Probing Proverbs 10:31-32: It’s the”Cause” that causes the effect! (76)
Theresa4tgl: Thanks for the question and I hope I can clear this deception up. The Quran does say "kill them wherever you find them" and that's often how people quote it but look at the verse before and after and you'll see a whole new story:
A true believer of the Quran will kill any non believer as ordered and commanded by Muhammad. They are instructed to follow the orders by Muhammad. If they don't, they too will be killed and it is why they have so many problems....and get everyone else's involved in it too. There are at least 109 verses that command to kill non believers and anyone who leaves the Islamist faith having announced they will follow. Now,there are those born into families who never publicly announced giving their lives to Allah that are not supposed to be killed because they joined a different faith...but the again....they can and will eventually of they are in the controlling environment of Islamic believer be killed. As per the Quran....
“Fight in the cause of Allah those who FIGHT YOU, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever you catch them and drive them out from whence they drove you out, for TERRORISM is WORSE than killing. But do not engage in combat with them at the sacred mosque unless they engage you in combat there. But if they combat against you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And combat them on until there is no more terrorism or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. But if THEY CEASE, don't let there be hostility except to those who practice oppression.”
[Surah al-Baqarah: 190-193They called Jesus the on,y perfect prophet....yet with ugly in their hearts they kill for Muhammad disregarding EVERYTHING Jesus showed by actions.
With this being said...as in the book of Daniel from the bible...where it says truths have been hid and will be revealed...if it Shows Jesus said to follow Muhammad...I'll probably become Atheist
Ever read the book of Mary! Peter...who is supposed to be the founding father of the Catholic Church before Constantinople...hated the fact the Mary Magdalene and Jesus were closer than he and Jesus. Many don't know that because the Jews called him Rabbi.....as it is shown in the writings....that actually me at he was married and had children. Back then...a rabbi must be married and with children...having their families following a righteous way...setting the living example to their followers of how to live...
Food for thought...
A true believer of the Quran will kill any non believer as ordered and commanded by Muhammad. They are instructed to follow the orders by Muhammad. If they don't, they too will be killed and it is why they have so many problems....and get everyone else's involved in it too. There are at least 109 verses that command to kill non believers and anyone who leaves the Islamist faith having announced they will follow. Now,there are those born into families who never publicly announced giving their lives to Allah that are not supposed to be killed because they joined a different faith...but the again....they can and will eventually of they are in the controlling environment of Islamic believer be killed. As per the Quran....
“Fight in the cause of Allah those who FIGHT YOU, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever you catch them and drive them out from whence they drove you out, for TERRORISM is WORSE than killing. But do not engage in combat with them at the sacred mosque unless they engage you in combat there. But if they combat against you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And combat them on until there is no more terrorism or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. But if THEY CEASE, don't let there be hostility except to those who practice oppression.”
[Surah al-Baqarah: 190-193They called Jesus the on,y perfect prophet....yet with ugly in their hearts they kill for Muhammad disregarding EVERYTHING Jesus showed by actions.
With this being said...as in the book of Daniel from the bible...where it says truths have been hid and will be revealed...if it Shows Jesus said to follow Muhammad...I'll probably become Atheist
Ever read the book of Mary! Peter...who is supposed to be the founding father of the Catholic Church before Constantinople...hated the fact the Mary Magdalene and Jesus were closer than he and Jesus. Many don't know that because the Jews called him Rabbi.....as it is shown in the writings....that actually me at he was married and had children. Back then...a rabbi must be married and with children...having their families following a righteous way...setting the living example to their followers of how to live...
Food for thought...
This smells of anti Islam. I would like to know your definition of
Religious Zealots though.
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Ccincy: Correction:Meant to say when my father passed away and when I buried my mother.
Ccincy: “That's where Respect falls into place.I've seen too too many of these kinds of threads go negative.
I've never needed to read the Bible nor sit inside a church to have someone tell me how I should conduct myself.
While tracing my roots so to speak I found out that most if not all of my ancestry including my parents were of the Catholic faith.My mother had me baptized when I was 9 years of age and I even attended a Catholic school during some of my grand school age and attended church prior to school starting.As I reached 16 and went out on my own I decided that I didn't need religion to show me right from wrong cause my mother had already done that when I was a kid.I've only been in a Catholic church twice in my lifetime and that is when I buried both my parents.As I posted early on I have had plenty a conversation with religious people and we don't try to shove anothers beliefs or disbeliefs down each others throats.”
