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Mar 19, 2012 7:40 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
HealthyLiving
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Of all the rumors flying around on the internet, one just refuses to die, and it concerns America's FEMA camps.


In a nutshell, there seems to be a solicitation of bids occurring for the staffing of FEMA camps within 72 hours of implementation by an order from either Homeland Security or the president. This situation begs to be investigated, with special consideration paid to the motives of the present administration.


I went to the source, the FedBizOpps.gov, and searched for the solicitation number HSFEHQ-10-R-0027, titled National Responder Support Camp.


A search of the history of the amendments to this Solicitation for Contract showed that it had been modified several times, with the last modification -- number 0008, with an original date of letting out to bid with a synopsis of May 13, 2011 -- occurring on December 16, 2011. This last modification rescinded the solicitation, with said modification's purpose noted as follows:


1. Cancel Solicitation HSFEHQ-10-R-0027.

2. A new draft solicitation will be issued on January 2012 for industry comment.

3. A Pre-Solicitation Conference will be held approximately two week post draft solicitation.


Okay...score one for the internet and the vigilant citizens who perform an invaluable service to our nation by monitoring the actions of our government and its various agencies.


I began the laborious task of reading the Invitation to Bid -- this tome is 116, pages with many canned and boilerplate requirements for doing business with Uncle Sam duly enshrined amongst the pages. The Task Order Request (TOPR) under Scenario I & II under Section J of the Appendix made for another 42 pages. The required size of the camps was fluid, though they had the required capacity of 301 to two thousand, including security and camp cadre.


The staffing requirements or cadre for FEMA personnel for these camps -- which are identified as being located in five (5) distinct regions throughout and within the borders of the USA, with camps located in each and every state -- was three to fifteen each. The size of these camps will vary around 5 acres per 1,000 inhabitants, though they will never be less than 3 acres for populations of 500 or fewer inhabitants within the camps' boundaries.


This requirement also had a minimum square footage for each inhabitant: either the camp's cadre and first responders of 63 square feet, or approximately 8 feet on each side. This is slightly less than current Federal Court(s) requirements for housing prisoners, which is approximately 72 square feet. Perimeter fencing or barricades is required to be six feet high, enclosing the camp, with all traffic in or out to be recorded on a daily log and with security restricting all traffic and access. The contractor shall also provide fencing and barricades around areas which are "off limits" to occupants. ID Badges are required and are either blue or red, depending on the carrier is temporary or considered an occupant of the camp.


The first of several anomalies in the solicitation for bid was in the contractor staffing requirements, which puzzlingly required staff to be fully operational within 72 hours. Furthermore, "henever practical, displaced citizens will be given the first opportunities for employment within the camp, assuming skills and capabilities are pertinent for the open positions."

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This led me to question the stated purpose of these camps, considering that the successful contractor would need to have personnel ready to go on such short notice, with notification from FEMA, Homeland Security, or the president within 72 hours. So the question arises: how could the camp utilize "displaced citizens" in the initial staffing unless the contractor knew where and when a disaster, man-made or otherwise would occur beforehand?


Another anomaly was the requirement that the "off limits" area was to be enclosed before anything else:


The contractor shall also provide fencing and barricades around areas which are "off limits" to occupants. Fencing and barricades are required within 36 hours for "phased" setup timeframes, and 72 hours for the rest of the initial setup timeframe.


Next question: just what is this "off limits" area to be used for, since the bid proposal specified only two (2) classes of occupants of the camp -- temporary or occupant as first responder? Furthermore, it indicates that there may be a camp within the camp, or an area that is to be utilized by another group that is not revealed in the bid solicitation...your guess is as good as mine. Most Americans would not like the ambiguity of this area's function!


Another question arose on the Term of the Contract (F.3), which reads as follows:


The contract shall be effective as of the execution date of the base contract, and shall continue up to five years if all four one-year options are exercised, except that delivery orders placed prior to the expiration date shall remain in full force and effect until deliveries have been completed and payments, therefore, have been made. The final delivery order shall not exceed two years.


