First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, {the Point OF CLOVIS} Not From Asia Over Bering Strait Land-ice Bridge, New Research Suggests (July 17, 2008) — Research by a Valparaiso University geography professor and his students on the creation of Kankakee Sand Islands of Northwest Indiana is lending support to evidence that the first humans to settle the Americas came from Europe, a discovery that overturns decades of classroom lessons that nomadic tribes from Asia crossed a Bering Strait land-ice bridge. Valparaiso is a member of the Council on Undergraduate Research.
Dr. Ron Janke began studying the origins of the Kankakee Sand Islands – a series of hundreds of small, moon-shaped dunes that stretch from the southern tips of Lake and Porter counties in Northwest Indiana into northeastern Illinois – about 12 years ago. Over the past few years, approximately a dozen Valparaiso undergraduates have worked with Dr. Janke to create the first detailed maps of the Kankakee Sand Islands, study their composition and survey wildlife and plants inhabiting the islands. Based upon the long-held belief that most of the upper Midwest was covered by a vast ice sheet up until about 10,000 years ago, Dr. Janke said he and other scientists surmised the Kankakee Sand Islands were created by sand in meltwater from the receding glacier. That belief was challenged, however, when he and his students discovered a year and a half ago that the islands were composed of sand that had come from Lake Michigan – something that should have been impossible with the Valparaiso Moraine standing between the lake and the Kankakee Sand Islands.
The answer that came back – the Kankakee Sand Islands were born between 14,500 and 15,000 years ago from Lake Michigan sand – was startling. “We thought the area was completely covered by ice at that time,” Dr. Janke said. “That was a really earth-shattering result for us.” Yet it also supports research showing that North American Clovis points – a particular type of arrowhead that represents the oldest manmade object on the continent –identically match arrowheads found in Europe and made by humans at approximately the same time. And just within the last year, new research has provided strong evidence that a large meteorite struck the ice sheet covering North American and melted much of the ice shortly before the formation of the Kankakee Sand Islands. “Our research at Valparaiso supports this other recent research because it indicates there wasn’t a massive ice sheet covering North America that would have allowed tribes to cross over from Asia via a Bering Strait land-ice bridge,” Dr. Janke said.
At one time, approximately 1,200 of the islands stretched out in a series of curved bands north and and south of the Kankakee River that are separated by a few miles and mirror the southern tip of Lake Michigan. Though many were destroyed by human settlement, about 700 still exist today. Dr. Janke and his students also have been active in the Woodland Savanna Land Conservancy, an organization working to protect the Kankakee Sand Islands. Scott Osthus, a recent graduate who worked with Dr. Janke to map the Kankakee Sand Islands and support their preservation, enjoyed being involved in the research effort. “During my four years at Valparaiso, I saw how interesting and significant the Kankakee Sand Islands landscape is,” Osthus said. “I want to see this area preserved because it is so historically significant.”
“The Kankakee Sand Islands are archaeologically significant, with numerous Native American artifacts and burial grounds still present in the surviving islands, and they provide crucial habitat for native wildlife and plant species,” Dr. Janke said. “I’m hopefully the sand islands can be protected so we can continue to learn about and appreciate them.”
nothernstar: I was told in School the rican Indians, North, South & Central. wher Here FIRST!
You're absolutely correct. It is the context you are confused with as supposedly, Columbus was the guy who connected the Americas with the rest of the world which was known. The original peoples of North and South America had no knowledge of a world outside their own individual communities and, in the case of the Myans and Incas, their larger, yet still smaller than many others, empires.
A case in point is the Viking landings in North America. While proven they landed and attempted colonization long before Columbus, they didn't add to the overall knowledge base of western civilization at the time, hence, the discovery and commercialization of same was swept away by history.
Now, if, on the other hand, the aboriginals of North and South America were all connected with one another, were aware of each others boundaries, had a central or common knowledge base as well as had a central means of negotiating with one another and set sail for Europe to discover an inferior and less technological society that they conquered via some means be it intellectual, occupation or economic then it would have been vice versa.
Mar 19, 2009 12:36 AM CST HOW was Here FIRST? The INDIANS Or SPAñRDS? IN North America.
JamesBragintonPalm Desert, California USA179 Posts
JamesBragintonPalm Desert, California USA179 posts
First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, {the Point OF CLOVIS} Not From Asia Over Bering Strait Land-ice Bridge, New Research Suggests (July 17, 2008) — Research by a Valparaiso University geography professor and his students on the creation of Kankakee Sand Islands of Northwest Indiana is lending support to evidence that the first humans to settle the Americas came from Europe, a discovery that overturns decades of classroom lessons that nomadic tribes from Asia crossed a Bering Strait land-ice bridge. Valparaiso is a member of the Council on Undergraduate Research.