I can respect this...however CC.....no one forced non believers to come to this thread and make y'all be a part of it. This is a religious thread. We are sharing what "we" believe and understand to one another. And it's wrong...very wrong honey for non believers to come on to theses threads and participate to tell us we should not be sharing with like minded people. We don't discourage questions, and we don't mind sharing what we understand. But we also don't like being told we a cramming down y'all's throats something we never told you you had to participate in either.
It's simple! As much as we love y'all and want to share with y'all....if y'all don't want to hear it, understand what we mean by it and ask questions without telling us we can't share with one another the. Don't participate at all!
That's like going into someone else's home that has a different believe system and
at them in their home telling them to only talk about what you say they should...Did you do that to you parents!?
and girl...I'm no fan of the catholic sect...and many others! But I'd never go to a thread that someone created and tell them I shouldn't have to be a part of hearing...listening...or reading what is being said and accuse it of being forced on me. Once I participate....I volunteered and I better be ready for what they will say. And that goes for every thread...------ This thread is Archived ------
pedalguy59: This smells of anti Islam. I would like to know your definition of
Religious Zealots though.
Religious Zealots though.
And what if I am anti islam!? Many here want to be anti Christian! Throwing up the Old Testament all the time! Islam follows to a T the Mosaic Laws! Why shouldn't I be against a barbaric way of life?
Before the Ayatollah Khomeini ruled back in 1979.....the Mosaic Laws were not enforced in most of the Arab nations. They lived just like us here! Now....Muhammad's laws of following the old time religion is to be enforced. Why don't you test this...send your female friends and gay friends over there being themselves and see what happens. They'll be killed is what will happen....
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Quoteing Theresa:I can respect this...however CC.....no one forced non believers to come to this thread and make y'all be a part of it. This is a religious thread. We are sharing what "we" believe and understand to one another. And it's wrong...very wrong honey for non believers to come on to theses threads and participate to tell us we should not be sharing with like minded people. We don't discourage questions, and we don't mind sharing what we understand. But we also don't like being told we a cramming down y'all's throats something we never told you you had to participate in either.
It's simple! As much as we love y'all and want to share with y'all....if y'all don't want to hear it, understand what we mean by it and ask questions without telling us we can't share with one another the. Don't participate at all!
That's like going into someone else's home that has a different believe system and barf at them in their home telling them to only talk about what you say they should...
Did you do that to you parents!?confused and girl...I'm no fan of the catholic sect...and many others! But I'd never go to a thread that someone created and tell them I shouldn't have to be a part of hearing...listening...or reading what is being said and accuse it of being forced on me. Once I participate....I volunteered and I better be ready for what they will say. And that goes for every thread.
Well Theresa,But I'm not the kind of person who enters a religious thread to disrespect someones belief/disbelief.I just think it's so so sad when religious threads most of the time go sour.
No I never showed disrespect towards my parents period about anything.
It's simple! As much as we love y'all and want to share with y'all....if y'all don't want to hear it, understand what we mean by it and ask questions without telling us we can't share with one another the. Don't participate at all!
That's like going into someone else's home that has a different believe system and barf at them in their home telling them to only talk about what you say they should...
Did you do that to you parents!?confused and girl...I'm no fan of the catholic sect...and many others! But I'd never go to a thread that someone created and tell them I shouldn't have to be a part of hearing...listening...or reading what is being said and accuse it of being forced on me. Once I participate....I volunteered and I better be ready for what they will say. And that goes for every thread.
Well Theresa,But I'm not the kind of person who enters a religious thread to disrespect someones belief/disbelief.I just think it's so so sad when religious threads most of the time go sour.
No I never showed disrespect towards my parents period about anything.
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Ccincy: That's where Respect falls into place.I've seen too too many of these kinds of threads go negative.
I've never needed to read the Bible nor sit inside a church to have someone tell me how I should conduct myself.
While tracing my roots so to speak I found out that most if not all of my ancestry including my parents were of the Catholic faith.My mother had me baptized when I was 9 years of age and I even attended a Catholic school during some of my grand school age and attended church prior to school starting.As I reached 16 and went out on my own I decided that I didn't need religion to show me right from wrong cause my mother had already done that when I was a kid.I've only been in a Catholic church twice in my lifetime and that is when I buried both my parents.As I posted early on I have had plenty a conversation with religious people and we don't try to shove anothers beliefs or disbeliefs down each others throats.
