Wolfowitz's bit of Crumpet ( Archived) (45)

Is the forum police or big brother

....and here I was rather enjoying reading this forum, and it degenerates into juvenile tantrums....nothing on here called for those remarks...and both had some good things to say.....oh well, happy trails....

I beg to differ Sir, but the *only conservative* candidate is being cencored/completely ignored by the main stream media: that candidate is Ron Paul (R. Tex). Dr. Paul is the *only* truly conservative candidate running from *any* party. He writes columns on the internet, so I'd suggest doing some searches on him. Many of the colums he posts are speaches he's made on the floor of the House. Do some research on Dr. Paul, I think you'll find him very refreshing.

PS: the term "conservative republican" is an oxymoron just as is the term "conservative democrat", or "liberal republican" & "liberal democrat". The two parties are just two sides of the same coin. All pretense of "opposition" or "dissent" is to distract, and confuse the voters so that both "parties" can acheive an agenda that was agreed upon before whatever the issue is was brought up in the first place. Maybe that sounds cynical, but I'm a student of history & politics, and both prove that outlook upon government & politics to be the truth.

Paul Wolfowitz is not the first war criminal to have served as the president of the World Bank. That distinction belongs to one of his predecessor, Robert McNamara, former U.S. Defense Secretary during the Vietnam War. After his job in Pentagon, he too headed the World Bank, without feeling too much remorse for the slaughter of Vietnamese peasants, women and children, napalming that country, as well as bringing the world to brink of nuclear war during the Cuban crisis. Years later, McNamara offered something apologized"but never to the Vietnamese, only to the Americans for causing them so much pain and suffering.

Wolfowitz may or may not have to offer resignation for his personal corruption and nepotism to advance the salary of his mistress,

That´s again the the cheap way out proticting a Criminal !!!

Should not progressive activists world-wide seek to punish him for first-order crimes of war of aggression rather than his fourth-order crimes?
It has been said that perhaps outside of Pentagon, he is less dangerous to the world and to humanity.

But it is a bad morals and practical politics to have a war criminal directly responsible for planning and directing a major war of aggression head an international financial institution.
Moreover, while the Bank does not command nuclear weapons and tanks, it yield enormous political and economic influence in developing countries.
Therfore it is essential that war criminals should not be allowed to head global public financial institutions.!!!!!!!!

"But it is a bad morals and practical politics to have a war criminal directly responsible for planning and directing a major war of aggression head an international financial institution.
Moreover, while the Bank does not command nuclear weapons and tanks, it yield enormous political and economic influence in developing countries.
Therfore it is essential that war criminals should not be allowed to head global public financial institutions.!!!!!!!!"

Ma'am,

I suggest that you take a more thorough study of histroy, and especially study history from an economic point of view (and I do *not* mean from a marxist class warfare point of view). If you do, you will find that *all* wars are driven by economics without exception no matter what the propaganda reason for the war is/was. What is occuring today is no different, it's driven by economics, and for that reason you find Wolfowitz in charge of the abomination called the world bank. It's a very complex issue, and it takes a fair amount of research to understand it, but the information is out there if you're willing to research it. I'll tell you this though, you will not find the answers in public school *history* books or in the popular media. You'll have to find it on you're on from other sources, but the information is there if you're willing to look for it.

Sir, I thank you for the suggestions - but you know we here in Europe believe all what Media tells us and the most information we have on the US or world politic is taken from FOX TV AND CNN NEW .. do you think we are not well informed over here ??

Actually, at least in current events, y'all are probably far better informed that the vast majority of Americans, it's the historical context in which you are lacking, but again not nearly as much so as in America. One thing you should take into consideration though is that *your* governments, like *all* governments propagandize as well. Therefore, you're outlook is skewed towards whatever propaganda your governmet happens to be spewing at the moment, just as *most* Americans opinions are skewed by the propaganda their government is spewing as well.

I for one, do not rely on any one news source, especially fox news or cnn . Most people though, and this includes Europeans & Americans, are very naive when it comes to government.

I'm not. I know, from experience and study of history, that *all* governments propagandize; no exceptions. I also know that most people want to believe that their government acts in their best intrests, and that this is a very naive belief.

Therefore, again, all I can suggest is a through study of history. Try reading Machivelli, "The Prince" for starters. You'll find that the political tactics/strategies he suggests in that book are employeed by all governments today. The book may be old but the principles are not.

Sir, I hope you did not mind my little joke

Wolfy is sorry now ....

We believe you are sorry Paul - but not for your crimes. You're sorry because you got caught. We are sorry too, Paul. Sorry that people like you, Paul, are running world lending institutions that deliberately gain a stranglehold on the economies of poor nations in Asia, Africa and Latin America, plunging them into prisons of debt that rob them of their own struggling economies, their water, food, health care, education, self-determination and sovereignty through the clever manipulations of institutions like the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the WTO. (As Greg Palast says, the three names are interchangeable).

Paul, we are also sorry that people like you are running powerful military machines that have visited such profound and devastating misery by the wars you concoct in nations like Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine. You're just one who got caught. In your hubris, arrogance and belligerant view of your own entitlement you thought you could get away with your crimes. But this one nailed you. Do you now expect the world to hear your apology, forgive you and let bygones be bygones? Now it is your turn. Just as you and the other architects of the Iraq War have turned on your partners, Rumsfeld and Bush, your brothers will now turn on you. You will be offered up as they distance themselves from you and the cannibalization will continue as others fall from grace after you. Their own descent cannot come too quickly either .

Ma'am,

I do not mind you're little joke in the least bit. Unfortunately perhaps, I've got a *very* dry sense of humor, and did not recognize it as such. Upon reflection though, I do see the humor in it.