Proof of bin ladins death (120)

May 3, 2011 9:49 PM CST Proof of bin ladins death
Swissblueeyes
SwissblueeyesSwissblueeyesa lake, Michigan USA13 Threads 3,371 Posts
Hi to all the Irish people in this forum..I am only posting this to show proof of Bin laden death after another cs member told me about all the bashing the U.S government received..I have a link that proves the Pakistan government has held Bin Ladens wife and children who witnessed his death..Here it is

It totally saddens me to read all the bashings in any forums..I am from a European family who moved to the states and I was born in the U.S..We have millions of Irish immigrants who live here, some I have made friends with, and I personally dont understand why anyone would hate a country where they have possible relatives living in?
Anyways, I wont post another thread in this forum after this..I only wanted to show the proof of Pakistans holding the family and the facts..Obviously Obama is not lying about this and I seriously doubt Pakistan is lying about holding Bin Ladens family either..Peace to all and no I dont cheer the death of Bin Laden..I only hope the world will become a safer place for ALL of us to live in some day..cheers
May 4, 2011 1:30 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
Swissblueeyes: Hi to all the Irish people in this forum..I am only posting this to show proof of Bin laden death after another cs member told me about all the bashing the U.S government received..I have a link that proves the Pakistan government has held Bin Ladens wife and children who witnessed his death..Here it is

It totally saddens me to read all the bashings in any forums..I am from a European family who moved to the states and I was born in the U.S..We have millions of Irish immigrants who live here, some I have made friends with, and I personally dont understand why anyone would hate a country where they have possible relatives living in?
Anyways, I wont post another thread in this forum after this..I only wanted to show the proof of Pakistans holding the family and the facts..Obviously Obama is not lying about this and I seriously doubt Pakistan is lying about holding Bin Ladens family either..Peace to all and no I dont cheer the death of Bin Laden..I only hope the world will become a safer place for ALL of us to live in some day..


It's not about hating America. I don't hate America. Now, I don't particularly like America and I don't want to live there, other than maybe an odd trip to visit relatives or friends, but I don't hate it.

What people hate is US foreign policy, which, since the death of FDR, has been based on imperialist aggression and trying to control the world.

They helped to instil many dictators in the past and while they may have captured Saddam and killed Osama, don't forget they also armed them to the teeth.

I still don't believe Osama was much of a threat to the world, he seems to me to have been little more than an angry loner who came out with ridiculous soundbytes/ Will murdering him, make the world safer? Well, as much as I don't believe he was the military mastermind the US government say he was, He obviously had some support so I would say retalliation is inevitable, though on what scale is another matter entirely.

You have a president who put you and your fellow citizens at risk in order to make short term political gains. Does that make you proud? Seriously?
May 4, 2011 2:12 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
Swissblueeyes: Hi to all the Irish people in this forum..I am only posting this to show proof of Bin laden death after another cs member told me about all the bashing the U.S government received..I have a link that proves the Pakistan government has held Bin Ladens wife and children who witnessed his death..Here it is

It totally saddens me to read all the bashings in any forums..I am from a European family who moved to the states and I was born in the U.S..We have millions of Irish immigrants who live here, some I have made friends with, and I personally dont understand why anyone would hate a country where they have possible relatives living in?
Anyways, I wont post another thread in this forum after this..I only wanted to show the proof of Pakistans holding the family and the facts..Obviously Obama is not lying about this and I seriously doubt Pakistan is lying about holding Bin Ladens family either..Peace to all and no I dont cheer the death of Bin Laden..I only hope the world will become a safer place for ALL of us to live in some day..

that is not proof
i believe hes dead and support america too but we want real evidence

dna evidence
its a joke america has not come out with dna evidence
this is gettin beyond a joke now
look i believe it was him but if they dont prove it soon the conspiracy theorists are gonna go into overdrive
May 4, 2011 2:21 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
In response to: Hi to all the Irish people in this forum..I am only posting this to show proof of Bin laden death after another cs member told me about all the bashing the U.S government received..I have a link that proves the Pakistan government has held Bin Ladens wife and children who witnessed his death..Here it is

It totally saddens me to read all the bashings in any forums..I am from a European family who moved to the states and I was born in the U.S..We have millions of Irish immigrants who live here, some I have made friends with, and I personally dont understand why anyone would hate a country where they have possible relatives living in?
Anyways, I wont post another thread in this forum after this..I only wanted to show the proof of Pakistans holding the family and the facts..Obviously Obama is not lying about this and I seriously doubt Pakistan is lying about holding Bin Ladens family either..Peace to all and no I dont cheer the death of Bin Laden..I only hope the world will become a safer place for ALL of us to live in some day..


