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leigh2154: Since you are responding to ever post I made while you were sleeping...why not this one emmaline?
btw, wasnt sleeping, but i do have a life away from here. i work till late
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CuspofMagic: This thread is getting to be torturing
not long now cusp
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Just a thought, if we accept AI's claim and pressure is placed on the administration to transfer him to the general population and then he is killed, the outcry will change to that of negligence. The conspiracy nuts would put it about that the US government did it in order to rid themselves of this problem.
A rock and a hard place eh?
If they keep him in solitary and relax their vigil, then he does kill himself, the same reaction can be expected.
Same rock, same hard place.
A rock and a hard place eh?
If they keep him in solitary and relax their vigil, then he does kill himself, the same reaction can be expected.
Same rock, same hard place.
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Blues63: Just a thought, if we accept AI's claim and pressure is placed on the administration to transfer him to the general population and then he is killed, the outcry will change to that of negligence. The conspiracy nuts would put it about that the US government did it in order to rid themselves of this problem.
A rock and a hard place eh?If they keep him in solitary and relax their vigil, then he does kill himself, the same reaction can be expected.
Same rock, same hard place.
A rock and a hard place eh?If they keep him in solitary and relax their vigil, then he does kill himself, the same reaction can be expected.
Same rock, same hard place.
ahem.....actually, the US government doesn't really have to be in between such a rock and a hard place specially where there is a thing called "rendition"(**wink**wink**) which is very much in the line of US 'policies'
. Rendition will help the US 'neutralize' the snake without breaking the stick
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Blues63: Just a thought, if we accept AI's claim and pressure is placed on the administration to transfer him to the general population and then he is killed, the outcry will change to that of negligence. The conspiracy nuts would put it about that the US government did it in order to rid themselves of this problem.
A rock and a hard place eh?If they keep him in solitary and relax their vigil, then he does kill himself, the same reaction can be expected.
Same rock, same hard place.
A rock and a hard place eh?If they keep him in solitary and relax their vigil, then he does kill himself, the same reaction can be expected.
Same rock, same hard place.
i'm not so sure about getting out of solitary, but lessening the hardship of his conditions maybe (i know that wont please some people, but thats just my opinion)
the problem stems from his status as a prevention of injury, when there were clear negligible terms and 3 reports stating the opposite, which averhart decided to overrule, and which some have speculated has lead to averhart being replaced as brig commander
i dont have so much a problem with his incarceration, nor as such with his solitary confinement, under certain terms, but mostly the clear breaches of classification that LC averhart has used.
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emmaline: i'm not so sure about getting out of solitary, but lessening the hardship of his conditions maybe (i know that wont please some people, but thats just my opinion)
the problem stems from his status as a prevention of injury, when there were clear negligible terms and 3 reports stating the opposite, which averhart decided to overrule, and which some have speculated has lead to averhart being replaced as brig commander
i dont have so much a problem with his incarceration, nor as such with his solitary confinement, under certain terms, but mostly the clear breaches of classification that LC averhart has used.
the problem stems from his status as a prevention of injury, when there were clear negligible terms and 3 reports stating the opposite, which averhart decided to overrule, and which some have speculated has lead to averhart being replaced as brig commander
i dont have so much a problem with his incarceration, nor as such with his solitary confinement, under certain terms, but mostly the clear breaches of classification that LC averhart has used.
Fair enough, but my point is that the commander may have been making every effort to keep this man alive. Try to put yourself in his shoes for a moment, whatever one's belief. If this man dies in custody, who will be held up as a pariah?
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BTW, I'm not condoning torture or defending anyone's actions, I'm just trying to understand. As you know, in a world of extreme views, the so-called truth often lies somewhere in the middle.
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ttom500: Are you sure Manning is being held in a military prison?
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exfaa: Is it the country that thinks its the most powerful in the world,but really full of idiots
i have no idea
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emmaline: i'm not so sure about getting out of solitary, but lessening the hardship of his conditions maybe (i know that wont please some people, but thats just my opinion)
the problem stems from his status as a prevention of injury, when there were clear negligible terms and 3 reports stating the opposite, which averhart decided to overrule, and which some have speculated has lead to averhart being replaced as brig commander
i dont have so much a problem with his incarceration, nor as such with his solitary confinement, under certain terms, but mostly the clear breaches of classification that LC averhart has used.
the problem stems from his status as a prevention of injury, when there were clear negligible terms and 3 reports stating the opposite, which averhart decided to overrule, and which some have speculated has lead to averhart being replaced as brig commander
i dont have so much a problem with his incarceration, nor as such with his solitary confinement, under certain terms, but mostly the clear breaches of classification that LC averhart has used.
emmaline, a change in command (Averhart), doesn't mean a change in conditions for Manning.....Chief Warrant Officer Barnes will make the decision within the next couple of weeks about wether to keep Manning on POI status and will also evaluate the Max Security order.
The "change" in command from Averhart to Barns was planned in October and is nothing more than routine, regular-duty rotation.It wasn't situationally driven.....
Marine officials say the the POI was placed due to Pvt. Mannings behavior at the time of his arrest. Spokesman 1st Lt. Brian Villard said Averhart was justified in placing manning on suicide watch order..............
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Apparently it was an "astonishing security lapse" which allowed Manning to copy these documents so whats happened to the people who allowed this "astonishing" lapse to happen - forgive me for not readin the whole thread....
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trish123: Apparently it was an "astonishing security lapse" which allowed Manning to copy these documents so whats happened to the people who allowed this "astonishing" lapse to happen - forgive me for not readin the whole thread....
bingo! if i remember it correctly, trish, i brought up the very same point in highlight when we were all talking about wikileak and Mr. julius assanage
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ReadyToTryAgain: I just saw him in the NFL Pro Bowl.....he doesn't look like a bad person, honestly
Neither did John Wayne Gacy!
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trish123: Apparently it was an "astonishing security lapse" which allowed Manning to copy these documents so whats happened to the people who allowed this "astonishing" lapse to happen - forgive me for not readin the whole thread....
Trish......not really, Pvt. Manning was an Intelligence Officer...he took a military Oath to defend his country...he had access to the Documents...the only mistake was in believing that Manning was loyal to his Country and to the Oath he took at the time of his enlistment....I am sure, in the future, the access Manning was given will be tightened up considerably and security measures and guidelines will be, (have been) placed to insure this type of breach will not happen again......if you think military operation is a "perfect world", you are being niave and foolish.....
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mnowsa: bingo! if i remember it correctly, trish, i brought up the very same point in highlight when we were all talking about wikileak and Mr. julius assanage
They are just totally put out cos a/ they dont want the public knowing any of this stuff and b/ if they arrest further up the line even more dirty washing will be exposed - they may have arrested further up the line for all i know by now but it was worth asking the question anyway - no doubt the usual suspects will be here any time now trying to shout me down and ridicule me - let em try - i aint shutting up
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Torture! Try being married!
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time4fun4u: Torture! Try being married!
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