We can debate the moral and ethical motivation forever and not accomplish anything. What I would like to hear is your ideas on a solution. A Just and honorable solution.
Wish I had more time to think this reply through but I don't.
Cast lead was like shooting fish in a bucket with a BB gun.
Cast Lead was Just one incursion. Jenin was a wholesale slaughter as well.
We could go on and on about who has killed who, how many died
What I want to know is what VIABLE solution to this tragedy would you sods entertain?
Logic dictates , to me, that either land around Gaza OR the West Bank be allocated for a future Palestinian state. To have two geographical entities, however far apart, connected with a highway, Just dosn't seem feasable.
ttom and probably most of the rest of you would prefer to have them just "go away" 3.5 million people arn't going to just go away.
So I morphed a bit, I DO speak out on issues that I feel passionate about. Prehaps I should just let the forces of good and evil do battle in the celestial battlegrounds.
No nation the size of New Jersey needs 200 plus warheads. It's that simple. I've started to understand the dynamics of this whole deal.
The United States supports Israel to maintain an "outpost" to the oil rich mediteranian. AND the region.
BUT I don't see Israel as an "Partner". What "Partner" steals military secrets, from the Rossenbergs to the Pollards and PLENTY in between. Secondly I don't like seeing US soldiers dieing in defense of ANY other country. As in IRAQ, et al.
Conrad, I thought we were tight? I told you I follow Buddism. You said you wern't jewish. When did I say anything about killing jews? I didn't. Believe it or not, Albertdagoat and I are both one the same page on two critical points. Settlements and Israeli "heavy handedness". So even in the depths of dispair "there is hope".
May camel dung land on you upper lip, you sod. I never pretended to be a expert on anything you tard. The only reason I post here is to express my opinion on what I see as a classic display of "MANS INHUMANITY TO MAN
Please go take another hit off the pipe kid. You need it.
First of all my names not Kahead, and secondly I've explained the human shield thing. It's desperation. But todays rant is about Nukes. And you can't say that Might is going to keep Nuclear Warheads out of the hands of other countries or extreamist. Money talks and BS walks ok. And there's PLENTY of (oil)money out there to pull it off, you see. So yes other countries WILL HAVE NUKES. So where does that put us? Meaning you, and ME. At the mercy of OTHER PEOPLES AGENDAS. So wouldn't one think that it's time to reel them in? Maybe?
Ok Israel has 200 plus warheads. Iran wants a few, eventually Somolia will have them and so on. So tell me where this is leading. What is the logical outcome? Please, all the scholars here offer their insight.
I think it starts with the letter (Nuclear) Holocost.
There are too many Nuclear warheads in that whole region. Everyone seems to think that they will protect them from aggressors.
Again, it's hypocritical for an American to call for Nuclear Non Proliferation. We were in a jam and used them. So what is the logic? Everyone knows what is inevitably going to happen. Theres going to be a shootout. That simple. Unless something is done to reel them in. One country can't have them and not expect other countries to want to have them. And if no one is willing to give them up whats going happen? The obvious answer is eventually there will be a nuclear holocost. And THAT will be the end of the line for mankind.
Conrad, Keep it civil today. No hexs or Your going to get it, ok? I have my garlic around my neck and holy water at the ready so don't be threatining me, ok.
So Hezbolla is getting SCUDS from Syria. Of course its a big deal. But is that how things work over there? Is it a constant struggle to get a "bigger stick"?
Imagine what could be done with all that money spent on "sticks".
Desalination Plants for starters. How about a cure for cancer.
Or a good drunk and camel ride. Anything but a bigger stick don't you think?
Conrad, Keep it civil today. No hexs or Your going to get it, ok? I have my garlic around my neck and holy water at the ready so don't be threatining me, ok.
So Hezbolla is getting SCUDS from Syria. Of course its a big deal. But is that how things work over there? Is it a constant struggle to get a "bigger stick"?
Imagine what could be done with all that money spent on "sticks".
Desalination Plants for starters. How about a cure for cancer.
Or a good drunk and camel ride. Anything but a bigger stick don't you think?
Kalhed? I prefer Treeman over that. But your off the mark again Ghost.
How do you dig this stuff up? And why do you insist on tipping your hand, all the time by exposeing your methods on forums like this? Shouldn't you keep your murderous methods concealed? How in a camels butt are you going to kill more people if you blab about the latest methods the IDF uses to avoid resistance? May you step in camel dung you sod.
Your post shows again how pitifully desparate these people are. And when I read of the resorcefulness of these folks I can't help wonder what positive way all this cunning and preparation would show itself had this not been a war. Who knows.
No, I'm not a Kalhed, nor a Achmed, or Elhud, or any of those things. I'm not even a Bill! But I am saddened by all the time wasted attacking the messenger and not the message.
This is not about me. It's about injustice. All I am is third party observer that sees "something wrong" with this picture.
Why, instead of belittleing my arguement, can't anyone present the Israeli stance for me?
Sure, I see the US holding immediate talks with the Syrian envoys to challenge thier motivation for selling SCUDS to Hezbola (sp?) I don't even know what in a camels toe Hezbola IS. Is it a new kind of hair dryer? Or a breakfast cereal? I don't know? But I do know that they are another enemy of Israel. Why they hate Israel, I don't know. Do I know Israel has enemies? Yes. So I have a natural couriousity as to "why do people in this region have such a problem with Isreal. Then I read about the atorcities the IDF exacts on the Palestinians. And I do a little math. And slowly things start to add up. You see.
I have no problem with jews. I don't have problems with blacks. I was one of the white kids that was bussed IN TO the black areas during desegragation and I got along fine with everybody.
It all gets back to getting along, doesn't it? Even the "Hatfields and McCoys" eventually buried the hatchet didn't they? I know, your probably thinking who in a camels nut are the "Hatfields and McCoys". They are two families that fought with each other here in the US. They fought for years. Just about killed of the entire male population of each side, until they started to realize,..theres not many of us left, maybe we should do a rethink about this.
RE: US imposed peace deal for Israel and Palestine.
Pray for the children of the West Bank and Gaza area of Palestine and Israel