I've never needed to read the Bible nor sit inside a church to have someone tell me how I should conduct myself.
While tracing my roots so to speak I found out that most if not all of my ancestry including my parents were of the Catholic faith.My mother had me baptized when I was 9 years of age and I even attended a Catholic school during some of my grand school age and attended church prior to school starting.As I reached 16 and went out on my own I decided that I didn't need religion to show me right from wrong cause my mother had already done that when I was a kid.I've only been in a Catholic church twice in my lifetime and that is when I buried both my parents.As I posted early on I have had plenty a conversation with religious people and we don't try to shove anothers beliefs or disbeliefs down each others throats.
And what was trying to be done here was having a religious conversation...
no one was invited to force our understandings...but we will share them at the cost of being told we are being forced. 
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Theresa4tgl: You need to read the words of Jesus.
God created His body, called it Jesus...came here to SHOW MAN exactly how to live.
Read the letters in red in the bible.....the rest are lessons of how MAN turned a way of life into religion and it wasn't supposed to be used a due exploited to do that.
It's your choice and duty to educated yourself and stop following a man said God said ideology as well as a man said man said ideology. BIG difference...Anyone who focuses on deceptions wanting to only point out ugly things and NOT research properly to seek the truth has an ugly heart
God created His body, called it Jesus...came here to SHOW MAN exactly how to live.
Read the letters in red in the bible.....the rest are lessons of how MAN turned a way of life into religion and it wasn't supposed to be used a due exploited to do that.
It's your choice and duty to educated yourself and stop following a man said God said ideology as well as a man said man said ideology. BIG difference...Anyone who focuses on deceptions wanting to only point out ugly things and NOT research properly to seek the truth has an ugly heart
There is a BIG issue with your arguments. JESUS - IF he lived, did not leave any written word. Everything he supposedly said, was written way later by the men that didn't even know him. So your argument is flawed right from the start. Not to mention, that Gods Mithras, and Horus precedes Jesus, and all three have absolutely exact origin. . . .
I do not deny the wisdom of "his" teachings, yet one can sum them up in one sentence. . . Do not be a duchebag.
You are clearly very religious woman. So be it, what ever helps you sleep at night. The fact of the matter is, that you believe in some fairytale. Not to mention, that your definition of Atheists having a religion to try and confirm your statement is a joke.
You clearly have no idea what atheist means. . . . Religious people like you, don't like their faith challenged, and your arguments are based solely on belief, and religious texts, that are proven to be false by every scientific field. Atheists relish new discoveries, they study theories and opinions from many sides, and then they form an informed opinion. There is no religion here.
Oxford Dictionary - Religion - The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
So tell me, in what deity Atheists believe?
By your own statement, you just said, that religious people have an ugly heart. Because again, it comes down to research, and researching religious writings is not a proper, scientific, open minded research. It is just seeking excuses that would support whatever belief a person has.
In the end, I can also say, that despite the fact I completely disagree with most of what you wrote. . . . I can respect the fact, that you abhor any kind of religion.
I find religion to be enslaving people's minds, hearts and souls.
Back in the days when Rome ruled, everyone was put to death for murdering a persons being/name because it murdered their ability to be seen as trust worthy and getting what they needed in life. Every religious person had to be brought up in front of the Roman empires courts and tried!!- - - - Wrong, this is absolutely false and wrong. You say you read and research and study. Then study history, and study also Ancient Roman Criminal law as I did. ( For the book I am writing ).
Romans didn't care what or who you worshipped, as long as you respected their laws, and paid taxes, you were allowed to worship whom ever you wanted.
Christians actually were killing people for their beliefs, not Romans. There is 2000 years of history, that shows the true face of Christianity.
Atheists have no right to participate. Are you kidding me
? We should, and we will participate, because if we do not, then very fast the world turns back to dark ages. Because religious people would hide behind their scriptures, what ever they might be, and bring back the inquisition. Not to mention, that upper case letters in your posts do not make your arguments any more valid. You are accusing atheists of not understanding your beliefs. We understand very well, and we don't need upper case letters to make a point, because our points are based on the study of History, Psychology, Sociology, Cosmology, Mythology, Mysticism, Reading religious texts, Science. . . Then we form our arguments.------ This thread is Archived ------
Theresa4tgl: And what was trying to be done here was having a religious conversation... no one was invited to force our understandings...but we will share them at the cost of being told we are being forced.