I've to go to work boy. Don't have time to get into it with you. Maybe later.
May 4, 2011 2:52 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Swissblueeyes: Hi to all the Irish people in this forum..I am only posting this to show proof of Bin laden death after another cs member told me about all the bashing the U.S government received..I have a link that proves the Pakistan government has held Bin Ladens wife and children who witnessed his death..Here it is

Peace to all and no I dont cheer the death of Bin Laden..I only hope the world will become a safer place for ALL of us to live in some day..


I have edited your post but not for advantage. Some People cannot be bothered to read long statements.

This is cut and paste to try and explain why America does not do itself a favour.

It is not surprising – but needs to be noted – that bin Laden was killed in a gunfight. The order was to kill not capture, even in a face-to-face encounter, which this apparently was. We thus forfeited the right to parade his excesses to the world at large – including to the thousands of Muslims whose family members have been killed by al-Qaida attacks. We ran, knowingly, from the chance to hold him in custody, and to punish him by due process and make him account to the world for what he has done.
P.S I have a feeling this post will be running at midnight to-night so you may have added fuel to fire.
May 4, 2011 4:04 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
MSN74
MSN74MSN74Dublin, Ireland13 Threads 498 Posts
optomistic68: I have edited your post but not for advantage. Some People cannot be bothered to read long statements.

This is cut and paste to try and explain why America does not do itself a favour.

It is not surprising – but needs to be noted – that bin Laden was killed in a gunfight. The order was to kill not capture, even in a face-to-face encounter, which this apparently was. We thus forfeited the right to parade his excesses to the world at large – including to the thousands of Muslims whose family members have been killed by al-Qaida attacks. We ran, knowingly, from the chance to hold him in custody, and to punish him by due process and make him account to the world for what he has done.
P.S I have a feeling this post will be running at midnight to-night so you may have added fuel to fire.


I stayed up too late last night reading the Bin Laden thread and while I found the majority of posts interesting, as usual it turned into Schoolyard tactics. Personal attacks from one member to another totally unrelated to the thread title. Fair play to the few who stated the obvious on this...

While I am still undecided on the whole. I would have liked to have seen him interrogated and feel his victims and their families would gain more justice from the whole truth on his part in 9/11 and other terrorist acts.

In saying that I do believe he is dead, weather he died last week or last year we will never know without evidence. But proof is needed, we cannot be expected to believe all they tell us with no evidence. I sincerely hope the back lash does not cost any more lives.
May 4, 2011 7:31 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
Dr_Hfuhruhurr
Dr_HfuhruhurrDr_HfuhruhurrCork, Ireland15 Threads 1 Polls 987 Posts
Killing Bin Laden changes nothing. If anything, it will make him martyr. They should have taken him alive and left him to rot.
May 4, 2011 7:35 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
The Russian are now claiming that they have killed another top Al Qaeda militant in military operation in chechnya today.
May 4, 2011 7:39 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
biggles90000: The Russian are now claiming that they have killed another top Al Qaeda militant in military operation in chechnya today.
The only problem with the war on terror is that any country/Leader can now go attack/murder/kill anyone/country they so wish.... All under the heading of "War on Terror"............ America have now done what Israel do... braek international laws and borders to do as they wished.... However if someone seeks revenge and does the same the west will cry foul
May 4, 2011 7:40 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
Dr_Hfuhruhurr
Dr_HfuhruhurrDr_HfuhruhurrCork, Ireland15 Threads 1 Polls 987 Posts
blarneykite: The only problem with the war on terror is that any country/Leader can now go attack/murder/kill anyone/country they so wish.... All under the heading of "War on Terror"............ America have now done what Israel do... braek international laws and borders to do as they wished.... However if someone seeks revenge and does the same the west will cry foul


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May 4, 2011 7:43 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
Swissblueeyes
SwissblueeyesSwissblueeyesa lake, Michigan USA13 Threads 3,371 Posts
I wanted to thank the nice people here for having intelligent, nice posts on this thread and also add I feel it would have been better if the U.S. did try Bin Laden in court about this, but I guess they felt it was their only choice to destroy him?
I watched the news with all the Pakistan police and they seem to be angry the U.S came in without their permission.
They are guarding Bin Ladens mansion now too, so my guess is if the U.S asked for their permission to go in and get Bin Laden the Pakistan government wouldnt have allowed it to happen.
I also agree most of us would like further evidence on Bin Ladens death and from what the news says we will eventually see this..
May 4, 2011 7:49 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
darren9030
darren9030darren9030Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England UK56 Threads 1 Polls 9,665 Posts
Swissblueeyes: I wanted to thank the nice people here for having intelligent, nice posts on this thread and also add I feel it would have been better if the U.S. did try Bin Laden in court about this, but I guess they felt it was their only choice to destroy him?
I watched the news with all the Pakistan police and they seem to be angry the U.S came in without their permission.
They are guarding Bin Ladens mansion now too, so my guess is if the U.S asked for their permission to go in and get Bin Laden the Pakistan government wouldnt have allowed it to happen.
I also agree most of us would like further evidence on Bin Ladens death and from what the news says we will eventually see this..



