Conrad, you talk about Hamas. I talk about Netanyahu. They are one and the same. Both totally without compromise to the other. Both warriors. Both wanting the anihilation of the other.
Then you have Peres. And Abbas. With these two there is a chance. Israel isn't going to give on inch of the stolen land back. We both know that. You talk about Goop. Your going to get more and more Goop as long as Netanyahu continues with his gestopo tactics.
You see, the gigs up Conrad. You can tout your hatred and one sided blind support for this brutal bunch of thugs. But I'm going to continue to cronical this pack of animals. And post each and every violation of international law they commit. Over and over and over. Eventually, slowly but surely, you'll start to recognize a pattern. Even you Conrad, will see the pattern of hate and terror. Yes Conrad. Even you.
If you read my post, I said that Hamas is not helping the Palistinian cause. Netanyahu and his party of hard liners is the cause. Over 50% of Israelis feel the government is unreasonable in their treatment of the Palistinian issue.
Israel (finally) agrees to ease the restrictions on materials into Gaza. Unfortunatly their decision does NOT allow building materials which are desparatly needed after Israel bombed them back into the stone age during oporation "Cast Lead". As a result, the other countries in the region, Syria in particular, feel the peace process has grinded to a halt. The present Israeli leadership has demonstrated that there is no chance for a just and equitable peace by it's insistance on taking ALL of Jeruselem and continued settlement expansion on land "the international community" says is not thiers. So Israel has gotten it's way again by continued "collective punishment" of the Palistinians to the point where those in the region now feel that a military action is the only recourse. This of course plays directly into the war mongers hand for she knows that war is the only way to annex even more land.
There is no question that this proposal would serve as a good starting point. And my initial challenges were meant to just "get those facts out there!" But at this point I can't see why any two groups of rational people wouldn't go along with this idea as a starting point.
I too stand corrected with respect to Jenin. After exhaustive research there seems to be a general concensus that only 57 Palistinians were confirmed killed of which about half were combatants.
There is no purpose to argue any further here. There is no "right" or "wrong". Hamas is not doing the Palistinian cause any good. The splinter groups are just feeding into the Israeli "plan" by continueing the rockets. If they all laid down their arms it wouldn't accomplish anything either. Israel would just continue the land grab.
Boarding a ship in a hostile way was wrong. Not complying with the search was wrong. The killings were wrong. The occupation is wrong.
Connie oh Connie, When are you going to admit Israel is guilty of crimes against humanity.
Just because Israel wouldn't let the United Nations or any other media in to Jenin.
DOES NOT MEAN THE MASSACRE DIDN'T HAPPEN. Are you that dillusional? Have your fevered tempestious brain gotten that consumed by the "Israelis are the "chosen" dogma that you can't disern between fact and fantasy? All you have to do is read the accounts of the slaughter.
The world believes between 500 and 600 men women and children were slaughtered.
Some accounts say as many as 3000 to 4000.
Israel says 35.
There were 38 IDF fatalities. And the world knows that Israel will slaughter 100 goy for each jew killed. So, you do the math.
This is EXACTLY what this thread is ALL ABOUT You folks think its ok to slaughter people and go about your business. Thats totally inhuman. Jews are no different than Americans or Germans, or any other "Gentile". You can't slaughter half of a refugee camp and then belittle the facts afterward.
Those nine people slaughtered occured when Israel invaded Turkey. Don't you see when they attacked and borded those vessels they were violating the "soveriegnty" of the country where that ship is registered. Don't you understand?
Alberta says 25. How about you? Not a link this time.
I know its impossible because the nature of the slaughter was so horrific the IDF refused to allow media into the hellhole for weeks after the masacre so as to bulldoze the bodies and hide the evidence.
So,...how many Palistinians? Come on, just give me a figure so I can dubunk it.
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Conrad, you talk about Hamas. I talk about Netanyahu.They are one and the same. Both totally without compromise to the other. Both warriors. Both wanting the anihilation of the other.
Then you have Peres. And Abbas. With these two there is a chance. Israel isn't going to give on inch of the stolen land back. We both know that.
You talk about Goop. Your going to get more and more Goop as long as Netanyahu continues with his gestopo tactics.
You see, the gigs up Conrad. You can tout your hatred and one sided blind support for this brutal bunch of thugs. But I'm going to continue to cronical this pack of animals. And post each and every violation of international law they commit. Over and over and over. Eventually, slowly but surely, you'll start to recognize a pattern. Even you Conrad, will see the pattern of hate and terror. Yes Conrad. Even you.