Thresea you need to go back and reread all of my comments within this thread.
I wasn't referring to anyone here.I was referring to people that I have known.
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Ccincy: Quoteing Theresa:I can respect this...however CC.....no one forced non believers to come to this thread and make y'all be a part of it. This is a religious thread. We are sharing what "we" believe and understand to one another. And it's wrong...very wrong honey for non believers to come on to theses threads and participate to tell us we should not be sharing with like minded people. We don't discourage questions, and we don't mind sharing what we understand. But we also don't like being told we a cramming down y'all's throats something we never told you you had to participate in either.
It's simple! As much as we love y'all and want to share with y'all....if y'all don't want to hear it, understand what we mean by it and ask questions without telling us we can't share with one another the. Don't participate at all!
That's like going into someone else's home that has a different believe system and barf at them in their home telling them to only talk about what you say they should...
Did you do that to you parents!?confused and girl...I'm no fan of the catholic sect...and many others! But I'd never go to a thread that someone created and tell them I shouldn't have to be a part of hearing...listening...or reading what is being said and accuse it of being forced on me. Once I participate....I volunteered and I better be ready for what they will say. And that goes for every thread.Well Theresa,But I'm not the kind of person who enters a religious thread to disrespect someones belief/disbelief.I just think it's so so sad when religious threads most of the time go sour.No I never showed disrespect towards my parents period about anything.
It's simple! As much as we love y'all and want to share with y'all....if y'all don't want to hear it, understand what we mean by it and ask questions without telling us we can't share with one another the. Don't participate at all!
That's like going into someone else's home that has a different believe system and barf at them in their home telling them to only talk about what you say they should...
Did you do that to you parents!?confused and girl...I'm no fan of the catholic sect...and many others! But I'd never go to a thread that someone created and tell them I shouldn't have to be a part of hearing...listening...or reading what is being said and accuse it of being forced on me. Once I participate....I volunteered and I better be ready for what they will say. And that goes for every thread.Well Theresa,But I'm not the kind of person who enters a religious thread to disrespect someones belief/disbelief.I just think it's so so sad when religious threads most of the time go sour.No I never showed disrespect towards my parents period about anything.
Lovey...it didn't go sour!!
Just because,there's a disagreement doesn't mean it's gone sour. What's bad is if those who came on this thread bullying us telling us we have no right to share and they don't want to hear it and we stopped because their views superseded what we wanted to share made us fearful and stopped!
Not one Atheist understands the verse that was given by the thread of this author. King James screwed up a lot of stuff along with Constantinople.
Proverbs 10:31-11:12
31 The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom,
but the perverse tongue will be cut off.
32 The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable,
but the mouth of the wicked what is perverse.
Righteous is another way of saying yes pure in heart...but it is also a way of saying someone who educates themselves fully in a matter. Which makes them a wise person. I don't see how,that is bad honestly!
A perverse tongue isn't just cussing...it's one who speaks with out knowledge...
Wicked doesn't mean just hatful spiteful people.....it also means those who flat out refuse to learn, listen, and pay attention to what's being shared too
And the truth is...I think all of us make this mistake.
Jesus clearly says not to be a follower of,what others instruct us to believe. To study...and he never said the King James Bible. However, up,until I'd say the last ummm....19 years....that's all we had to study because yes, the Catholic Church on,y permitted that knowledge. Thank God for libraries, internet, and ALLLLLLLLL those who had courage to share TRTUH....not religion but truth.
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Ccincy: Thresea you need to go back and reread all of my comments within this thread.
I wasn't referring to anyone here.I was referring to people that I have known.
I wasn't referring to anyone here.I was referring to people that I have known.
Sorry for the miss understanding...got caught in the passion...
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Theresa4tgl: Lovey...it didn't go sour!!
Just because,there's a disagreement doesn't mean it's gone sour. What's bad is if those who came on this thread bullying us telling us we have no right to share and they don't want to hear it and we stopped because their views superseded what we wanted to share made us fearful and stopped! Not one Atheist understands the verse that was given by the thread of this author. King James screwed up a lot of stuff along with Constantinople.
Proverbs 10:31-11:12
31 The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom,
but the perverse tongue will be cut off.
32 The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable,
but the mouth of the wicked what is perverse.
Righteous is another way of saying yes pure in heart...but it is also a way of saying someone who educates themselves fully in a matter. Which makes them a wise person. I don't see how,that is bad honestly!