The nature of the duration seems to belie a long-term use for these camps, which is also not fitting the transitory nature of natural disasters, with most communities being habitable again after a relatively short period of time. We're talking months, not years.


Under the Principal Place of Performance (F.4), this solicitation implies that all of the areas outlined below must be staffed:


The effort required under this contract shall be performed in the United States. Task Orders will designate the exact locations where services will be provided. The five (5) areas of coverage are broken down as follows:

Area 1: Includes the states of CT, DC, DE, MA, MD, ME, NH, NJ, PA, VT, NY, WV, VA, RI

Area 2: Includes the states of KY, TN, MS, AL, GA, SC, NC, FL

Area 3: Includes the states of CO, IA, IL, IN, KS, MI, MN, MO, MT, ND, NE, OH, SD, UT, WI, WY

Area 4: Includes the states of AR, LA, NM, OK, TX

Area 5: Includes the states of AZ, CA, ID, NV, OR, WA
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The language is specific in that all requirements are performed in the United States. However, the language does not specify that it would be a phased approach or even a localized area that experiences a natural disaster -- simply the entire nation.


In the Task Order Proposal Request, there is a specific requirement for large vehicle parking:


Special Requirements:

- Outsized Vehicle Parking within Security Area (> 2.5 ton vehicles): Estimate required space and add to acreage requirement.

- Outsized vehicle parking outside security area (> 2.5 ton vehicles): Estimate required space and add to acreage requirement.

- Mission Support Work Area(s): Minimum square footage, Accessibility


These requirements suggest that the type of vehicle(s) will be either solely high-occupancy (i.e., buses) or large trucks or heavy equipment combined with buses. The interesting point about this section is that the authors allude to a "Security Area" and an "Unsecured Area" with no specific requirements coming forth.


To sum up: the solicitation to bid for the staffing of FEMA camps within 72 hours is a curious proposition, since it appears to predict a calamity that will affect the entire nation simultaneously --completely unlike a location-specific natural disaster.


This may be nothing more than a preparedness exercise by Homeland Security to see if anyone besides the military would be able to meet these stringent requirements for rapid deployment. However, what I found most striking was the "off limits" areas within each camp and staffing with "displaced persons" and the "Mission Support Work Area(s)," all undefined. As citizens, we need to know the exact purpose of these camps, given President Obama's propensity to bend our constitutional republic to his own purposes!


(All documents can be found at this website for the GSA Federal Business Opportunities.)
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Mar 19, 2012 7:44 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
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Source: By Alan P. Halbert




HLdunno

What say YOU?
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Mar 19, 2012 9:00 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
bohemianjack
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What? Not this again.. doh

FEMA camps for national emergencies? dunno

C'mon... defend your position.. tongue


wine


"Sometimes life's Hell. But hey! Whatever gets the marshmallows toasty." ~J. Andrew Helt smoking
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HealthyLiving
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bohemianjack: What? Not this again..

FEMA camps for national emergencies?

C'mon... defend your position.. "Sometimes life's Hell. But hey! Whatever gets the marshmallows toasty." ~J. Andrew Helt



What... YOU again????
rolling on the floor laughing

Okay, how would you suppose we give 72 hours advanced notice for National Emergencies, a qualification?dunno

It's about time you made an appearance... STRANGER!!!
I love you and I have missed you tremendously!!!

As for your quote...
I'd rather be toasting marshmallows on YOUR grill in the sanctuary!

You are so blessed, Jack!

Love Forever!
HLlips
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Mar 19, 2012 9:36 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
bohemianjack
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bohemianjack: What? Not this again..

FEMA camps for national emergencies?

C'mon... defend your position.. "Sometimes life's Hell. But hey! Whatever gets the marshmallows toasty." ~J. Andrew Helt


So... suppose the contractors are the same as they now use for prison corporations.. dunno

As an aside to this... popcorn

I read Monsanto had taken over XL, formerly Blackwater..

