True Love (40)
Boy, you really are a deep thinker and I like that. I have to agree with you, that men are far more romantic than women. You are right, a lot of women have a list of things that a man has to live up to (scary) and if they don't fit into one or two of those square holes, out they go. It's really sad that more women don't go with their heart when they experience true love and follow it all the way to the ends of the earth no matter what it takes. I think all of us should do this at least once in our lifetime. Take a chance, don't always do the safe thing, choose the road less taken..... that's what I'm trying to do right now... Good luck to you in finding a women who's willing to do the same.
I agree. However, beware just because you truly fall in love with someone does not mean that they reciprocate the exact same type of love. Or maybe they show their love in ways that you may not relate to. I agree this time around I will be looking for love with a stipulation (sad but true--i.e. must both want to live in the city(or close to a populated city), must both have some type of job, must both agree to have or not have children, etc.)
Best of luck to you. I do agree with your assessment.
H
Best of luck to you. I do agree with your assessment.
H
Thanks for your honesty, Heather. I think your honesty shows a little what I mean ... You have a LIFESTYLE agenda working inside you, and maybe you weren't even conscious of same. (If a man fell in True Love with you, for unknown reasons, but you rejected him because he didn't fit any of the lifestyle elements you named, then I would say you are looking for "true lifestyle", not "true love"; and you are helping prove my point here actually. But don't be offended I believe I put my finger on something that IS true, not imagined. Most women are like you.)
If you read about Beethoven's life, he fell in passionate LOVE with more than one women, in his day. (If Beethoven doesn't know what passion and true emotion is, who does?) Well, these women were all in upper society class, and inspite of their return of love/passion to Beethoven, THEY ALL MARRIED COUNTS !!! (I.e., men whose lifestyles met with their pre-disposed "agendas".) Much to the terrible grief and despair of Beethoven.
Beethoven wrote some beautiful piano pieces even over some of these love affairs.
Did a woman decide to stay with Beethoven out of her love for his artistic & musical genius and passion for her? Nope! ... Again, they all married Counts, and, Beethoven died single (not his first choice!).
"They all married Counts." That's my point. Love of lifestyle. "True love? Who cares about that?!"
I fell in love with a woman over 30 years ago, inexplicably, but there was nothing I could do to even get her to go out with me. Now get this: Her father was a dentist, a graduate of the Univ. of Minnesota Dental School. Her mom had 2 kids, a boy & girl. What did this woman eventually do, whom I had so much feeling of love for? She entered the Univ. of Minnesota Dental School, found a guy there (who graduated and now practices dentistry in his own clinic in Mpls. suburb). And she also had 2 children - a boy & a girl!!
The comfort of familiar surroundings!!! (True love? Who cares about that? I WASN'T A DENTIST, so I literally had NO CHANCE with this woman. Not at all!)
One time I asked her, after she became engaged to the man she was going to marry (future dentist), if he would "give his life for her" in, let's say, a theoretical situation where, due to circumstance, the only way to save HER life would be by sacrificing his. (Don't ask me what - maybe pushing her out of the way of an oncoming bus, only to get hit himself. I'm sure you can think of a better example!) Her response was to frown confusingly and say: "I don't know." (The tone was like: "Don't bug me with such an irrelevant question! Who knows and who cares?")
And here I thought, the question was a good one, as test whether "true love" was present, or not.
(Stupid me!)
If my fate is same as Beethoven's, well, at least I am in pretty good company.
If you read about Beethoven's life, he fell in passionate LOVE with more than one women, in his day. (If Beethoven doesn't know what passion and true emotion is, who does?) Well, these women were all in upper society class, and inspite of their return of love/passion to Beethoven, THEY ALL MARRIED COUNTS !!! (I.e., men whose lifestyles met with their pre-disposed "agendas".) Much to the terrible grief and despair of Beethoven.
Beethoven wrote some beautiful piano pieces even over some of these love affairs.
Did a woman decide to stay with Beethoven out of her love for his artistic & musical genius and passion for her? Nope! ... Again, they all married Counts, and, Beethoven died single (not his first choice!).
"They all married Counts." That's my point. Love of lifestyle. "True love? Who cares about that?!"
