Turkey:new member of EU? (39)

right and thx, i dont like to explain too long and too much.like to express my opinions is short.hope it doesnt bother y all

Not at all - it's very cute!

just my opinion i think the liklyhood of turkey joining the eu; is about the same as russia's; its not the people that are the problem here it is politics and religeon ;so my opinion is that the issue of turkey joining the eu will smoulder for years but will not happen;;;;

Not even Turkey will join to EU, World will join to each other in the next 50 years more or less! there is no other way.Please just pay attention how small cities joined to each other and became a nation or state and this nations and states became USA or EU.The same happens all over the world!

What about Iran then David

Iran could not be an exception.

David - that's very altruistic of you, but so far attempts to even form economic 'blocs' in South America and Africa have so far been mainly totally disasters.

I do have hope in the future though. The EU is a very complex organisation, but it does seem to work and the lure of the perceived benefits of membership have made potential countries mostly get their act together.

Romania and Bulgaria, however, did NOT fully meet the conditions imposed on them - and now that they are members they have slacked off and reform of their judicial systems and clamp down on corruption have ground to a halt.

As individuals we cannot deal with more than a certain number of people - same with countries.

I'd like there to be about six large economic blocs in the world where they could hammer out trade agreements between them (after lots of consultation with the different regions and countries within each bloc). That would be a sensible and possible route to a united world.

Until then I believe the best most countries can do is act in not only their own interests but also take account the needs of those people in neighbouring countries......... once that principle spreads then the whole world would be covered very quickly.

The problem is many countries are still dictatorships and/or have neighbouring countries that are dictatorships or they do not get on with them (even if short of being at war).

Once Africa becomes democratic it shall be a huge step forward.

South America seems to be doing ok; at least it is on the right path and benefiting from high world prices for their natural resources.

Many Asian coutries have done very well in the past 20 years - and to see India emerging as a growing economy after many decades of stagnation is amazing.

I hope that the targets for safe water, universal primary education, etc that the UN set are eventually met. They can be, and once people begin to have a better standard of living then the birth-rate will slow and maybe we can manage the world's resources in a sensible and fairly stable manner.

Let's pray for a world where most people can drink clean, water, don't starve to death, don't die of preventable diseases, have a good education and a decent life to lead on this planet.

Robert

Hi David,

I agree with you entirely. Where the unity failed as in Bosnia the bloody events of the 90s took place.

By the way, would you mind my curiosity about you with a name like David manages everyday life in Iran - unless of course it really is a pseudonym.

Excuse the levity but the short reason for not admitting Turkey into the EU is that the EU has no shortage of turkeys. The real reason is geopolitical and complex besides the fact that Turkey by its sheer population would become the strongest memmber of the EU. France and Germany would not like that.

But if the EU doesnt want a fierce situation based on religion it should actively reconsider and expedite Turkey's admission. But to say that it will eventually happen is an evasion - like when we say to ourselves that I'll get around to evetually doing it when faced with a difficult job. And we live long lives.

It is a mind boggling affair. Though the USA says it wants the EU take Turkey in - I doubt its authencity. What about the Russians? Consider their case - fighting in Chechenya against muslims and their desire to get closer to Europe.

Religion has not disappeared as the most potent force in geopolitics. India already talks of its new nationalist fervour except in terms of The Great Hindu Power. Admitting a predominantly Muslim country into a Christian EU would count as the greatest historic development this century. Everyone in this world agonises over this question.

Thanks for your input David. Without such discussions CS becomes a dull place .

RK:

“I do have hope in the future though. The EU is a very complex organisation, but it does seem to work and the lure of the perceived benefits of membership have made potential countries mostly get their act together.”

Yes, quite a lot of things SEEM to work – but the fact remains that there is a difference between “seeming to work” and “actually working”. The more complex something is, the more chance there is of it going wrong.


My main problem with Turkey was, is and will remain that it is too “pally” with the United States. What guarantees can ANY Turkish government give that it will support the EU in all its policies even when they might go against US interests?

Also, we keep saying that religion should not pose an obstacle when there are still people dying because of their beliefs.