Need An Outside View (17)

Oct 1, 2009 2:14 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099
Logan3099Logan3099Wexford, Ireland3 Threads 14 Posts
Hi all,
last nite a friend called over with a problem, hes seeing this girl (well when i say seeing i mean hes known her since last december and they have been on/off up to now) and he says hes madly head over heels with her.

Now shes in the middle of a divorce around 6 years older(not thats thats a problem)and 2 kids and hes never been married and has one kid, he says he knows shes mad about him too but shes been burned with whole marrrage/divorce thing and one other serious relationship and just wants to stay single, but on the other hand they spend loads of time together and usually kiss and cuddle and end up sleeping together and the next day shes says that they shouldnt do any of it because they are just friends.

Now hes asked me for advice on it cause i was in a similar situation before but i didnt really deal with it all to well myself where it came to a point where i just cut all contact, and where it hurt to do that it was easier than all the yoyoing back and forth we were doing, so i guess that was right for me and i told him that.

But i was wondering what other advice there could be out there for him from other peoples point of view so if anyone has any ideas, opinions, experience, or advice i would love to hear about it and maybe relay some of it to him.

Thanks all for reading and replying (if you choose to do so)
Logan
Oct 1, 2009 2:19 PM CST Need An Outside View
give her time and space at the moment she is all over the place
she probally sees your friend as a crutch and a ego boost after divorce thats not to say shes deliberately using him just human nature
tell your friend to step back be a friend and only that if possible 6 months down the line if they both feel same way then its time to think of dating
Oct 1, 2009 2:22 PM CST Need An Outside View
Twittwoo
TwittwooTwittwooWexford, Ireland26 Threads 217 Posts
If asked for advice I'd tell your friend he is being used as an emotional crutch and that if they are mad about each other then state it put it out in the open and deal with it or else just stick to being friends or like you did and cut contact. He is giving her all the things she likes without being demanding and she is taking advantage of that fact so he needs to tell her to fish or cut bait to be honest or else she will break his heart unfortunately. JMO hope he finds some peace of mind
xx

dunno
Oct 1, 2009 2:22 PM CST Need An Outside View
LusciousLibra
LusciousLibraLusciousLibraTramore, Waterford Ireland28 Threads 2 Polls 1,870 Posts
tallaght_guy: give her time and space at the moment she is all over the place
she probally sees your friend as a crutch and a ego boost after divorce thats not to say shes deliberately using him just human nature
tell your friend to step back be a friend and only that if possible 6 months down the line if they both feel same way then its time to think of dating


Sounds like good advice...

My stuff is very like that girls at the mo. She wont want anything too heavy, but will want the creature comforts that a warm body can provide.
Oct 1, 2009 2:25 PM CST Need An Outside View
Mmmmmmm well i wud agree with Rob, i think you need time before you get involved with some 1 else! dunno

confused This whole friends bit is puzzling me ! wud it be a case of he likes her more than she actually likes him dunno
Oct 1, 2009 2:29 PM CST Need An Outside View
jonathan_heart
jonathan_heartjonathan_heartdublin, Dublin Ireland60 Threads 8 Polls 2,108 Posts
Sounds to me like she's been using him as a crutch through what is always an emotional time (a divorce). I saw the same thing first hand with a friend, she kept on telling herself it was love when on the outside friends could see what was happening and warned her about it. But it's very hard to persuade a person when they're in that position. Emotions can be very intense
Oct 1, 2009 2:31 PM CST Need An Outside View
Twittwoo
TwittwooTwittwooWexford, Ireland26 Threads 217 Posts
nitak: Mmmmmmm well i wud agree with Rob, i think you need time before you get involved with some 1 else!

This whole friends bit is puzzling me ! wud it be a case of he likes her more than she actually likes him


I agree with Nitak it seems as though he likes her more than she likes him or maybe he has thought about it a little more than she has given her situation.??
Oct 1, 2009 2:39 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099
Logan3099Logan3099Wexford, Ireland3 Threads 14 Posts
Tallaght.....thanks for the good advice and a good idea applause
twittwoo..... to be honest i think the heartbreak has already happened which is sad really cause that can be very bad for someone to go thru and bounce back from fully i know (or think anyway lol) but thanks for your opinion on it cheers
Libra...... it can take time for the dust to settle from something like divorce and can as i said before change people sometimes for good sometimes for bad when my last serious relationship ended it took me nearly 2 years to bounce back and start dating again and tbh i still find it a bit hard frustrated
nitak...... no i think shes as much into him as he is with her when they are out with us they look great together their attension and focus seems to be completely directed at each other but i could be wrong i am a guy lol
Oct 1, 2009 2:42 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099: Tallaght.....thanks for the good advice and a good idea
twittwoo..... to be honest i think the heartbreak has already happened which is sad really cause that can be very bad for someone to go thru and bounce back from fully i know (or think anyway lol) but thanks for your opinion on it
Libra...... it can take time for the dust to settle from something like divorce and can as i said before change people sometimes for good sometimes for bad when my last serious relationship ended it took me nearly 2 years to bounce back and start dating again and tbh i still find it a bit hard
nitak...... no i think shes as much into him as he is with her when they are out with us they look great together their attension and focus seems to be completely directed at each other but i could be wrong i am a guy lol