Dr. Ron Janke began studying the origins of the Kankakee Sand Islands – a series of hundreds of small, moon-shaped dunes that stretch from the southern tips of Lake and Porter counties in Northwest Indiana into northeastern Illinois – about 12 years ago. Over the past few years, approximately a dozen Valparaiso undergraduates have worked with Dr. Janke to create the first detailed maps of the Kankakee Sand Islands, study their composition and survey wildlife and plants inhabiting the islands. Based upon the long-held belief that most of the upper Midwest was covered by a vast ice sheet up until about 10,000 years ago, Dr. Janke said he and other scientists surmised the Kankakee Sand Islands were created by sand in meltwater from the receding glacier.
Sorry,,,but I believe u are a bit brainwashed as to who were the
first people in america and south america. Athropologists and
archaeologists found out already that european tribes came over
during the last ice. They used the huge icecap. Many caucasian
skulls have been found dating back to 14,000 to 11,000 years
ago. U can find this info all over the net. Anyways, the
indians came over around 9,000 years ago. Indian skulls are
quite different that the european skulls of the tribes. Carbon
dating, dna analysises have proven that white man was here
first. They also have recently found that indians in america
have traces of european dna in them. They intermarried too.
Mar 19, 2009 12:37 AM CST HOW was Here FIRST? The INDIANS Or SPAñRDS? IN North America.
JamesBragintonPalm Desert, California USA179 Posts
JamesBragintonPalm Desert, California USA179 posts
JamesBraginton: First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, {the Point OF CLOVIS} Not From Asia Over Bering Strait Land-ice Bridge, New Research Suggests (July 17, 2008) — Research by a Valparaiso University geography professor and his students on the creation of Kankakee Sand Islands of Northwest Indiana is lending support to evidence that the first humans to settle the Americas came from Europe, a discovery that overturns decades of classroom lessons that nomadic tribes from Asia crossed a Bering Strait land-ice bridge. Valparaiso is a member of the Council on Undergraduate Research.
Dr. Ron Janke began studying the origins of the Kankakee Sand Islands – a series of hundreds of small, moon-shaped dunes that stretch from the southern tips of Lake and Porter counties in Northwest Indiana into northeastern Illinois – about 12 years ago. Over the past few years, approximately a dozen Valparaiso undergraduates have worked with Dr. Janke to create the first detailed maps of the Kankakee Sand Islands, study their composition and survey wildlife and plants inhabiting the islands. Based upon the long-held belief that most of the upper Midwest was covered by a vast ice sheet up until about 10,000 years ago, Dr. Janke said he and other scientists surmised the Kankakee Sand Islands were created by sand in meltwater from the receding glacier. Sorry,,,but I believe u are a bit brainwashed as to who were the
first people in america and south america. Athropologists and
archaeologists found out already that european tribes came over
during the last ice. They used the huge icecap. Many caucasian
skulls have been found dating back to 14,000 to 11,000 years
ago. U can find this info all over the net. Anyways, the
indians came over around 9,000 years ago. Indian skulls are
quite different that the european skulls of the tribes. Carbon
dating, dna analysises have proven that white man was here
first. They also have recently found that indians in america
have traces of european dna in them. They intermarried too.
Think about that for a while.
That was intended for the other scientists ,,not u,,,sorry
JamesBraginton: First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, {the Point OF CLOVIS} Not From Asia Over Bering Strait Land-ice Bridge, New Research Suggests
Believe it or not, from some people I've met here, I think they may be direct descendants of those guys. Maybe even recently unfrozen as their beers seem to be cold all the time.
Drewski: You're absolutely correct. It is the context you are confused with as supposedly, Columbus was the guy who connected the Americas with the rest of the world which was known. The original peoples of North and South America had no knowledge of a world outside their own individual communities and, in the case of the Myans and Incas, their larger, yet still smaller than many others, empires.
A case in point is the Viking landings in North America. While proven they landed and attempted colonization long before Columbus, they didn't add to the overall knowledge base of western civilization at the time, hence, the discovery and commercialization of same was swept away by history.
Now, if, on the other hand, the aboriginals of North and South America were all connected with one another, were aware of each others boundaries, had a central or common knowledge base as well as had a central means of negotiating with one another and set sail for Europe to discover an inferior and less technological society that they conquered via some means be it intellectual, occupation or economic then it would have been vice versa.
No, I`m Not Sir, No Room to Mention. was long as it was MAX.
Yes I know The Italiano Hada nothinga to due witha thataa!
Yes I Know the Real Story Of the ((300)) vs 800,000 worry Indians.
Will all know the wher Called Conquistadores!
Now What Wher they I`ll Gladly give U a Heads-UP.
Ther one of the Oldest Military Regiments 1 By fare.??????
You don`t Know how the Conquistadores Scuttle 3 Ships. had 300 Men. And took on the Empire, That's how it`s Classified
Built A Fort And Started Fighting, The Indian Empire!
