that's all. We all have any number of conditions which, if they aren't met, exclude a person as a romantic partner and/or friend.
Then I take it you would have no objection to dating a 70 year old buddy of mine who's grossly overweight, never showers, smokes and drinks as though the end of the world were imminent, and who has a zit on his forehead with the approximate dimensions of Mount Everest?
Right. I regard ultimatums *generally* as playthings of the maladapted. *However*, I can easily think of - and have personally experienced - situations where there don't appear to be any reasonable alternatives. E.g.:
"You must end your affair or we're finished."
"Either you stop drinking or we're done."
"Tear up your credit cards and promise never to put us into horrid debt again, or we're getting a divorce!"
Is the issue of smoking different from the above in principle - given that you agree the above are justified.
This was inspired by the thread where the hypothetical was posted: if someone lost thirty pounds an engagement ring would be offered.
Okay, so here's the topic: "bottom lines," "ultimatums," or...reasonable requests. How much are we entitled to ask of another person regarding changes in that person which may make them more compatible with (or approved by) you? Is it possible to reasonably make such requests/demands? Never reasonable?
What are your experiences with these kinds of "if you do this or change that I would find you acceptable" situations?
Robbie, I think some of your advice was well-intended. I've noticed over the years, however, that when people don't ask for advice they very rarely are grateful to receive. I've learned that from hard experience.
I know, and we deeply appreciate your support, Dana. She likes you a lot, too...which makes me wonder... no, I'd better perish that particular thought...
That was truly an epic understaking, Dana. But who said anything about anyone being "better" than you? I found my "special someone" before we'd even met, you know.
RE: Do opposities attract?
It would be logically impossible for opposites to attract, since opposing personalities/tastes cannot complement each other (nice catch, Portiea, on the difference between "compliment" and "complement," by the way).Differences, however, can exist that are not in opposition and are complementary. For example, men and women are different and (largely) complementary. An intolerant person and a tolerant person are not.
Jeff