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OgGoDeo: ....If the reasons you give for there being so many young men amongst the migrants these reasons do, in my opinion, open up other questions.....if their reason for leaving women, children and old people behind to fend for themselves against ISIS but that they intend sending for them when they get settled in their new country does this mean that the quota of migrants who are being allotted to different countries is indeed only a tiny fraction of the figures who will end up living there?.... Will they be asked at the borders how many more family members will be joining them so that countries can take this into account when providing accommodation etc?.....why if the vast majority of these young men are indeed Syrian refugees are about 70% of them arriving at borders without any passports or identification?... What have they to hide if they are indeed refugees from Syria?....it is my opinion that a large majority of them are not from Syria at all and believe that by not having passports or id they would stand a better chance of claiming refugee status....I do agree with you that it was horrendous what happened the Native Americans but this was not inititated by the Irish in the first place.....I can understand the comparison between the coffin ships on which many thousands of Irish perished and the plight of the migrants in the awful tragedies that have befallen some of them.....as I have said already Europe should, of course, help GENUINE refugees but there will be a tremendous amount of unrest if huge groups of young men arrive in countries where their expectation of a better life possibly does not come to fruition if cities and towns across Europe find themselves overwhelmed by the entire fiasco....
Define a genuine refugee. What does it take to be considered that? A war maybe, and being up against technical advancements that can not be compared to anything we have known before? (I keep hearing they should fight.. with what? With what would we fight bombers over head, machine guns.. when most of us don't own much more past a butter knife to be considered a weapon?)
I don't know if you have children, and among them sons. I do have 2, and I could see them heading off to first find a place and then try get the rest of our family, especially those of us who'd not be fit enough to survive an uncertain journey. My mother does not live any more, but the other grandmother is a woman now of 70 with hip problems. Some of us would stay behind to try our best to look after those who could not travel like this, hoping we'd survive long enough to get news the boys made it to safety and are now moving heaven and earth to get us too.
Oh my yes, this could mean even more desperate people whose lives seem to be worth less than ours, because. because.. oh yes, because they have a different culture and belief!
Would we fuss as much if Belgians would be on the run? I wonder...
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- at the moment, the Hungarian border got a lot of coverage, ie the confrontations. You would not see women and children in such footage, they will have moved well away very fast
- some may have been given what the family could afford, in a bet to get one of their sons out to a friendly country, able bodied and thus with a better chance to make that journey, in hopes that once the young men have reached safety, they will get a chance to find ways to bring their families over without them having to ride tiny boats and in uncertainty of where to find shelter on the way
- fear of being drawn into the violent conflict, which would speak in favour of many of them not being violent and trying to avoid having to pick up arms
I am highly suspicious of what leads to these wars and why some people are left to starve in African nations, with no call to take them in, but this does not mean I do not feel for those who I watch fleeing, because we do know there IS war, unless we wish to say that's all false, no war there, Hollywood fake fighting shown to us, but no matter how suspicious I can be, I don't know the war there is a media lie.
Irish people and many people in Europe fled bad social conditions, aiding the demise of the Native American way of life. Were those Irish young men in the wrong too, when they tried to seek a chance to build a life away from oppression and little hope? Do we not feel sympathy when confronted with their history, even though it did mean devastation for Native tribes (a danger we are not facing)?
As I said over and over, I hate what is happening and question motives behind it, but not the motives of those fleeing, or their rightful claim to our sympathy and aid.