Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War ( Archived) (119)

Jan 18, 2012 11:21 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
RayfromUSA: BCCI was used to rob depositors of billions of dollars.
It was also used to launder drug money and to funnel funds to the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and other CIA assets.

It takes a lot of money to keep a fake enemy force alive and kicking.



It does not mention Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden or the Taliban Ray. Is it possible that you are as usual pulling crap out of thin air and supporting it with like minded non thinkers you tube rambling productions?
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Jan 18, 2012 11:31 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
NCC1968: Anything put up along w/ 911myths BS shows how stupid the poster is anyway............once you see that you can justroll eyes


You haven't read his anti Jew stuff yet. He contends the Jews did not own the land they came from in the Middle East in the form of a nation ergo they must give it to the people called Palestinians who never owned land in the Middle East nor any nation.

Like, he cites some map he found on a hate site to support his shtick and here, he supports his crap by interchanging Mujaheddin with Taliban when it was actually militias under warlords that were the beginnings of the Taliban and only that after they fought amongst themselves with the Taliban becoming the most powerful group of all the militias. A conclusion that was not apparent until 1992, well after the CIA had provided support, weapons and funding to battle the SOviet Union.

However nutty he is, entertainment rains down when he posts!
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Jan 18, 2012 11:33 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
Albertaghost: You haven't read his anti Jew stuff yet.............
However nutty he is, entertainment rains down when he posts!


Do we get some GEE-TAR music to go w/ itlaugh
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Jan 18, 2012 11:41 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
NCC1968: Do we get some GEE-TAR music to go w/ it


Only once did he post a song. And it was not associated with any of his hate or nutter stuff. He is better than I at guitar for sure but my singing is at least a match.
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Jan 18, 2012 11:52 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
Albertaghost: You haven't read his anti Jew stuff yet. He contends the Jews did not own the land they came from in the Middle East in the form of a nation ergo they must give it to the people called Palestinians who never owned land in the Middle East nor any nation.

Like, he cites some map he found on a hate site to support his shtick and here, he supports his crap by interchanging Mujaheddin with Taliban when it was actually militias under warlords that were the beginnings of the Taliban and only that after they fought amongst themselves with the Taliban becoming the most powerful group of all the militias. A conclusion that was not apparent until 1992, well after the CIA had provided support, weapons and funding to battle the SOviet Union.

However nutty he is, entertainment rains down when he posts!


Your posts are definitely more entertaining.. rolling on the floor laughing

wine


“When in doubt, make a fool of yourself. There is a microscopically thin line between being brilliantly creative and acting like the most gigantic idiot on earth. So what the hell, leap.” ~Cynthia Heimel
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Jan 19, 2012 12:11 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost: ""Children as young as 7 have reported that they were deployed as suicide bombers. Surviving children who trained as suicide bombers describe having been given amulets containing verses from the Quran that they were told would protect them from the explosion. They said they were told that when the bomb they carried detonated, everyone around them would die but they would survive.

“The Taliban’s use of children as suicide bombers is not only sickening, but it makes a mockery of Mullah Omar’s claim to protect children and civilians,” said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “Any political movement or army that manipulates or coerces children into becoming human bombs has lost touch with basic humanity.”

The Taliban has pledged to respect the laws of war, published a code of conduct, and recently released a statement by its leader, Mullah Omar, renewing a commitment to protect civilians. The Taliban has denied using children as suicide bombers or for other military purposes.

The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan has collected evidence that the Taliban has been recruiting children ages 11 through 17 to carry out activities including armed combat, planting improvised explosive devices, and smuggling weapons across the Pakistan-Afghan border. The Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission confirms increasing use by the Taliban of child suicide bombers. The Afghan government has reported that as many as 100 children who were recruited as suicide bombers by the Taliban are in the custody of the National Directorate of Security.

Recent incidents of suicide bombing involving children include:
• On June 26, an 8-year-old girl was killed in central Uruzgan province when a bag of explosives that the Taliban had instructed her to carry to a police checkpoint detonated.
• On May 20, in Nuristan province, a suicide vest strapped to a 12-year-old boy exploded prematurely, killing several suspected insurgents, including the boy.
• In early May, five children, all under age 13, from Logar and Ghazni provinces who had allegedly been trained as suicide bombers were arrested by the National Directorate of Security.
• Around May 3, a 14-year-old boy who said he had been coerced by the Taliban into carrying a bomb under threat that he would otherwise have his hand cut off surrendered to international troops in Ghazni province.
• On May 1, a 12-year-old boy blew himself up in a bazaar in the Barmal district of eastern Paktika province, killing four civilians and wounding 12 others.
• On April 13, in Kunar province, an explosive vest detonated by a 13-year-old boy killed 10 people, including 5 schoolboys.
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Children have participated in many Afghan previous wars, for example in fighting the Soviets. That is deep in their culture to fight invaders to the bitter end.
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Jan 19, 2012 12:36 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
bohemianjack: Your posts are definitely more entertaining..