I fell in love with a woman over 30 years ago, inexplicably, but there was nothing I could do to even get her to go out with me. Now get this: Her father was a dentist, a graduate of the Univ. of Minnesota Dental School. Her mom had 2 kids, a boy & girl. What did this woman eventually do, whom I had so much feeling of love for? She entered the Univ. of Minnesota Dental School, found a guy there (who graduated and now practices dentistry in his own clinic in Mpls. suburb). And she also had 2 children - a boy & a girl!!
The comfort of familiar surroundings!!! (True love? Who cares about that? I WASN'T A DENTIST, so I literally had NO CHANCE with this woman. Not at all!)
One time I asked her, after she became engaged to the man she was going to marry (future dentist), if he would "give his life for her" in, let's say, a theoretical situation where, due to circumstance, the only way to save HER life would be by sacrificing his. (Don't ask me what - maybe pushing her out of the way of an oncoming bus, only to get hit himself. I'm sure you can think of a better example!) Her response was to frown confusingly and say: "I don't know." (The tone was like: "Don't bug me with such an irrelevant question! Who knows and who cares?")
And here I thought, the question was a good one, as test whether "true love" was present, or not.
(Stupid me!)
If my fate is same as Beethoven's, well, at least I am in pretty good company.
Again, thanks for your honesty. In Shakespeare's "Romeo & Juliet" (which I deem the purest expression of "true love" in literature), there was not one word spoken between the lovers about where they would live, about Romeo's having a job or source of income, or about having or wanting children.
I think Shakespeare expluded these considerations for a reason!
(Ergo "something or other").
Sincere,
-deeper
I think Shakespeare expluded these considerations for a reason!
(Ergo "something or other").
Sincere,
-deeper
You don't understand...the songs were written by men because their women told them whatzup!
Deeper...
I get your point (and appreciate your honesty). BUT, I do not think you need to stereotype all women the way that you are. I said that I would agree, we all have some preconceived expectations of what we are looking for. I have those expectations because I have tried other relationships that have failed. And I am not even sure that I call them expectations. But I do have an ideal as to what I am looking for. Someone to make me smile, laught, feel good, turn me on, etc. None of these things are associated with looks or money or career, etc. Go ahead, call me a little bitter that I did marry someone who I thougtht I was going to be with forever. Felt like a true connection from the heart or I would have NEVER done it. I had a hard childhood and was okay knowing that I may not have it easier with the marriage I entered. But I was willing to work harder and stronger to meet my goals. He never worked the 6 years we were married. He decided part way through the marriage that he may not want kids. He decided he did not want to live in "the city" etc. etc. It never changed my love for him. I tried to move to meet his needs. I helped him try to open a business in his interest area. I tried believing that it did not matter if I did all of the giving now, that he would step up when he was ready... He was the one who decided he could not compromise. I am sorry but I know well enough that relationships are work and compromise. Not always easy and happy 24/7. I am not saying this to belittle or make you feel bad but pull your head out of your fictional books and look around. Do you honestly think that there is not one person on this site that would not love a fairytale romance? Hell, that is why we are here!! But happily ever after involves work, compromise, ups, downs, give and take, forgiveness, etc. All to often these days (esp.as a school teacher) I see too many people feeling intitled to the "good life" the "perfect life". No one is intitled to a fairytale relationship. Believe it or not they take some work for everyone involved. The honeymoon stage comes and goes as the years go by. But those who have the above skills will make it. I wonder if Romeo and Juliet had been able to communicate honestly were would they be today? Perhaps ALIVE to at least enjoy each other???
Just my thoughts back at ya...
