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Jan 16, 2023 2:50 PM CST Bored later?
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
yep.
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Jan 16, 2023 2:52 PM CST Bored later?
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: yep.
I'm sleeping sitting up and typing...not quite ready yet I guess...spewing nonsense...
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Jan 16, 2023 2:58 PM CST Bored later?
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
everything is true, false and meaningless in some sense or context.
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Jan 16, 2023 3:00 PM CST Bored later?
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: everything is true, false and meaningless in some sense or context.
I'm broad / open minded, sometimes still need proof, where my imagination did not give me the full pic...
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Jan 16, 2023 3:05 PM CST Bored later?
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts


Suppose Atalanta wishes to walk to the end of a path. Before she can get there, she must get halfway there. Before she can get halfway there, she must get a quarter of the way there. Before traveling a quarter, she must travel one-eighth; before an eighth, one-sixteenth; and so on.
This description requires one to complete an infinite number of tasks, which Zeno maintains is an impossibility.

This sequence also presents a second problem in that it contains no first distance to run, for any possible (finite) first distance could be divided in half, and hence would not be first after all. Hence, the trip cannot even begin. The paradoxical conclusion then would be that travel over any finite distance can be neither completed nor begun, and so all motion must be an illusion

n the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise, Achilles is in a footrace with the tortoise. Achilles allows the tortoise a head start of 100 meters, for example. Suppose that each racer starts running at some constant speed, one faster than the other. After some finite time, Achilles will have run 100 meters, bringing him to the tortoise's starting point. During this time, the tortoise has run a much shorter distance, say 2 meters. It will then take Achilles some further time to run that distance, by which time the tortoise will have advanced farther; and then more time still to reach this third point, while the tortoise moves ahead. Thus, whenever Achilles arrives somewhere the tortoise has been, he still has some distance to go before he can even reach the tortoise.
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Jan 16, 2023 3:39 PM CST Bored later?
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes

Suppose Atalanta wishes to walk to the end of a path. Before she can get there, she must get halfway there. Before she can get halfway there, she must get a quarter of the way there. Before traveling a quarter, she must travel one-eighth; before an eighth, one-sixteenth; and so on.
This description requires one to complete an infinite number of tasks, which Zeno maintains is an impossibility.

This sequence also presents a second problem in that it contains no first distance to run, for any possible (finite) first distance could be divided in half, and hence would not be first after all. Hence, the trip cannot even begin. The paradoxical conclusion then would be that travel over any finite distance can be neither completed nor begun, and so all motion must be an illusion

n the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise, Achilles is in a footrace with the tortoise. Achilles allows the tortoise a head start of 100 meters, for example. Suppose that each racer starts running at some constant speed, one faster than the other. After some finite time, Achilles will have run 100 meters, bringing him to the tortoise's starting point. During this time, the tortoise has run a much shorter distance, say 2 meters. It will then take Achilles some further time to run that distance, by which time the tortoise will have advanced farther; and then more time still to reach this third point, while the tortoise moves ahead. Thus, whenever Achilles arrives somewhere the tortoise has been, he still has some distance to go before he can even reach the tortoise.
GullyFoyle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes

Suppose Atalanta wishes to walk to the end of a path. Before she can get there, she must get halfway there. Before she can get halfway there, she must get a quarter of the way there. Before traveling a quarter, she must travel one-eighth; before an eighth, one-sixteenth; and so on.
This description requires one to complete an infinite number of tasks, which Zeno maintains is an impossibility.

This sequence also presents a second problem in that it contains no first distance to run, for any possible (finite) first distance could be divided in half, and hence would not be first after all. Hence, the trip cannot even begin. The paradoxical conclusion then would be that travel over any finite distance can be neither completed nor begun, and so all motion must be an illusion

n the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise, Achilles is in a footrace with the tortoise. Achilles allows the tortoise a head start of 100 meters, for example. Suppose that each racer starts running at some constant speed, one faster than the other. After some finite time, Achilles will have run 100 meters, bringing him to the tortoise's starting point. During this time, the tortoise has run a much shorter distance, say 2 meters. It will then take Achilles some further time to run that distance, by which time the tortoise will have advanced farther; and then more time still to reach this third point, while the tortoise moves ahead. Thus, whenever Achilles arrives somewhere the tortoise has been, he still has some distance to go before he can even reach the tortoise.
Why do you have to bore me Soooo much...
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GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
That is what I think about to make it through my day.
Subjective relationship with existence.
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