“When in doubt, make a fool of yourself. There is a microscopically thin line between being brilliantly creative and acting like the most gigantic idiot on earth. So what the hell, leap.” ~Cynthia Heimel


Why thank you Jack. I must say, your pointless shtick contributes little but does let us all know that you are still holding the ensign of trollism high.

"Closed mind like closed book - a block of wood" Chinese proverb
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Jan 19, 2012 12:39 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Antjo39: Children have participated in many Afghan previous wars, for example in fighting the Soviets. That is deep in their culture to fight invaders to the bitter end.


IN those days it was a volunteer act though Autie. And, against an enemy.

In this case, if you ever care to read up on it, the Taliban are forcing them to bomb innocent civilians, not military forces that are aiding the democratically elected government at the their request in the form of a Status of Forces agreement.
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Jan 19, 2012 12:58 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost: IN those days it was a volunteer act though Autie. And, against an enemy.

In this case, if you ever care to read up on it, the Taliban are forcing them to bomb innocent civilians, not military forces that are aiding the democratically elected government at the their request in the form of a Status of Forces agreement.
Wow!! you are so satisifed by your black and white version of reality.
During Soviet-Afghan war, there were many examples of civilian carnage undertaken by the rebels as well. I am surprised that the most learned and unbeatable Political analysts from CS has forgotten certain little facts. grin
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Jan 19, 2012 1:00 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Antjo39: Wow!! you are so satisifed by your black and white version of reality.
During Soviet-Afghan war, there were many examples of civilian carnage undertaken by the rebels as well. I am surprised that the most learned and unbeatable Political analysts from CS has forgotten certain little facts.


Waiting for you to show us the way as I don't believe you.

You do have something other than trollism to back yourself up with in this case right?
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Jan 19, 2012 1:04 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost: Waiting for you to show us the way as I don't believe you.

You do have something other than trollism to back yourself up with in this case right?
Trollism is the stuff you constantly use to "teach" others how knowledgeable you are and how ignorant and stupid they are (because they do not agree with you) May I say that, Sir?
The Soviet-Afghan war has been widely treated in many books, so I repeat: I am surprised that you, the Master of CS political analysis, does not know that. laugh
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Jan 19, 2012 1:09 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Antjo39: Trollism is the stuff you constantly use to "teach" others how knowledgeable you are and how ignorant and stupid they are (because they do not agree with you) May I say that, Sir?
The Soviet-Afghan war has been widely treated in many books, so I repeat: I am surprised that you, the Master of CS political analysis, does not know that.


So please, provide us some quotes to support your shtick then. I have provided mine in many posts, and, have even devoted a thread to it in which you can peruse the various links to educate yourself and, since you differ in opinion, in order to sway us, who have an open yet, proof demanding mind, you must provide something to counter that which we accept as fact in light of what we have been presented with.

Anything else is 'trollism' so, provide something other than your words please.
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Jan 19, 2012 1:13 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
Antjo39: The West applauded when the children killed Soviet soldiers, ............


SO if you want to say ALL westerners agree with that then I have to align you with Alberto Fujimori - some country - you MUST be like him.
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Jan 19, 2012 1:29 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost: So please, provide us some quotes to support your shtick then. I have provided mine in many posts, and, have even devoted a thread to it in which you can peruse the various links to educate yourself and, since you differ in opinion, in order to sway us, who have an open yet, proof demanding mind, you must provide something to counter that which we accept as fact in light of what we have been presented with.

Anything else is 'trollism' so, provide something other than your words please.
Quotes?
Unfortunately I do not have your methods to "prove" and "back-up" your own biased version of facts. Go to your local library tomorrow and grab a couple of volumes. I reccomend to go to the last siege of Kandahar or the way the tribes supporting the Soviets were dealt off at the end of that civil war (children and women included). These two are good examples and will satisfy your curiosity. Have a good night, buddy.
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Jan 19, 2012 1:35 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
JamesGK
JamesGKJamesGKMadinat Yanbu Al-Sinaiyah, Al Madinah al Munawwarah Saudi Arabia2 Posts
Faceless idiots from where else? Scotland and Canada! What do they know about anything??? Nothing! Certainly not the truth!
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Jan 19, 2012 1:37 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Antjo39: Quotes?
Unfortunately I do not have your methods to "prove" and "back-up" your own biased version of facts. Go to your local library tomorrow and grab a couple of volumes. I reccomend to go to the last siege of Kandahar or the way the tribes supporting the Soviets were dealt off at the end of that civil war (children and women included). These two are good examples and will satisfy your curiosity. Have a good night, buddy.


Then i recommend you stick to your library and away from discussion boards where your unsubstantiated idiocy means nothing but trollism.