H
I get your point (and appreciate your honesty). BUT, I do not think you need to stereotype all women the way that you are. I said that I would agree, we all have some preconceived expectations of what we are looking for. I have those expectations because I have tried other relationships that have failed. And I am not even sure that I call them expectations. But I do have an ideal as to what I am looking for. Someone to make me smile, laught, feel good, turn me on, etc. None of these things are associated with looks or money or career, etc. Go ahead, call me a little bitter that I did marry someone who I thougtht I was going to be with forever. Felt like a true connection from the heart or I would have NEVER done it. I had a hard childhood and was okay knowing that I may not have it easier with the marriage I entered. But I was willing to work harder and stronger to meet my goals. He never worked the 6 years we were married. He decided part way through the marriage that he may not want kids. He decided he did not want to live in "the city" etc. etc. It never changed my love for him. I tried to move to meet his needs. I helped him try to open a business in his interest area. I tried believing that it did not matter if I did all of the giving now, that he would step up when he was ready... He was the one who decided he could not compromise. I am sorry but I know well enough that relationships are work and compromise. Not always easy and happy 24/7. I am not saying this to belittle or make you feel bad but pull your head out of your fictional books and look around. Do you honestly think that there is not one person on this site that would not love a fairytale romance? Hell, that is why we are here!! But happily ever after involves work, compromise, ups, downs, give and take, forgiveness, etc. All to often these days (esp.as a school teacher) I see too many people feeling intitled to the "good life" the "perfect life". No one is intitled to a fairytale relationship. Believe it or not they take some work for everyone involved. The honeymoon stage comes and goes as the years go by. But those who have the above skills will make it. I wonder if Romeo and Juliet had been able to communicate honestly were would they be today? Perhaps ALIVE to at least enjoy each other???
Just my thoughts back at ya...
H
Sorry for my type-o (s). H I was just too into what I was trying to say.
Deeper... I think you need to look deeper into what a relationship involves. As much as I like to dream...dreams and goals take some work and dedication.
H
Deeper... I think you need to look deeper into what a relationship involves. As much as I like to dream...dreams and goals take some work and dedication.
H
true love comes only from the heart and only GOD knows the heart. Love suffers long and is kind;Love does not envy;Love does not parade itself,is not puffed up;does not behave rudely,does not seek its own,is not provoked,thinks no evil;does not rejoice in iniquity,but rejoices in the truth;bears all things,believes all things,hopes all things,endures all things. TRUE LOVE NEVER FAILS!
1 corithians 13:1 New King James Version
The Bible has alot to say about true love after all GOD is
love and He inspired every word written in that book .
1 corithians 13:1 New King James Version
The Bible has alot to say about true love after all GOD is
love and He inspired every word written in that book .
The best definition of true love I found in the Sci Fi B-movie "Starman". (Not in the bible!)
"True love comes only from the heart and only God knows the heart."
If that were true, then two people (a couple in true love relationship) could never know if they were in true love relationship (or not)! I doubt that's true.
"Love ... believes all things"
I have no idea what that means! Sounds pretty silly though, doesn't it? (I think there is a bridge which could be sold easily to Love.)
"Love endures all things"
Even infidelity? I doubt it! Nor should it. Love CAN be destroyed, so, why say it "endures all things"?
Let's try to think a bit rather than quote from the Big Book, okay?
Thx.
-deeper
"True love comes only from the heart and only God knows the heart."
If that were true, then two people (a couple in true love relationship) could never know if they were in true love relationship (or not)! I doubt that's true.
"Love ... believes all things"
I have no idea what that means! Sounds pretty silly though, doesn't it? (I think there is a bridge which could be sold easily to Love.)
"Love endures all things"
Even infidelity? I doubt it! Nor should it. Love CAN be destroyed, so, why say it "endures all things"?
Let's try to think a bit rather than quote from the Big Book, okay?
Thx.
-deeper
Heather I hope you're not saying the tragedy in the Shakespeare might have been avoided if only Romeo & Juliet would have "communicating honestly"!?
Anyway, I want to think about your long, honest post, before responding ...
On surface though, it seems as though you're basically saying: "True love? Been there, done that. Doesn't work! And now that I look around I see it could never work for anybody, since it has never been more than a child fantasy in the first place. It doesn't exist and is not real."
Gosh that was my original point, wasn't it! (That women in general do NOT believe in true love, or it's value or relevance, in choosing a man. They choose "true lifestyle" instead.)
And briefly, it sounds like YOUR motives in the original relationship were "true love" based, but, clearly your ex's weren't. A true love relationship (Romeo & Juliet) only exists when it is mutual. (So, you may have TRIED a true love relationship, but it didn't work because was one-sided.)
This seems to have caused you to give up earlier notions about love, and your lifestyle criteria came in to supersede them.
That was a "self-protective choice", but, WAS IT A CORRECT CHOICE ? It was a choice which permanently destroyed your beliefs about true love. But were those beliefs really in error? Or were you just "partnered" with the wrong man?
It appears so.
And now, you are attempting to sway me to "leave (my) fantasy world", "grow up", and come over to your "side of the room"!