First Ther, 1st SPN Marine CORPS! The Concestadors
476yr Tradition. Till present. they Dress Like The US Corps,
Haw do you Think US Marine CORPS Was Hatched! God Bless Them!
I was Attached my Forces And served with the US Corps!
They are My Sisters and Brothers in arms,. And given them the Respect they Earned, Wellll I think So, And I`LL Always Make Sure The US Corps Get Thers! Amane.
rodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands3,401 posts
And the greeks were first in turkey and the jews were first in israel etc.Whats the point of this thread?To prove its ok killing another race?To prove its never been the land of the indians?
rodolpho: And the greeks were first in turkey and the jews were first in israel etc.Whats the point of this thread?To prove its ok killing another race?To prove its never been the land of the indians?
OK I play. First This race was ther before all. Exterminated.
The Purpose Of this Thread, Was to Illustrate that they Existed.
Example I Took The Greeks And 5,000yrs ago I Extremanted them ALL! With OUT a Trace. Claim THER Land As MINE. So Greece IS Mine. And then Claim it as yours! Is That righT?????
All Land Treaties Are Based On all ONE SOLE Frase OF Proof They Always Tell US They Wher Here FIRST! Ther Land, Nobody Live In North America When We Arrived! ((((((HOG WASH)))))) The Biggest Cover-UP, They LIE.
So In white Mans Court Of Law. Theclames are that they were here FIRST! Get IT. This will Be In the History Books IN Stone.
Yes the basques Extend Into France And Spain. But the Have Spanish DNA. and thats Not For debate.
Yes the are from A defernt Region, But NOT Race, I`m sure All Basque would say NO. we are all Same. around that area. from same Origins The Clovis People.
But Yes They Simpled Fallowed Ice, as It Retreated.
Now. While The ice was ther.
20,000++++++ they all lived In ,,, Southern Spain,
Italia, And Greece, Check It`s in the books And Gooogle.
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(July 17, 2008) — Research by a Valparaiso University geography professor and his students on the creation of Kankakee Sand Islands of Northwest Indiana is lending support to evidence that the first humans to settle the Americas came from Europe, a discovery that overturns decades of classroom lessons that nomadic tribes from Asia crossed a Bering Strait land-ice bridge. Valparaiso is a member of the Council on Undergraduate Research.
Dr. Ron Janke began studying the origins of the Kankakee Sand Islands – a series of hundreds of small, moon-shaped dunes that stretch from the southern tips of Lake and Porter counties in Northwest Indiana into northeastern Illinois – about 12 years ago. Over the past few years, approximately a dozen Valparaiso undergraduates have worked with Dr. Janke to create the first detailed maps of the Kankakee Sand Islands, study their composition and survey wildlife and plants inhabiting the islands.
Based upon the long-held belief that most of the upper Midwest was covered by a vast ice sheet up until about 10,000 years ago, Dr. Janke said he and other scientists surmised the Kankakee Sand Islands were created by sand in meltwater from the receding glacier.
That belief was challenged, however, when he and his students discovered a year and a half ago that the islands were composed of sand that had come from Lake Michigan – something that should have been impossible with the Valparaiso Moraine standing between the lake and the Kankakee Sand Islands.
The answer that came back – the Kankakee Sand Islands were born between 14,500 and 15,000 years ago from Lake Michigan sand – was startling.
“We thought the area was completely covered by ice at that time,” Dr. Janke said. “That was a really earth-shattering result for us.”
Yet it also supports research showing that North American Clovis points – a particular type of arrowhead that represents the oldest manmade object on the continent –identically match arrowheads found in Europe and made by humans at approximately the same time. And just within the last year, new research has provided strong evidence that a large meteorite struck the ice sheet covering North American and melted much of the ice shortly before the formation of the Kankakee Sand Islands.
“Our research at Valparaiso supports this other recent research because it indicates there wasn’t a massive ice sheet covering North America that would have allowed tribes to cross over from Asia via a Bering Strait land-ice bridge,” Dr. Janke said.
At one time, approximately 1,200 of the islands stretched out in a series of curved bands north and and south of the Kankakee River that are separated by a few miles and mirror the southern tip of Lake Michigan. Though many were destroyed by human settlement, about 700 still exist today.
Dr. Janke and his students also have been active in the Woodland Savanna Land Conservancy, an organization working to protect the Kankakee Sand Islands.
Scott Osthus, a recent graduate who worked with Dr. Janke to map the Kankakee Sand Islands and support their preservation, enjoyed being involved in the research effort.
“During my four years at Valparaiso, I saw how interesting and significant the Kankakee Sand Islands landscape is,” Osthus said. “I want to see this area preserved because it is so historically significant.”
“The Kankakee Sand Islands are archaeologically significant, with numerous Native American artifacts and burial grounds still present in the surviving islands, and they provide crucial habitat for native wildlife and plant species,” Dr. Janke said. “I’m hopefully the sand islands can be protected so we can continue to learn about and appreciate them.”