Nature Versus Nurture (33)
jimbo79: i think it all depends, beat one child and he/she grows up to be an abusive person beat it's sibling and they grow up to be calm and reasoned , two kids grow up with alcoholics as parents one turns out the same the other never touches a drop, both obviously affected by their upbringing but take differing paths because their nature is different so their reading of the nurturing received differs
u make a good point there
jimbo79: i think it all depends, beat one child and he/she grows up to be an abusive person beat it's sibling and they grow up to be calm and reasoned , two kids grow up with alcoholics as parents one turns out the same the other never touches a drop, both obviously affected by their upbringing but take differing paths because their nature is different so their reading of the nurturing received differs
Nurture was the same yet nature (their genes) were different
Good to see you back Jimbo
fitandfun79: The person makes the person... your surroundings will have some impact on the type of person you are.. whether it is a poor or affluent lifestyle you were born into.. but at the end of the day, we all have the option to choose left or right, up or down, in any given situation
The Person makes the Person...but what makes the Person???
I am still leaning towards Nurture over Nature??
I am not asking about lifestyle or being affluent etc. I am talking about personal traits,personality, how we treat others?
vinny1967: Nurture was the same yet nature (their genes) were different
Good to see you back Jimbo
Good to see you back Jimbo
hey vinny
saoirse65: The Person makes the Person...but what makes the Person???
I am still leaning towards Nurture over Nature??
I am not asking about lifestyle or being affluent etc. I am talking about personal traits,personality, how we treat others?
I am still leaning towards Nurture over Nature??
I am not asking about lifestyle or being affluent etc. I am talking about personal traits,personality, how we treat others?
Twins reared apart
In 1979, Thomas Bouchard began to study twins who were separated at birth and reared in different families. He found that an identical twin reared away from his or her co-twin seems to have about an equal chance of being similar to the co-twin in terms of personality, interests, and attitudes as one who has been reared with his or her co-twin. This leads to the conclusion that the similarities between twins are due to genes, not environment, since the differences between twins reared apart must be due totally to the environment.
Some light reading for you
I think we will all have differing opinions on this as to the percentage of influence either one has. Greater minds than ours cant work it out.
vinny1967: Twins reared apart
In 1979, Thomas Bouchard began to study twins who were separated at birth and reared in different families. He found that an identical twin reared away from his or her co-twin seems to have about an equal chance of being similar to the co-twin in terms of personality, interests, and attitudes as one who has been reared with his or her co-twin. This leads to the conclusion that the similarities between twins are due to genes, not environment, since the differences between twins reared apart must be due totally to the environment.
Some light reading for you
I think we will all have differing opinions on this as to the percentage of influence either one has. Greater minds than ours cant work it out.
In 1979, Thomas Bouchard began to study twins who were separated at birth and reared in different families. He found that an identical twin reared away from his or her co-twin seems to have about an equal chance of being similar to the co-twin in terms of personality, interests, and attitudes as one who has been reared with his or her co-twin. This leads to the conclusion that the similarities between twins are due to genes, not environment, since the differences between twins reared apart must be due totally to the environment.
Some light reading for you
I think we will all have differing opinions on this as to the percentage of influence either one has. Greater minds than ours cant work it out.
Howaya V...I know that we have discussed "Kevin" before...I loaned the book to someone so stop giving out to me for not having read it..plus the darkness of it did scare me a wee bit
Okay..statistics and books yeah..I still like to believe in the individual....
saoirse65: Howaya V...I know that we have discussed "Kevin" before...I loaned the book to someone so stop giving out to me for not having read it..plus the darkness of it did scare me a wee bit
Okay..statistics and books yeah..I still like to believe in the individual....
Okay..statistics and books yeah..I still like to believe in the individual....
Well we are all different, thats for sure
Apart from me and my great, great, great grandfather
Its a good read, but it is a work of fiction..........Still scary tho
vinny1967: Well we are all different, thats for sure
Apart from me and my great, great, great grandfather Its a good read, but it is a work of fiction..........Still scary tho
Apart from me and my great, great, great grandfather Its a good read, but it is a work of fiction..........Still scary tho
Hi Vinny
Sorry, I was in the middle of a reply to you early when I got side tracked. I never thought of the twins scenario, but I still believe it is more the environment we are exposed to, our teachings and peers that shape who we are and the path we take
Glengirl: Hi Vinny
Sorry, I was in the middle of a reply to you early when I got side tracked. I never thought of the twins scenario, but I still believe it is more the environment we are exposed to, our teachings and peers that shape who we are and the path we take
Sorry, I was in the middle of a reply to you early when I got side tracked. I never thought of the twins scenario, but I still believe it is more the environment we are exposed to, our teachings and peers that shape who we are and the path we take
how would you explain the differing paths siblings take even though they were all raised in the same manner
jimbo79: how would you explain the differing paths siblings take even though they were all raised in the same manner
The same values may have been instilled in them by their parents, but there are other factors to consider too.....friends, teachers etc. Aswell as that, being the youngest of 4 girls, I know the parenting changes as you go down the line, the core factors are the same, but there would be natural changes, due to circumstances
Glengirl: Hi Vinny
Sorry, I was in the middle of a reply to you early when I got side tracked. I never thought of the twins scenario, but I still believe it is more the environment we are exposed to, our teachings and peers that shape who we are and the path we take
Sorry, I was in the middle of a reply to you early when I got side tracked. I never thought of the twins scenario, but I still believe it is more the environment we are exposed to, our teachings and peers that shape who we are and the path we take
Well I believe nurture has a part to play all right but I think when are brought into the world, we are different, so people who are raised the same way or very similar ways will react differently. Thats where the geneaology comes in. Its an interesting subject.
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I tend towards believing that nurture has the bigger part...Adoptive parents for example may take a newborn and raise him/her with all good and positive values...can that not over ride innate traits?
You really need to read that book
Yeah I believe it can override those traits to some extent, but we can't change the inner essence of people totally. Its JMO.