i see a lot of wise ladies here, this Q is for them ONLY. cause most men are jerks. after dating for over a year it looks to me that there is a middle ground between friendship and romance that i cant get past with any ladies. they STOP at the end of friendship. i now have 5 ladies as reg friends. and this is wanderful. iam honered to have them as friends. BUT i want romance. and i DONT mean sex.