A perverse tongue isn't just cussing...it's one who speaks with out knowledge...
Wicked doesn't mean just hatful spiteful people.....it also means those who flat out refuse to learn, listen, and pay attention to what's being shared too
And the truth is...I think all of us make this mistake.
Jesus clearly says not to be a follower of,what others instruct us to believe. To study...and he never said the King James Bible. However, up,until I'd say the last ummm....19 years....that's all we had to study because yes, the Catholic Church on,y permitted that knowledge. Thank God for libraries, internet, and ALLLLLLLLL those who had courage to share TRTUH....not religion but truth.
Just because,there's a disagreement doesn't mean it's gone sour. What's bad is if those who came on this thread bullying us telling us we have no right to share and they don't want to hear it and we stopped because their views superseded what we wanted to share made us fearful and stopped! Not one Atheist understands the verse that was given by the thread of this author. King James screwed up a lot of stuff along with Constantinople.
Proverbs 10:31-11:12
31 The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom,
but the perverse tongue will be cut off.
32 The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable,
but the mouth of the wicked what is perverse.
Righteous is another way of saying yes pure in heart...but it is also a way of saying someone who educates themselves fully in a matter. Which makes them a wise person. I don't see how,that is bad honestly!
A perverse tongue isn't just cussing...it's one who speaks with out knowledge...
Wicked doesn't mean just hatful spiteful people.....it also means those who flat out refuse to learn, listen, and pay attention to what's being shared too
And the truth is...I think all of us make this mistake.
Jesus clearly says not to be a follower of,what others instruct us to believe. To study...and he never said the King James Bible. However, up,until I'd say the last ummm....19 years....that's all we had to study because yes, the Catholic Church on,y permitted that knowledge. Thank God for libraries, internet, and ALLLLLLLLL those who had courage to share TRTUH....not religion but truth.
Truth - - - According to who? To Jesus, and what he "said". . . .
Simple question. How do you know that "He" said it?
How many times priests were preaching, and people like you. . . God / Jesus said this and that, just to support their misguided beliefs.
Righteous. . . According to who? What is righteous?
I call it Self - righteous bigotry.
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Theresa4tgl: Sorry for the miss understanding...got caught in the passion...
I am passionate about certain things too but I don't allow my passion to take control.
I have a former sis in law who is a very very religious and political lady but I have always shown respect for her and her me.
It all goes back to being "Respectful".
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Im. It denying the teaching of other gods or goddesses. Never said I did....
I do not deny the wisdom of "his" teachings, yet one can sum them up in one sentence. . . Do not be a duchebag....and that's a ver simply way of saying it! Don't you wish you would have been around back then to teach them the simpler way?
You say.....You clearly have no idea what atheist means. . . . Religious people like you, don't like their faith challenged, and your arguments are based solely on belief, and religious texts, that are proven to be false by every scientific field. Atheists relish new discoveries, they study theories and opinions from many sides, and then they form an informed opinion. There is no religion here....please make your mind up....science shows more than want you want to see regarding biblical facts....we love how science is proving much of the history of the bible. We love how God created the laws of Pysics, attraction, and gravity...lol. We call it faith and prayer...science helped us to understand better.
Oxford Dictionary - Religion - The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Screw Oxford.....bwahahahahaaaa! That school has produced more self righteous, filthy rich, stoning, judgmental hypocrites than any school on this earth.
You asked.....So tell me, in what deity Atheists believe?......they believe they are the all knowing beings of the universe and on,y they know all the answers and everyone else is wrong. They are their own all knowing deity.
You said.....By your own statement, you just said, that religious people have an ugly heart. Because again, it comes down to research, and researching religious writings is not a proper, scientific, open minded research. It is just seeking excuses that would support whatever belief a person has. And.....You said....In the end, I can also say, that despite the fact I completely disagree with most of what you wrote. . . . I can respect the fact, that you abhor any kind of religion....is mankind not to evolve!? Religion is NO LONGER. Considered a controlling way of life by a god, goddess or gods. It is now considered an group with a believe system. In order to move forward EVERYONE must evolve...and let go of the past mistakes...even atheists must let go.
You said...."Romans didn't care what or who you worshipped, as long as you respected their laws, and paid taxes, you were allowed to worship whom ever you wanted. " and you are right! Lying about someone was punishable by death for murdering/destroying a persons life. Today we sue people for,that and take,their riches...