Where MOST (not all) of the women are! (This was my original point. Women [most women] DO NOT BELIEVE in true love, and find it irrelevant, and unimportant when selecting their man for their concept of "happily ever after [which, when you look at their agenda of requirements, is about physical things, not the spiritual things - job, house, money, location, genetic predisposition, kids, lifestyle, etc.])
I'm a man, I couldn't possibly think like you. So don't try to change me, okay? Without men who believed in love, there would be no Shakespeare, no Beethoven, no Beatles, and so on. (Do you really want to give "vasectomy" to a force which helped produce the current cultural state of affairs and these art images?? Me thinks you don't!)
Sincere,
-deeper
Anyway, I want to think about your long, honest post, before responding ...
On surface though, it seems as though you're basically saying: "True love? Been there, done that. Doesn't work! And now that I look around I see it could never work for anybody, since it has never been more than a child fantasy in the first place. It doesn't exist and is not real."
Gosh that was my original point, wasn't it! (That women in general do NOT believe in true love, or it's value or relevance, in choosing a man. They choose "true lifestyle" instead.)
And briefly, it sounds like YOUR motives in the original relationship were "true love" based, but, clearly your ex's weren't. A true love relationship (Romeo & Juliet) only exists when it is mutual. (So, you may have TRIED a true love relationship, but it didn't work because was one-sided.)
This seems to have caused you to give up earlier notions about love, and your lifestyle criteria came in to supersede them.
That was a "self-protective choice", but, WAS IT A CORRECT CHOICE ? It was a choice which permanently destroyed your beliefs about true love. But were those beliefs really in error? Or were you just "partnered" with the wrong man?
It appears so.
And now, you are attempting to sway me to "leave (my) fantasy world", "grow up", and come over to your "side of the room"!
Where MOST (not all) of the women are! (This was my original point. Women [most women] DO NOT BELIEVE in true love, and find it irrelevant, and unimportant when selecting their man for their concept of "happily ever after [which, when you look at their agenda of requirements, is about physical things, not the spiritual things - job, house, money, location, genetic predisposition, kids, lifestyle, etc.])
I'm a man, I couldn't possibly think like you. So don't try to change me, okay? Without men who believed in love, there would be no Shakespeare, no Beethoven, no Beatles, and so on. (Do you really want to give "vasectomy" to a force which helped produce the current cultural state of affairs and these art images?? Me thinks you don't!)
Sincere,
-deeper
Warning: Reading the lyrics below may carry side-effect of repeatedly hearing the tune in your head for the entire rest of the day.
("She Loves You" - The Beatles)
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
You think you lost your love
When I saw her yesterday
It's you she's thinking of
And she told me what to say
She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad
She said you hurt her so
She almost lost her mind
And now she says she knows
You're not the hurting kind
She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad, ooh
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
And with a love like that
You know you should be glad
Although it's up to you
I think it's only fair
Pride can hurt you too
Apologize to her
Because she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad, ooh
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
("She Loves You" - The Beatles)
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
You think you lost your love
When I saw her yesterday
It's you she's thinking of
And she told me what to say
She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad
She said you hurt her so
She almost lost her mind
And now she says she knows
You're not the hurting kind
She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad, ooh
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
And with a love like that
You know you should be glad
Although it's up to you
I think it's only fair
Pride can hurt you too
Apologize to her
Because she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad, ooh
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Deeper,
You and I have "butted" heads on other forums and I simply have to ask or double check something here. If memory serves you are a Male over the age of 60 correct. Meaning that you have lived your life to a pretty full potential and right now are getting frustrated with being alone. Well, with what I've read be prepared to sit for awhile! First, regarding your questions on Shakespeare, although he never mentioned directly a character going to a trade he did mention it in side conversations also, Shakespeares characters were all middle to upper class characters and therefore in the 15th and 16th Century did not have to work for they were naturally wealthy. 2nd. One of the things that Shakespeare did for us was teach us that "labels" did not matter that it was the inner "love" a person felt or saw that mattered. Which is very relevant in ROMEO AND JULIET AND IN TAMING OF THE SHREW.
RE: this post, as you know I have found my love and I thank Connecting Singles for helping me. You want to know something: I am a 230 pound heavy set German blooded man standing close to 6ft tall. she is 5'8", as skinny as a beanpole and beautiful. I have dark hair, dark eyes and a huge nose. She blonde hair green eyes and a tiny nose. When we met ON-LINE and IN PERSON we both fell in love with the inner person not the outer casing, if all a MAN OR WOMAN does is look at the outer casing they better be prepared to be alone for a long time because the inner soul is what counts the most.