What say you.. wink

gnite


wine


"In my own country I am in a far-off land. I am strong yet have no force or power; I win yet remain a loser. At break of day I say goodnight. When I lie down I have a great fear of falling." ~Francois Villon smoking
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HealthyLiving
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bohemianjack: So... suppose the contractors are the same as they now use for prison corporations..

As an aside to this...

I read Monsanto had taken over XL, formerly Blackwater..

What say you..

"In my own country I am in a far-off land. I am strong yet have no force or power; I win yet remain a loser. At break of day I say goodnight. When I lie down I have a great fear of falling." ~Francois Villon



The contractors very well could be as you have stated.
Remember that thread about the prison contractors, an entity of Blackwater, we discussed a couple of years ago? It was in Montana. hmm

Hey, I would not put anything past Monsanto.
The government is sleeping with the enemy, only I believe it never sleeps.

If what Byron York says is true, it would be the perfect time to enact such a FEMA scheme, wouldn't it???? Economic collapse?
Watch...


HLtongue
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Mar 19, 2012 9:53 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
bohemianjack
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HealthyLiving: What... YOU again????


Okay, how would you suppose we give 72 hours advanced notice for National Emergencies, a qualification?

It's about time you made an appearance... STRANGER!!!
I love you and I have missed you tremendously!!!

As for your quote...
I'd rather be toasting marshmallows on YOUR grill in the sanctuary!

You are so blessed, Jack!

Love Forever!
HL


wave

That's only what you think when you're too far away to control me.. tongue

In the mean time, I'm wasting time with a bit of truth prepared BS for those wanting my Yahoo.. dancing

She Said

hi

I am a Very Honest and Faithful God fearing Christian woman.I came across your profile and i found it very interesting,I will love to learn more about you and see what the God almighty had for us..am from UK but am now in Africa dew to my mum sickness cos she from here that why am here now,if all goes well with as meet you is not a problem cos am using a UK passport and i can go anywhere i want


You said... laugh


Re: i can go anywhere

Ok... you got my attention... lol.. I've got a few minutes before I must get on with what I was doing before I was distracted.

My qualities and interests are many, but not absolute, therefore, I need an-other to bounce, among other things... lol.. ideas, occasionally. I would enjoy honest, respectful and fun to talk to, takes time to enjoy life, can laugh at themselves and sometimes make me laugh.

Not looking for someone to keep up, but rather a co-operator that will help stay on track. Mutual admiration and respect are most important for a closer relationship with me.

All that said, I must say I don't suffer maniacs or fools; unless worthy of pointing a finger and laughing a bit, I get bored and slip out the side door.

So, I've written a bit and wonder what sparked your interest? I'd also like to see a few more photos and know more your intention.

Regards,bouquet
Jack


wine


"I smile when I’m angry. I cheat and I lie. I do what I have to do To get by. But I know what is wrong, And I know what is right. And I’d die for the truth In My Secret Life." ~Leonard Cohen - In My Secret Life
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bohemianjack
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HealthyLiving: The contractors very well could be as you have stated.
Remember that thread about the prison contractors, an entity of Blackwater, we discussed a couple of years ago? It was in Montana. hmm

Hey, I would not put anything past Monsanto.
The government is sleeping with the enemy, only I believe it never sleeps.

If what Byron York says is true, it would be the perfect time to enact such a FEMA scheme, wouldn't it???? Economic collapse?
Watch...


HL


Faux... We trust them to be fair and balanced.. laugh

Fox News gets okay to misinform public, court ruling





As for the phony firm in Montana... never know who's working with CIA/NSA/HOMELAND Etc. Beyond that, Monsanto as well as other more than likely former black ops. corporations, the governement as enemy? dunno



wine



“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” —George Orwell wink
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HealthyLiving
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rolling on the floor laughing

They must be working hard tonight, Jack.
I have received 3 messages from different ones just while responding to this thread!laugh

I am busy reading News, which is more enjoyable to me than responding to their emails, thus, they were deleted.

Started a new thread by the way, "People said it didn't matter".