Morning W wave



Apparently the pictures of his body are very gruesome so the USA are very reluctant to actually show them. Guess this whole thing won't blow over though until people know for 100% that he is dead. My thoughts are that he is dead as knowing the way his mind works he would have appeared on tv by now mocking America.
May 4, 2011 7:56 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
Swissblueeyes
SwissblueeyesSwissblueeyesa lake, Michigan USA13 Threads 3,371 Posts
darren9030: Morning W
Apparently the pictures of his body are very gruesome so the USA are very reluctant to actually show them. Guess this whole thing won't blow over though until people know for 100% that he is dead. My thoughts are that he is dead as knowing the way his mind works he would have appeared on tv by now mocking America.
Hi Darren..wave Ya I agree I personally dont want to see photos of him dead..I do also think the U.S will feel pressure to show them to the public..I've been reading the Pakistan news and everything they say proves the U.S did go in and kill Bin laden.
The Pakistans did not release the family to the U.S. They are sending them back to another country.
Also they did interview the wife and children who admitted they saw this all happen.
May 4, 2011 8:03 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
blarneykite: Oh I know, however they WILL seek revenge and soon I would imagine... so as usual the little people will pay the price... No flights for me or the kids for a while... You know, you can't defend yourself against people willing to die for their cause/beliefs



Yea my brother works for Virgin Atlantic Airline so hopefully now he travel safely all the Airports have up there security also they were guys there arrested yesterday in England apparent they were watching Sellafield Nuclear plant which was the Al Qaeda list of targets for years scary stuff now for the next year i think.
May 4, 2011 8:11 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Just another snippet in OBL case. Anybody have any comments on Benzir Bhuttos comment Re OBL having been murdered in 2007.

Which piece of information are we to believe and why is information so difficult to come by. After all we elect these people who keep information from us.

Maybe the old divide and conquer system is so good that there is no need to change it. Tried and tested for centuries. Keep the bewildered herd in the dark and let them fight it out in the pubs and clubs and CS Forums.......rolling on the floor laughing

May 4, 2011 8:13 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
Dr_Hfuhruhurr
Dr_HfuhruhurrDr_HfuhruhurrCork, Ireland15 Threads 1 Polls 987 Posts
optomistic68: Just another snippet in OBL case. Anybody have any comments on Benzir Bhuttos comment Re OBL having been murdered in 2007.

Which piece of information are we to believe and why is information so difficult to come by. After all we elect these people who keep information from us.

Maybe the old divide and conquer system is so good that there is no need to change it. Tried and tested for centuries. Keep the bewildered herd in the dark and let them fight it out in the pubs and clubs and CS Forums.......


she said he was alive in interviews after that. it was a pretty weird slip of the tongue but i do believe that's all it was.
May 4, 2011 8:16 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
Swissblueeyes: I understand what you are saying..I personally would have prefered the U.S took Bin Laden to court and tried him, instead of search and destroy..
I'm from European family but was born here in the states and I have seen both sides of things, how the euros think and how the americans think..Even though I dont agree with killing anyone,I understand why the navy was ordered to do what they did because if they had asked permission to go in and get bin laden alive, most likely the pakistan government wouldnt have allowed it.
I'm not pro wars or killings of any kind..I just wish the world would be a safer place for all of us to live in harmony with each other with no wars..
There we differ, I fully agree with the result... Keeping him alive would only present a figurehead to unite the loonies and keeping him somewhere would be even worse, we'd be back to the airline hostage taking of the seventies, with demand for his freedom... I do believe that the USA has now left itself open to horrible repercussions... these fundamentalists want to die and as such are difficult to stop when willing to strap a bomb to themselves and detonate the bloody thing.... Hope their first port of call isn't Ireland when Obama is here
May 4, 2011 8:17 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Dr_Hfuhruhurr: she said he was alive in interviews after that. it was a pretty weird slip of the tongue but i do believe that's all it was.


Maybe..dunno

She was also murdered so the real power brokers called the shots on that one as well. More transparency needed from our Governments.
May 4, 2011 8:19 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
optomistic68: Just another snippet in OBL case. Anybody have any comments on Benzir Bhuttos comment Re OBL having been murdered in 2007.

Which piece of information are we to believe and why is information so difficult to come by. After all we elect these people who keep information from us.

Maybe the old divide and conquer system is so good that there is no need to change it. Tried and tested for centuries. Keep the bewildered herd in the dark and let them fight it out in the pubs and clubs and CS Forums.......
Of course it's difficult to believe anything from the media or US government, afterall the KILLED their own president in the sixties... However it seem implausable that they would make such a big HUHA about it if he wasn't dead... whether he died some time ago or a few days ago, it would appear that he is indeed dead
May 4, 2011 8:19 AM CST Proof of bin ladins death
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mollie90mollie90Meath, Louth Ireland5 Threads 2,502 Posts
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