laugh laugh laugh Well yes you could! laugh laugh

Well its a hard 1 after sleeping 2gether, How can ya be just friends dunno

daydream I wonder is she testing him confused
Oct 1, 2009 2:43 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099
Logan3099Logan3099Wexford, Ireland3 Threads 14 Posts
jonathan...... you have a point it can be very one sided nd since last nite ive been asking other friends and it seems like they all see thats the 2 of them r good together and if she does break his heart she wouldnt do it on purpose id say (hopefully)
Oct 1, 2009 2:46 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099
Logan3099Logan3099Wexford, Ireland3 Threads 14 Posts
nitak: Well yes you could!

Well its a hard 1 after sleeping 2gether, How can ya be just friends

I wonder is she testing him




Im not sure on the testing part but im very sure the whole sleeping together part might not be helping the whole situation and if shes just not ready to let him/anyone in yet its only confusing the two of them me thinks
Oct 1, 2009 2:51 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099: Im not sure on the testing part but im very sure the whole sleeping together part might not be helping the whole situation and if shes just not ready to let him/anyone in yet its only confusing the two of them me thinks


Oh to be a mind reader! grin

Well its a bit contradictory, cause obviously if she is sleeping with him, and from wot u say she likes him! She may be feeling a bit vunerable and is looking for reassurance, that he has real feelings for her? dunno dunno
Oct 1, 2009 2:58 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099
Logan3099Logan3099Wexford, Ireland3 Threads 14 Posts
nitak: Oh to be a mind reader!

Well its a bit contradictory, cause obviously if she is sleeping with him, and from wot u say she likes him! She may be feeling a bit vunerable and is looking for reassurance, that he has real feelings for her?




and ive been training so hard to be a mind reader doh

the fact that hes been there for her the whole way thru everything shes gone thru in the last 10 months(or so he says) would that not be enough to show he has real feelings for her?
JMO by the way lol
Oct 1, 2009 3:02 PM CST Need An Outside View
navbabe
navbabenavbabenavan, Meath Ireland41 Threads 2 Polls 2,800 Posts
nitak: Well yes you could!

Well its a hard 1 after sleeping 2gether, How can ya be just friends

I wonder is she testing him


jmo.. but i dont think she is testing him...i think she afraid to get close to anyone again...i do think by the sounds of it that she's really into him...maybe in time she will see that he's not out to hurt her but it will prob take a while its not an easy thing to get over a divorce or separation...you feel like your judgement isn't as good as you thought coz you married that guy/girl for life...she prob doesnt know what direction she wants her life to go in yet....give her time and dont rush her
Oct 1, 2009 3:04 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099: and ive been training so hard to be a mind reader

the fact that hes been there for her the whole way thru everything shes gone thru in the last 10 months(or so he says) would that not be enough to show he has real feelings for her?
JMO by the way lol


laugh Well yes you wud think, and it probably wud be for many women however .....

some women especially going through stuff need to be told and reminded often jmo laugh

I think they need to sit down 2 gether and be honest with each other thumbs up
Oct 1, 2009 4:10 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099
Logan3099Logan3099Wexford, Ireland3 Threads 14 Posts
nitak: Well yes you wud think, and it probably wud be for many women however .....

some women especially going through stuff need to be told and reminded often jmo

I think they need to sit down 2 gether and be honest with each other




lol this has helped me give him advice and a diffrent view so far anyway its up to him to listen take it in and maybe act on some of it....

now if i could just sort myself out so easily lol

thanks all for your help and advice

Logan
Oct 1, 2009 4:23 PM CST Need An Outside View
Logan3099: lol this has helped me give him advice and a diffrent view so far anyway its up to him to listen take it in and maybe act on some of it....

now if i could just sort myself out so easily lol

thanks all for your help and advice

Logan



thumbs up sometimes you need to take ur own advice grin
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