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Sep 20, 2007 11:00 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Alcohol is known as a depressant and to some professionals as a class A narcotic.
Why is it still legal?

The "days of the prohibition" argument does not wash in my view since Marijuana and the "war on drugs" has put us in prohibition days since it has been outlawed.

What is your view on this very important issue?
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Sep 20, 2007 11:01 PM CST M.A.D.D
b_n_d
b_n_db_n_dGlasgow, USA60 Threads 3,675 Posts
Let me drink on this I'l get back to you.drinking
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Sep 20, 2007 11:02 PM CST M.A.D.D
b_n_d
b_n_db_n_dGlasgow, USA60 Threads 3,675 Posts
The deal is, Everything in moderationthumbs up
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Sep 20, 2007 11:05 PM CST M.A.D.D
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
Because most of the law makers were on their 4th martini when they out-lawed marijuana.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:06 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
"My friends,

"I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey.

"If when you say whiskey you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.

"But;

"If when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.

"This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise."


Speech by Judge Noah Sweat
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Sep 20, 2007 11:06 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Moderation is a good thing... thumbs up
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Sep 20, 2007 11:07 PM CST M.A.D.D
cantbetamed71
cantbetamed71cantbetamed71St. Louis, USA70 Threads 901 Posts
Cannabis should be legalized and taxed accordingly. Alcohol as one said above should be used in moderation but then there are those who have addictive personalities and they don't know the meaning of the word.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:07 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Gentlepaws, you astound me thumbs up
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Sep 20, 2007 11:11 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Taking the easy way out, aren'tcha? rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 20, 2007 11:12 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
Easy way out? Not at all. I think the Judge has it right.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:17 PM CST M.A.D.D
kujhawkrulz
kujhawkrulzkujhawkrulzNeosho Falls, Kansas USA4 Threads 115 Posts
I'd have to say that if you drink alcohol and are not a drunkard then it's okay by me :)

I don't really think that spending your babies diaper money to get a fix is good think :(

-Erin
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Sep 20, 2007 11:18 PM CST M.A.D.D
kujhawkrulz
kujhawkrulzkujhawkrulzNeosho Falls, Kansas USA4 Threads 115 Posts
boy I can't type for anything tonight

thing* not think
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Sep 20, 2007 11:20 PM CST M.A.D.D
Music_Guy
Music_GuyMusic_GuyJamestown, North Dakota USA19 Posts
As a member of AA who just got back from a meeting, I find it very interesting to find this topic being discussed. I think that the judge hit it right on the head. Alcohol does different things for different people.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:26 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
So should we just sit on the fence? And wait for that drunk driver to knock us off of it ?
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Sep 20, 2007 11:29 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Have I gotten that speech wrong? Or is the Judge really sitting on the fence of this issue?
He minds the negative attributes of alcohol but approves of the possitives, that's sitting on the fence...
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Sep 20, 2007 11:30 PM CST M.A.D.D
Music_Guy
Music_GuyMusic_GuyJamestown, North Dakota USA19 Posts
No, but as prohibition (of alcohol in the 30's and drugs today) has proven, consequences will not keep a person who wants to use sober. All that a person can do is try to get a person help. If they don't want it, there is very little chance for success. Even for people who want to stay sober there is only something like a 17% success rate for addiction treatment centers.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:31 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
What would you have us do, the laws are quite strict on drinking and driving. And the penalties are even tougher.

Should society be protected from itself in everything?

Do we need to outlaw twinkies, ice cream, cigarettes, guns, cars etc. ?
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Sep 20, 2007 11:32 PM CST M.A.D.D
Music_Guy
Music_GuyMusic_GuyJamestown, North Dakota USA19 Posts
I suppose so. The point that he makes though is that for most people alcohol is not a problem. They can have a couple drinks and go home having had a good time. Myself, when I used to drink, would have to have a drink just to start my day.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:32 PM CST M.A.D.D
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
You have it right, But so did he.
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Sep 20, 2007 11:33 PM CST M.A.D.D
cantbetamed71
cantbetamed71cantbetamed71St. Louis, USA70 Threads 901 Posts
No, but what would your solution be to those who do not employ moderation in their indulgences? Let them go out and do something dangerous like eat 1000 twinkies and get behind the wheel???
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