If in fact you did have books to support your contentions there would be ample reviews and titles to provide and, if you cared in the least, you would be able to provide quotes, page numbers and authors but, you have nothing but your d@*k in one hand and mouse in the other.
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Jan 20, 2012 1:36 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
JamesGK: Faceless idiots from where else? Scotland and Canada! What do they know about anything??? Nothing! Certainly not the truth!
Let's have the TRUTH then!
Straight from the Taliban's Actions and Mouths!
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Jan 21, 2012 8:18 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost: Then i recommend you stick to your library and away from discussion boards where your unsubstantiated idiocy means nothing but trollism.

If in fact you did have books to support your contentions there would be ample reviews and titles to provide and, if you cared in the least, you would be able to provide quotes, page numbers and authors but, you have nothing but your d@*k in one hand and mouse in the other.
Discussion boards? I see how important you think you are. Well, there you go.
I just mentioned a few topics to freely review (about that subject). As I said, I do not have your biased methods to choose isolated quotes and sources, and certainly I know it is so hard for you to take many different sources of information and try to get to your own conclussions; let alone reading a whole serious treatise laugh (something that could be part of a more serious form of "research" a word you have been misusing here constantly....)
Anyway, your superiority consists in repeating official truths that suit your little mind and your insane fanatical drive to appear here and everywhere as intelligent and well-learned. I wonder how many reasonable women are pleased with such a miserable show here.
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Jan 21, 2012 8:57 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
WomniZer
WomniZerWomniZerFlorence, Tuscany Italy3 Threads 113 Posts
Albertaghost: Possibly to you however, Human Rights Watch, who are the watchdogs of matters such as this do not list pissing on dead bodies as torture or anything of the sort so, you will have to provide something to back up your silly claim.


You just want to have arguments online and debase people, that's all your threads are about; not sharing info, not debating, but to argue and show off the size of your...


















EGO.

Personally, I think you're a f ---- well, no need to say it, you'll find an argument with that too.

So, how long has it been since a woman put up with your crap? laugh
Obviously too long, Sherlock.
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Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Taliban: A Terrorist
Group, Not A Political Party

By Wahid Monawar

June 11, 2011

How ironic, of all people in the world, Vladimir Lenin, the Russian revolutionary defined the goal of terrorism succinctly. Lenin said: “the purpose of terrorism is to terrorize.” A century has unfolded since Lenin’s practical conclusion. In modern era, America witnessed the act of domestic terrorism by Timothy McVeigh, a United States Army veteran also known as the Oklahoma City Bomber, who sympathized with militia movement and grew tired of his federal government. McVeigh killed 168 innocent civilians, including women and children, and injured 450; his action was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

When September 11 occurred, Osama Bin Laden became the overnight poster child of terrorism. With Bin Laden now serving as organic fish food at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, his co-conspirators, the Taliban continuously terrorize freedom. The Taliban are the perfect face of the modern terrorism in all of its glorious pathology. Why anyone takes them seriously is utterly beyond me. And yet for some, including Afghanistan’s leader, their bogus moral preening continues to resonate.

While Afghanistan’s president and his family are openly advocating for the Taliban to be recognized as a legitimate political movement, the Taliban’s actions clearly classify them as a terrorist organization which desperately preys on vulnerable minds. Boys as young as 12-years-old are recruited to become suicide bombers under the false pretense of promises which will never be delivered. And in turn, the Taliban boast about using these children as human bombs to slaughter civilians in universities and hospitals across Afghanistan.

When the Pakistan-backed Taliban regime collapsed in 2001, Afghanistan’s doors were open to all Afghans, regardless of their ethnicity or political affiliation. Even those who served during the dark days of the Afghan Communist era seized this opportunity and reintegrated themselves to help in rebuilding Afghanistan. The Taliban, however, resorted to terrorism to appease their Pakistani ISI masters to incessantly inflict terror on Afghans.

Although there is no broadly accepted definition for terrorism, a terrorist group such as the Taliban commonly is defined as a set of individuals belonging to a non-state entity that uses terrorism to achieve their goal. In the Taliban’s case, their objective is for the United States to leave Afghanistan, so Pakistan ISI can conveniently move back in, as in the late-nineties. While most terrorist groups are political by nature, their aim is to target civilians as the Taliban demonstrate this on daily basis.

Unfortunately, Afghan president’s 10 infelicitous years at the helm has failed to help him to grasp the basic notion that even terrorist groups that have ended, did so by pursuing their goals through politics. There is no need to rebrand them and fabricate an identity that genuinely doesn’t fit and is seriously incongruous with Taliban’s character. Today, Taliban’s ideological motivation, to kill Americans because they are Christian, no longer resonates with Afghans, unless Mr. Karzai stokes Afghans sentiment against the United States and appeal to their emotional intelligence.
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