I'm not saying that looks don't matter at all but, If she is drop dead beautiful and as dull as sand forget it. however if she can carry a conversation I would hope she would give me a chance.
Jim
You and I have "butted" heads on other forums and I simply have to ask or double check something here. If memory serves you are a Male over the age of 60 correct. Meaning that you have lived your life to a pretty full potential and right now are getting frustrated with being alone. Well, with what I've read be prepared to sit for awhile! First, regarding your questions on Shakespeare, although he never mentioned directly a character going to a trade he did mention it in side conversations also, Shakespeares characters were all middle to upper class characters and therefore in the 15th and 16th Century did not have to work for they were naturally wealthy. 2nd. One of the things that Shakespeare did for us was teach us that "labels" did not matter that it was the inner "love" a person felt or saw that mattered. Which is very relevant in ROMEO AND JULIET AND IN TAMING OF THE SHREW.
RE: this post, as you know I have found my love and I thank Connecting Singles for helping me. You want to know something: I am a 230 pound heavy set German blooded man standing close to 6ft tall. she is 5'8", as skinny as a beanpole and beautiful. I have dark hair, dark eyes and a huge nose. She blonde hair green eyes and a tiny nose. When we met ON-LINE and IN PERSON we both fell in love with the inner person not the outer casing, if all a MAN OR WOMAN does is look at the outer casing they better be prepared to be alone for a long time because the inner soul is what counts the most.
I'm not saying that looks don't matter at all but, If she is drop dead beautiful and as dull as sand forget it. however if she can carry a conversation I would hope she would give me a chance.
Jim
I apologize Mr. Deeper I just read your Profile and noticed that your in your 50's not 60's. Still, Think!
And now for Heather, our musician friends have received a special request ...
(Lennon/McCartney)
If I fell in love with you
Would you promise to be true
And help me understand
Cos I've been in love before
And I found that love was more
Than just holding hands
If I give my heart to you
I must be sure
From the very start
That you would love me more than her
If I trust in you oh please
Don't run and hide
If I love you too oh please
Don't hurt my pride like her
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad if our new love was in vain
So I hope you see that I
Would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad if our new love was in vain
So I hope you see that I
Would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two
If I fell in love with you
(Lennon/McCartney)
If I fell in love with you
Would you promise to be true
And help me understand
Cos I've been in love before
And I found that love was more
Than just holding hands
If I give my heart to you
I must be sure
From the very start
That you would love me more than her
If I trust in you oh please
Don't run and hide
If I love you too oh please
Don't hurt my pride like her
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad if our new love was in vain
So I hope you see that I
Would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad if our new love was in vain
So I hope you see that I
Would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two
If I fell in love with you
Fine, but -
" a Male over the age of 60 correct. Meaning that you have lived your life to a pretty full potential and right now are getting frustrated with being alone."
For someone who (apparently) doesn't believe in using labels on people, aren't you somewhat stereotyping single men over 60 here?!
(Sorry if "stereotyping" is "too big a word" for the "already confused people" on the forum.)
-deeper
" a Male over the age of 60 correct. Meaning that you have lived your life to a pretty full potential and right now are getting frustrated with being alone."
For someone who (apparently) doesn't believe in using labels on people, aren't you somewhat stereotyping single men over 60 here?!
(Sorry if "stereotyping" is "too big a word" for the "already confused people" on the forum.)
-deeper
("If I Fell in Love with You" - Lennon/McCartney)
If I fell in love with you
Would you promise to be true
And help me understand
Cos I've been in love before
And I found that love was more
Than just holding hands
If I give my heart to you
I must be sure
From the very start
That you would love me more than her
Gosh! I believe in true love. Like Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet.
I guess that makes me a target for comments like: "Grow up and realize these are fantasies", and ridicule like: "I'll speak your language: 'Hark, ...' etc., etc.
So take your shots, people! Throw darts at me!
Don't worry, I won't be here forever. (You see, it's a "temporary thing" - my being here.)
Cheer, cheer! (I can hear it now.)
That's okay. Believe me!