You said....Christians actually were killing people for their beliefs, not Romans. There is 2000 years of history, that shows the true face of Christianity....religious zealots did that in the name if Jesus...a follower of Jesus did Not!
You said.....Atheists have no right to participate. Are you kidding me ? We
Reread what I've said. I didn't say you didn't have a right....you've twisted words.
I do not deny the wisdom of "his" teachings, yet one can sum them up in one sentence. . . Do not be a duchebag....and that's a ver simply way of saying it! Don't you wish you would have been around back then to teach them the simpler way?
You say.....You clearly have no idea what atheist means. . . . Religious people like you, don't like their faith challenged, and your arguments are based solely on belief, and religious texts, that are proven to be false by every scientific field. Atheists relish new discoveries, they study theories and opinions from many sides, and then they form an informed opinion. There is no religion here....please make your mind up....science shows more than want you want to see regarding biblical facts....we love how science is proving much of the history of the bible. We love how God created the laws of Pysics, attraction, and gravity...lol. We call it faith and prayer...science helped us to understand better.
Oxford Dictionary - Religion - The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Screw Oxford.....bwahahahahaaaa! That school has produced more self righteous, filthy rich, stoning, judgmental hypocrites than any school on this earth.
You asked.....So tell me, in what deity Atheists believe?......they believe they are the all knowing beings of the universe and on,y they know all the answers and everyone else is wrong. They are their own all knowing deity.
You said.....By your own statement, you just said, that religious people have an ugly heart. Because again, it comes down to research, and researching religious writings is not a proper, scientific, open minded research. It is just seeking excuses that would support whatever belief a person has. And.....You said....In the end, I can also say, that despite the fact I completely disagree with most of what you wrote. . . . I can respect the fact, that you abhor any kind of religion....is mankind not to evolve!? Religion is NO LONGER. Considered a controlling way of life by a god, goddess or gods. It is now considered an group with a believe system. In order to move forward EVERYONE must evolve...and let go of the past mistakes...even atheists must let go.
You said...."Romans didn't care what or who you worshipped, as long as you respected their laws, and paid taxes, you were allowed to worship whom ever you wanted. " and you are right! Lying about someone was punishable by death for murdering/destroying a persons life. Today we sue people for,that and take,their riches...
You said....Christians actually were killing people for their beliefs, not Romans. There is 2000 years of history, that shows the true face of Christianity....religious zealots did that in the name if Jesus...a follower of Jesus did Not!
You said.....Atheists have no right to participate. Are you kidding me ? We
Reread what I've said. I didn't say you didn't have a right....you've twisted words.
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Theresa4tgl: Im. It denying the teaching of other gods or goddesses. Never said I did....
I do not deny the wisdom of "his" teachings, yet one can sum them up in one sentence. . . Do not be a duchebag....and that's a ver simply way of saying it! Don't you wish you would have been around back then to teach them the simpler way?
You say.....You clearly have no idea what atheist means. . . . Religious people like you, don't like their faith challenged, and your arguments are based solely on belief, and religious texts, that are proven to be false by every scientific field. Atheists relish new discoveries, they study theories and opinions from many sides, and then they form an informed opinion. There is no religion here....please make your mind up....science shows more than want you want to see regarding biblical facts....we love how science is proving much of the history of the bible. We love how God created the laws of Pysics, attraction, and gravity...lol. We call it faith and prayer...science helped us to understand better.
Oxford Dictionary - Religion - The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Screw Oxford.....bwahahahahaaaa! That school has produced more self righteous, filthy rich, stoning, judgmental hypocrites than any school on this earth.
You asked.....So tell me, in what deity Atheists believe?......they believe they are the all knowing beings of the universe and on,y they know all the answers and everyone else is wrong. They are their own all knowing deity.
You said.....By your own statement, you just said, that religious people have an ugly heart. Because again, it comes down to research, and researching religious writings is not a proper, scientific, open minded research. It is just seeking excuses that would support whatever belief a person has. And.....You said....In the end, I can also say, that despite the fact I completely disagree with most of what you wrote. . . . I can respect the fact, that you abhor any kind of religion....is mankind not to evolve!? Religion is NO LONGER. Considered a controlling way of life by a god, goddess or gods. It is now considered an group with a believe system. In order to move forward EVERYONE must evolve...and let go of the past mistakes...even atheists must let go.