Stay entertained and exercise your mind as you are doing.
It's Healthy!rolling on the floor laughing

HLteddybear
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bohemianjack
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HealthyLiving: They must be working hard tonight, Jack.
I have received 3 messages from different ones just while responding to this thread!

I am busy reading News, which is more enjoyable to me than responding to their emails, thus, they were deleted.

Started a new thread by the way, "People said it didn't matter".

Stay entertained and exercise your mind as you are doing.
It's Healthy!

HL


I don't spend as much time as they do and have a bit of fun writing stock reply that keeps their spirits up while I report them and then 'poof' they're gone.. yawn

At the same time I enjoy reading to keep up with forum Yahoos.. popcorn


wine


"Listen, real poetry doesn't say anything; it just ticks off the possibilities. Opens all doors. You can walk through any one that suits you." ~Jim Morrison. Power rose in teeth
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HealthyLiving
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bohemianjack: Faux... We trust them to be fair and balanced..

Fox News gets okay to misinform public, court ruling


As for the phony firm in Montana... never know who's working with CIA/NSA/HOMELAND Etc. Beyond that, Monsanto as well as other more than likely former black ops. corporations, the governement as enemy?

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.� —George Orwell



Hey, I did not give an opinion of faux news, just asked you to watch greta's interview with Byron York. He says a huge financial collapse will occurr just after the elections.

Obama can then enact Martial Law and remain in power and send folks off to camp FEMA. It will happen, it's just a matter of WHEN. I expect it at any time.

Goodnight love,
HLpeace
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Mar 20, 2012 3:43 AM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
Here is one little Guy who definitely is getting too big for his Britches!

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Mar 20, 2012 8:11 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
HealthyLiving
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Conrad73: Here is one little Guy who definitely is getting too big for his Britches!




handshake Good work, Conrad!

Way too big for his britches!!very mad

George Bush claimed to be the "decider" and wanted to be the "dictator", but I think this guy, by his actions is definitely the Dictator.

We're doomed!crying

HLhelp
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RayfromUSA
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HealthyLiving:
George Bush claimed to be the "decider" and wanted to be the "dictator", but I think this guy, by his actions is definitely the Dictator.
We're doomed!


Bush and Obama were always on the same globalist team.
We-the-people are their enemies.
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RayfromUSA
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In the soon to come conflict, even the supposed good guys fighting to restore the constitution will really just another branch of the globalist plot.

The real goal of both sides of the conflict will be to cause as much chaos and violence as possible.

Thus after totally raping and robbing the people, reducing the population through war, terrorism, disease, and famine, and destroying all the existing political systems. They can present their new revolutionary regime of survivors as the good guys, restoring order after the holocaust.

There will be no genuine "good guys" in the conflict. The real "good guys" will be those who don't let themselves get drawn into the violence.


Mt 26:52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.

Rev 13:10 Whoever leads others into captivity will themselves go into captivity, and those who kill with the sword must themselves be killed with the sword. Herein is faith and the patience of the saints.

The people committing the violence on both sides will falsely think that they are somehow defending liberty. But in truth they are just being used to destroy it.
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Mar 25, 2012 9:59 PM CST January 2, 2012 New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
HealthyLiving
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RayfromUSA: In the soon to come conflict, even the supposed good guys fighting to restore the constitution will really just another branch of the globalist plot.

The real goal of both sides of the conflict will be to cause as much chaos and violence as possible.

Thus after totally raping and robbing the people, reducing the population through war, terrorism, disease, and famine, and destroying all the existing political systems. They can present their new revolutionary regime of survivors as the good guys, restoring order after the holocaust.

There will be no genuine "good guys" in the conflict. The real "good guys" will be those who don't let themselves get drawn into the violence.Mt 26:52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.

Rev 13:10 Whoever leads others into captivity will themselves go into captivity, and those who kill with the sword must themselves be killed with the sword. Herein is faith and the patience of the saints.

The people committing the violence on both sides will falsely think that they are somehow defending liberty. But in truth they are just being used to destroy it.



thumbs up So True, so true!

God give us Wisdom and an ear to hear the voice of truth for guidance.please

HL
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