Hats off (though), to OurdoorAnnie, and Heather. (Kiss your hand!)
-deeper1
p.s. Not "brave enough" to put my photo on this site. (Right. Goodbye Mr. Monkey-Man!)
If I fell in love with you
Would you promise to be true
And help me understand
Cos I've been in love before
And I found that love was more
Than just holding hands
If I give my heart to you
I must be sure
From the very start
That you would love me more than her
Gosh! I believe in true love. Like Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet.
I guess that makes me a target for comments like: "Grow up and realize these are fantasies", and ridicule like: "I'll speak your language: 'Hark, ...' etc., etc.
So take your shots, people! Throw darts at me!
Don't worry, I won't be here forever. (You see, it's a "temporary thing" - my being here.)
Cheer, cheer! (I can hear it now.)
That's okay. Believe me!
Hats off (though), to OurdoorAnnie, and Heather. (Kiss your hand!)
-deeper1
p.s. Not "brave enough" to put my photo on this site. (Right. Goodbye Mr. Monkey-Man!)
So I hope you see that I
Would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad if our new love was in vain
To "paraphrase" (oops - sorry Mr. Brave - this is probably "too bid" a word!):
If I give my heart
To you
I must be sure
From the very start
That you
Would love me more than
Her
If I trust in you
Oh please!
Don't run and hide
If I love you too
Oh please!
Don't hurt my pride
Like her
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I
Would be sad if our new love
Was in vain
So I hope you see
That I
Would love to love you
And that she
Will cry
When she learns we are two
Cos I couldn't stand the pain ...
-deeper
p.s. Kill me. I believe in true love. What a silly fool I am.
Would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad if our new love was in vain
To "paraphrase" (oops - sorry Mr. Brave - this is probably "too bid" a word!):
If I give my heart
To you
I must be sure
From the very start
That you
Would love me more than
Her
If I trust in you
Oh please!
Don't run and hide
If I love you too
Oh please!
Don't hurt my pride
Like her
Cos I couldn't stand the pain
And I
Would be sad if our new love
Was in vain
So I hope you see
That I
Would love to love you
And that she
Will cry
When she learns we are two
Cos I couldn't stand the pain ...
-deeper
p.s. Kill me. I believe in true love. What a silly fool I am.
Reading your post, I'm wondering how you're doing finding the relationship you're looking for, if you're going into the situation making women wrong.
How is that working for you?
How is that working for you?
Attack, attack, attack.
Fine.
It takes only one, and it's called "soulmate". So "how's it working", makes no sense.
Take care.
More true love for the dis-believers ...
(Lennon/McCartney)
I give her all my love
That's all I do
And if you saw my love
You'd love her too
I love her
She gives me ev'rything
And tenderly
The kiss my lover brings
She brings to me
And I love her
A love like ours
Could never die
As long as I
Have you near me
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
Fine.
It takes only one, and it's called "soulmate". So "how's it working", makes no sense.
Take care.
More true love for the dis-believers ...
(Lennon/McCartney)
I give her all my love
That's all I do
And if you saw my love
You'd love her too
I love her
She gives me ev'rything
And tenderly
The kiss my lover brings
She brings to me
And I love her
A love like ours
Could never die
As long as I
Have you near me
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
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I love the romantic pop songs of the 70's. "Love, love, love." All about love! It's nice.
But who are these songs written BY ? Men. Men in pop/rock groups.
Who is author of the most magnificent/best/top/King-of-the-World authority on true love? Shakespeare. Romeo & Juliet. (Again, I have to observe, another man.)
I think therefore that men are more romantic, than women.
WOMEN believe/desire/think in terms of LIFESTYLE, not RELATIONSHIP (LOVE).
Women (in my experience and observation - please correct me if you don't agree) have a pre-arranged "agenda" they are seeking, what guy, what situation, what financials, etc., to make their "dream come true". Forget about "true love"! --- that is irrelevant to their "agenda".
If you felt/expressed true love to a woman with the above-desciribed agenda, it would be (as mentioned) irrelevant. You "don't fit it" (to their pre-assembled/accepted) agenda. Basically ... To Hell with "true love" - who cares?
That is the status of American single women level of thinking, in my opinion/obervations/experience.
Knowing this (BTW), has been very helpful. (For, "who" has the problem here? Men? Women? ... I think you know hte answer!!)
-deeper