You said...."Romans didn't care what or who you worshipped, as long as you respected their laws, and paid taxes, you were allowed to worship whom ever you wanted. " and you are right! Lying about someone was punishable by death for murdering/destroying a persons life. Today we sue people for,that and take,their riches...
You said....Christians actually were killing people for their beliefs, not Romans. There is 2000 years of history, that shows the true face of Christianity....religious zealots did that in the name if Jesus...a follower of Jesus did Not!
You said.....Atheists have no right to participate. Are you kidding me ? We
Reread what I've said. I didn't say you didn't have a right....you've twisted words.
I do not deny the wisdom of "his" teachings, yet one can sum them up in one sentence. . . Do not be a duchebag....and that's a ver simply way of saying it! Don't you wish you would have been around back then to teach them the simpler way?
You say.....You clearly have no idea what atheist means. . . . Religious people like you, don't like their faith challenged, and your arguments are based solely on belief, and religious texts, that are proven to be false by every scientific field. Atheists relish new discoveries, they study theories and opinions from many sides, and then they form an informed opinion. There is no religion here....please make your mind up....science shows more than want you want to see regarding biblical facts....we love how science is proving much of the history of the bible. We love how God created the laws of Pysics, attraction, and gravity...lol. We call it faith and prayer...science helped us to understand better.
Oxford Dictionary - Religion - The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Screw Oxford.....bwahahahahaaaa! That school has produced more self righteous, filthy rich, stoning, judgmental hypocrites than any school on this earth.
You asked.....So tell me, in what deity Atheists believe?......they believe they are the all knowing beings of the universe and on,y they know all the answers and everyone else is wrong. They are their own all knowing deity.
You said.....By your own statement, you just said, that religious people have an ugly heart. Because again, it comes down to research, and researching religious writings is not a proper, scientific, open minded research. It is just seeking excuses that would support whatever belief a person has. And.....You said....In the end, I can also say, that despite the fact I completely disagree with most of what you wrote. . . . I can respect the fact, that you abhor any kind of religion....is mankind not to evolve!? Religion is NO LONGER. Considered a controlling way of life by a god, goddess or gods. It is now considered an group with a believe system. In order to move forward EVERYONE must evolve...and let go of the past mistakes...even atheists must let go.
You said...."Romans didn't care what or who you worshipped, as long as you respected their laws, and paid taxes, you were allowed to worship whom ever you wanted. " and you are right! Lying about someone was punishable by death for murdering/destroying a persons life. Today we sue people for,that and take,their riches...
You said....Christians actually were killing people for their beliefs, not Romans. There is 2000 years of history, that shows the true face of Christianity....religious zealots did that in the name if Jesus...a follower of Jesus did Not!
You said.....Atheists have no right to participate. Are you kidding me ? We
Reread what I've said. I didn't say you didn't have a right....you've twisted words.
I didn't twist your words. I read all your posts, and all you did, was to copy my post and that is it. . . I think that I will refrain to say anything more. I got better things to do.
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54xmax: I didn't twist your words. I read all your posts, and all you did, was to copy my post and that is it. . . I think that I will refrain to say anything more. I got better things to do.
Oh...forgive me for copying it so I could keep up with your long winded comments like mine trying to answer them. That was wrong wasn't it!?
You can always tell when some one can't answer something.......and gets embarrassed and frustrated over being challenged....
Thanks for,the challenge! Tootles!
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Ccincy: Theresa I'm not perfect either and have tons of flaws and if I were to go to confess my sins the sky would probably fall on me. I had someone tell me that I was way to honest.I took one look at them and said that if I tell the truth then I never have to have a very good memory.
girl I understand that one!! I've been told the same thing. It is looked upon as my downfall unless I'm defending that person... ------ This thread is Archived ------
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I've never needed to read the Bible nor sit inside a church to have someone tell me how I should conduct myself.
While tracing my roots so to speak I found out that most if not all of my ancestry including my parents were of the Catholic faith.My mother had me baptized when I was 9 years of age and I even attended a Catholic school during some of my grand school age and attended church prior to school starting.As I reached 16 and went out on my own I decided that I didn't need religion to show me right from wrong cause my mother had already done that when I was a kid.I've only been in a Catholic church twice in my lifetime and that is when I buried both my parents.As I posted early on I have had plenty a conversation with religious people and we don't try to shove anothers beliefs or disbeliefs down each others throats.
Correction:Meant to say when my father passed away and when I buried my mother.