Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover! ( Archived) (28)

Dec 9, 2009 9:15 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
dillinger
dillingerdillingersexxay town, Fife, Scotland UK14 Threads 522 Posts
well, there really is money. If you went down to your bank right now, you'd find that most of the money they had was not in the form of dollar bills, but rather in the form of securities, like deposits, investments, shares, and other things of value. Actually paper money is only a small part of the money supply in the world.

A government can print as much money as it wants to - but what happens if they print money that they don't have anything of value to exchange it for is that the money becomes worthless - this is what happened when the Confederate States just printed money after their reserves of gold and silver ran out, and what happened in Germany in the 1920s - you had to have a shopping bag full of bills to buy a loaf of bread - this is called "Hyperinflation".

To avoid having this happen, governments closely regulate the supply of money. In the USA they do this by the Federal Reserve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve) - The Federal Reserve sets the prime rate of loans - how much interest you can loan money out for. Also, it makes sure that banks have enough reserves to cover their accounts, and monitors the way money is transfered between banks and other financial institutions, including exchanges of money from one country's currency to another.
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Dec 9, 2009 9:15 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
bohdiprana: Just what does the previous owner get? Unless he paid cash, he has likely paid two to three times what it was worth in mortgage "interest" payments alone, just like you will.

If he paid twice as much already, what he gets out of it isn't ever going to meet what he really paid in principal and interest. Trouble is we tend to ignore all that we paid in interest and only compare the original cost we paid against the payout we got. Somehow that looks better to us. Silly humans.

There's a huge difference between money and wealth. Wealth doesn't have to concern itself with paying interest, it concerns itself with receiving interest.


Compound interest etc etc wasn't the issue here, my point was.....

I borrow money from a bank to buy a house. The bank then passes that money over to the house seller. Whether that is in the form of a suit case full of cash, a cheque or fund transfer, that money is now tangible and in the hands of the seller. It is not on the banks asset sheet anymore, it has been physically paid over and Mr.Seller can go and buy 10 sports cars with it or whatever. It is of no concern if he then owes that to another bank or person.

Forget the interest etc that I will now owe the bank, you said the money doesn't exist, I am saying it must.

Speculation exists and alot of people gamble and trade on that intangible market. Potential gains are boasted and borrowed on as security, Ha,Ha nothing tangilbe needed anymore by the bankers. It's very easy for them to take a gamble on you when ( without real security ) they know the governent won't let them fail or collapse when the speculation does not become a reality.

Ruthless, greedy, imoral, scum bag bakers IMO.
And what stupid, incompitant watchdogs and governments we have.
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Dec 9, 2009 9:40 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Locolynch: The Breakdown of Mankind’s Natural Order will be implemented by the EPA’s declaration that CO2 is responsible for Global Warming. The Copenhagen Treaty will allow eugenicists to implement & enforce policies which would reduce CO2 emissions on a world wild scale. Such policies would begin the de-industrialization process of developed nations around the planet. Ultimately, the U.S. would be a primary target for termination as its sovereignty & national identity is merged with the UN’s. Regardless of whether or not the treaty fails or is ratified in the senate Obama has been instructed to sign it. The carbon tax which will be levied against every man, woman, & child in the U.S. will be used to finance this global takeover. See Alex Jones: Secret Copenhagen Treaty Documents Leaked


Big changes costs big money. No country can single-handedly afford to lead this anymore, apart from China but they are busy on the catch up and natural assent. Accept it, and unite in working together globally is the only way to make the radical changes needed in alternative power generation ( solar, wind, wave ).

Climate change is happening, it is a fact. The arguments to whether it is man made (Co2) or it is a natural process can wait. Oil, gas and coal will run out soon. Stocks will replenish again but not for millions of years. Raise the money now and get on with fixing it.
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Dec 9, 2009 10:18 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
Locolynch
LocolynchLocolynchclearwater, Florida USA14 Threads 238 Posts
Dillinger, you would do well to read The Creature from Jekyll Isand. You can read it for free online, by G. Edward Griffin.
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Dec 9, 2009 10:28 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
RDM59: Compound interest etc etc wasn't the issue here, my point was.....

I borrow money from a bank to buy a house. The bank then passes that money over to the house seller. Whether that is in the form of a suit case full of cash, a cheque or fund transfer, that money is now tangible and in the hands of the seller. It is not on the banks asset sheet anymore, it has been physically paid over and Mr.Seller can go and buy 10 sports cars with it or whatever. It is of no concern if he then owes that to another bank or person.

Forget the interest etc that I will now owe the bank, you said the money doesn't exist, I am saying it must.

Speculation exists and alot of people gamble and trade on that intangible market. Potential gains are boasted and borrowed on as security, Ha,Ha nothing tangilbe needed anymore by the bankers. It's very easy for them to take a gamble on you when ( without real security ) they know the governent won't let them fail or collapse when the speculation does not become a reality.

Ruthless, greedy, imoral, scum bag bakers IMO.
And what stupid, incompitant watchdogs and governments we have.


You obviously didn't watch the video. Its being printed as the Fed desires. Then they charge interest on money they just made up. Where does the interest come from when the original money is made up?

Really watch the video because theres not enough magic tricks in the world to make money look real.
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Dec 9, 2009 10:33 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
RDM59: Big changes costs big money. No country can single-handedly afford to lead this anymore, apart from China but they are busy on the catch up and natural assent. Accept it, and unite in working together globally is the only way to make the radical changes needed in alternative power generation ( solar, wind, wave ).

Climate change is happening, it is a fact. The arguments to whether it is man made (Co2) or it is a natural process can wait. Oil, gas and coal will run out soon. Stocks will replenish again but not for millions of years. Raise the money now and get on with fixing it.


Again you haven't watched the videos or digested anything being said here. There is in fact galactic warming going on, so it isn't CO2 or carbon footprint or any of the other scare tactics. Its all psychobabble oppression brought to you by ... the bilderburgs.

Solar, wind and wave technologies as well as hydrogen are costly and largely ineffective, compared to zero point energy. grin
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Dec 9, 2009 10:45 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
Locolynch
LocolynchLocolynchclearwater, Florida USA14 Threads 238 Posts
The fact is, Carbon Dioxide is an essential Ingredient which makes up the Recipe we call life, other wise know as CO2, lol. Plants love Co2. smitten
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Dec 9, 2009 10:53 PM CST Carbon Tax Spells Global Takeover!
Locolynch
LocolynchLocolynchclearwater, Florida USA14 Threads 238 Posts
I can hear the sheeple saying, "Oh my God dioxide sounds pisonous. Yes, Obama, please get rid of it! It's just so scary. It has to be killing us. Please, please help us rid the planet of this horrendous toxic waste," lmaofrustrated
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