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Jun 19, 2014 4:30 PM CST Canada - NWS #6?
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
So, may I ask,...would the world freak out if Canada armed itself in a nuclear capacity? At less than 40 million strong (but with world-class soldiers), with unbelievable resources, many of which are quite suitable for the creation of fissionable weapons grade material), an ESTABLISHED nuclear (for power only) reactor program,....uh....why should we lag behind North Korea? Doesn't the world trust us not to unleash armagedon,....e ven if the USA REFUSES to relinquish the Stanley Cup back to its "home"(Yes, I know,...its a North American,...I mean Canada/US trophy),......

Should we back-bacon eating hosers be trusted with the energy of the atom? (and remember,it is always easier for us to "beg" for forgiveness, than to "ask" for permission!)

Signed, the next Prime Minister of Canuckville, just waiting to get a button to push,....
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Jun 19, 2014 4:48 PM CST Canada - NWS #6?
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
Ah,....so the views begin to add up,....but no comments,....no fears,...speak your mind,....you will not be targetted,....immediately, that is,.....

Signed, the future PM of Canada who just got a friend request from North Korea on Facebook
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Jun 19, 2014 4:56 PM CST Canada - NWS #6?
Scott1812
Scott1812Scott1812Claresholm, Alberta Canada26 Threads 11 Polls 1,595 Posts
A_Non_A_Moose: So, may I ask,...would the world freak out if Canada armed itself in a nuclear capacity? At less than 40 million strong (but with world-class soldiers), with unbelievable resources, many of which are quite suitable for the creation of fissionable weapons grade material), an ESTABLISHED nuclear (for power only) reactor program,....uh....why should we lag behind North Korea? Doesn't the world trust us not to unleash armagedon,....e ven if the USA REFUSES to relinquish the Stanley Cup back to its "home"(Yes, I know,...its a North American,...I mean Canada/US trophy),......

Should we back-bacon eating hosers be trusted with the energy of the atom? (and remember,it is always easier for us to "beg" for forgiveness, than to "ask" for permission!)

Signed, the next Prime Minister of Canuckville, just waiting to get a button to push,....
As i remember up til 1984 we had nuclear weapons on our Voodo aircraft!But to answer your question yes they freak not those nice Canadians!wave tip hat thumbs up cheers
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Jun 19, 2014 5:11 PM CST Canada - NWS #6?
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
wave First, ya all gotta vote "Liberal"peace
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Jun 19, 2014 5:15 PM CST Canada - NWS #6?
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
Scott1812: Well the rain is starting to let up it was a little touch and go there for a little bit.And how about you safe and dry?But no we don`t need nukes we do need new fighter planes!


Dry here,...hardly any rain north of Edmonton. Yup, new fighter planes, helicopters, tanks....ad infinitum,...our NATO committment costs us,...wherein the $$$ could be spent better in other realms. Let's go nuclear (cost us 40 to 50 billion) and then we are done with it! Then we can spend $$$ on what we need as a country as opposed to the lives and $$ we spend on NATO committments.
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Jun 20, 2014 5:41 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
Canada has not maintained and positioned weapons of mass destruction since 1984 as of 1998 and has signed treaties repudiating possession of them. Canada ratified the Geneva Protocol in 1930 and the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty in 1970, but still sanctions contributions to American military programs.
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Jun 20, 2014 5:42 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
With the American emphasis on nuclear deterrence following the Soviet Union's atom bomb test, Canadian cooperation with the US required the alignment of Canadian doctrine with defensive elements of American nuclear weapons doctrine.

The first US nuclear weapon came to Canada in 1950 when the United States Air Force Strategic Air Command stationed 11 model 1561 Fat Man atomic bombs at Goose AFB, Newfoundland and Labrador.

From 1963 to 1984, Canada fielded a total of four tactical nuclear weapons systems which deployed several hundred nuclear warheads.

Throughout the Cold War, Canada was closely aligned with defensive elements of United States programs in both NORAD and NATO. In 1964 Canada sent its White Paper on Defence to U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to ensure he would not, “find anything in these references contrary to any views may have expressed.”

Canada withdrew three of the four nuclear-capable weapons systems by 1972. The single system retained, the AIR-2 Genie delivered 1.5 kiloton of force, and was designed to strike enemy aircraft as opposed to ground targets, and may not qualify as a weapon of mass destruction given its limited yield.
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Jun 20, 2014 5:43 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
Canada continues to promote peaceful nuclear technology exemplified by the CANDU reactor. Unlike most designs, the CANDU does not require enriched fuel, and in theory is therefore much less likely to lead to the development of weaponized missile fuel. However, like all power reactor designs, CANDU reactors produce and use plutonium in their fuel rods during normal operation (roughly 50% of the energy generated in a CANDU reactor comes from the in situ fission of plutonium created in the uranium fuel), and this plutonium could be used in a nuclear explosive if separated and converted to metallic form (albeit only as reactor-grade plutonium, and therefore of limited military usefulness). Accordingly, CANDU reactors, like most power reactors in the world, are subject to safeguards under the United Nations which prevent possible diversion of plutonium. CANDU reactors are designed to be refuelled while running, which makes the details of such safeguards significantly different from other reactor designs. The end result, however, is a consistent and internationally accepted level of proliferation risk.

A common accusation is that India used Canadian reactors to produce plutonium for weapons. India owns two licensed CANDU reactors and began nuclear weapons tests shortly after they became operational in 1972. However, international observers have concluded that no plutonium was diverted from the safeguarded CANDU reactors.[citation needed] The plutonium for the initial bombs came from the older CIRUS reactor built by Canada (see Nuclear Weapons above), but the material for India's most recent nuclear test, Operation Shakti, is thought to come from the locally-designed Dhruva reactor. India has also built a number of reactors, not under IAEA safeguards, that were derived from the CANDU design and are used for power generation. These may also be used for plutonium production.

Canada has volunteered to help destroy some of the leftover chemical weapons of the USSR. There is also talk of taking Soviet nuclear fuel and using it as fuel in CANDU reactors, but this is controversial.
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Jun 20, 2014 5:45 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
Canada possesses 8% of the world's uranium resources, but currently produces roughly 22% of the uranium sold on the global market. Most of this uranium comes from the McArthur River Mine in Saskatchewan, the most productive uranium mine in the world. Uranium extraction is expected to increase significantly in 2013 with the opening of the Cigar Lake Mine. Given 572,000 metric tons of known uranium resources (U3O8), Canada will continue to play a significant role in meeting world demand. Canadian industry is also active in the refining and conversion processes. Cameco Corporation's refinery at Blind River is the world's largest, and refines both domestic and foreign U3O8 into UO3. Cameco's conversion facility at Port Hope represents 25% of the western world's uranium hexafluoride (UF6) conversion capacity, and is the only commercial supplier of fuel-grade natural UO2, used to fabricate fuel bundles for CANDUs around the world. 85% of Canada's uranium production is exported. Canada is a member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), and concludes bilateral safeguards agreements with customer countries as a precondition for nuclear trade.
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Jun 20, 2014 5:55 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pedalguy59: First, ya all gotta vote "Liberal"


We did vote LIBERAL in Ontario last week and we will vote LIBERAL again next federal election. Stephen Harper is gone.

O Canada ....

God please bring us back Pierre Elliot Trudeau
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Jun 20, 2014 5:56 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya: We did vote LIBERAL in Ontario last week and we will vote LIBERAL again next federal election. Stephen Harper is gone.

O Canada ....

God please bring us back Pierre Elliot Trudeau


or at least Margaret Trudeaudoh
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Jun 20, 2014 6:03 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
equiya: We did vote LIBERAL in Ontario last week and we will vote LIBERAL again next federal election. Stephen Harper is gone.

O Canada ....

God please bring us back Pierre Elliot Trudeau


thumbs up I will settle for his Son. I do think he is ten years to
early, but will get voted in anyway.
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Jun 20, 2014 6:04 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
JeanKimberley: or at least Margaret Trudeau


Yes, that would be fun.

I saw her weeping besides Pierre's casket as he lied in state in Ottawa when he died.
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Jun 20, 2014 6:07 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pedalguy59: I will settle for his Son. I do think he is ten years to
early, but will get voted in anyway.



No, no Justin Trudeau.
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Jun 20, 2014 6:08 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
equiya: No, no Justin Trudeau.


He is the Liberal leader.
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Jun 20, 2014 6:15 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
JeanKimberley: Canada possesses 8% of the world's uranium resources, but currently produces roughly 22% of the uranium sold on the global market. Most of this uranium comes from the McArthur River Mine in Saskatchewan, the most productive uranium mine in the world. Uranium extraction is expected to increase significantly in 2013 with the opening of the Cigar Lake Mine. Given 572,000 metric tons of known uranium resources (U3O8), Canada will continue to play a significant role in meeting world demand. Canadian industry is also active in the refining and conversion processes. Cameco Corporation's refinery at Blind River is the world's largest, and refines both domestic and foreign U3O8 into UO3. Cameco's conversion facility at Port Hope represents 25% of the western world's uranium hexafluoride (UF6) conversion capacity, and is the only commercial supplier of fuel-grade natural UO2, used to fabricate fuel bundles for CANDUs around the world. 85% of Canada's uranium production is exported. Canada is a member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), and concludes bilateral safeguards agreements with customer countries as a precondition for nuclear trade.


yet Canada behaves as if it is not interested in nuclear power ...
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Jun 20, 2014 6:17 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pedalguy59: He is the Liberal leader.


yes, unfortunately.
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Jun 20, 2014 6:20 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pedalguy59: He is the Liberal leader.


too young and inexperienced, IMO
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Jun 20, 2014 6:23 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
A_Non_A_Moose: So, may I ask,...would the world freak out if Canada armed itself in a nuclear capacity? At less than 40 million strong (but with world-class soldiers), with unbelievable resources, many of which are quite suitable for the creation of fissionable weapons grade material), an ESTABLISHED nuclear (for power only) reactor program,....uh....why should we lag behind North Korea? Doesn't the world trust us not to unleash armagedon,....e ven if the USA REFUSES to relinquish the Stanley Cup back to its "home"(Yes, I know,...its a North American,...I mean Canada/US trophy),......

Should we back-bacon eating hosers be trusted with the energy of the atom? (and remember,it is always easier for us to "beg" for forgiveness, than to "ask" for permission!)

Signed, the next Prime Minister of Canuckville, just waiting to get a button to push,....


sorry to hijack your thread moose. us Ontarians are loudmouths!
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Jun 20, 2014 10:09 AM CST Canada - NWS #6?
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
equiya: sorry to hijack your thread moose. us Ontarians are loudmouths!


LOL! No need to apologize! The more the merrier, and in a way, discussion of which party and leader should run this country (and the platforms they stand upon) are somewhat related to the thread!

PS - I have been to Ontario,...many, many times,....love the province and its people,....but sheesh,...it takes forever to drive across (What lake is that? Superior the map says,.....fourteen hours later,....what lake is that? Superior the map says,....rolling on the floor laughing )
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