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Mar 15, 2006 10:48 AM CST occults /secret religions
who has read into 1)freemasonry
2)Knights Templar
and who has heard of the Golden Dawn,and The Emerald tablet.?

(I have way too much time on my hands lol)
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Mar 15, 2006 10:54 AM CST occults /secret religions
Mike42Filmmaker
Mike42FilmmakerMike42FilmmakerLos Angeles, California USA3 Threads 142 Posts
I don't know much about your two subjects in the body of the post.

I do know about the Celtic Religions that were driven underground by Judeo-Christianity whcih came in from the Middle East as a means of control.

Brigid and the Celtic Goddesses such as the Goddess of War, Morrigan.
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Mar 15, 2006 11:51 AM CST occults /secret religions
two very powerful goddess'. What can you tell me about druids and shamanism?

Have you read anything by Caitlin Mathews?
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Mar 15, 2006 12:55 PM CST occults /secret religions
Mike42Filmmaker
Mike42FilmmakerMike42FilmmakerLos Angeles, California USA3 Threads 142 Posts
I was raised a druid. It was in our family for at least 4 generations going back to the islands of western Scotland.

It's Matriarchial. All the women in our heritage have 2-3 university degrees going way back. The females in my family are taught to be leaders from the age of 12.

I'll look into Cailtin's works. Womean should be Political leaders because most the men get killed in wars.

Lots of things were handed down. Teachings that the Middle East men tried to kill off and silence as they came into Europe, Ireland, Isle of Man and Scotland's Islands.

I pray to Morrigan every day many times. It's just kills Hollywood. It works, actually in business meetings.
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Mar 15, 2006 1:49 PM CST occults /secret religions
I am profound to hear your family has managed to keep the teachings alive and knowledge is explicily sought by the women in your family. from little readings of the druids i have obviously been misinformed, it was to my knowledge that there is little found of the druids. Perhaps I should use the tool of the internet to explore more on it. It seems as though I only hear the goddess voice in spring autumn and summer and she is sleeping in the winter perhaps. and my most creativity comes also within the warmer months and certain stages within the month.
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Mar 15, 2006 6:51 PM CST occults /secret religions
ryder13
ryder13ryder13barrie, Ontario Canada8 Posts
Hi Adreanna
If I recall correctly the Golden Dawn was a mystic order that at one time Aleister Crowley was involved in - around 1900s or so - Crowley was an author and sort of a cult leader who wrote a number of books on Magick (his spelling) - he was quite notorious - he died in the 1940s - probably one of the most famous practitioners of black magic (according to some black magic)
he did a huge autobiography and was also the subject of several bios probably he is much better known than the golden dawn group
hope this helps some
take care
ryder 13
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Mar 15, 2006 9:45 PM CST occults /secret religions
Mathers and Arthur Waite was one of the first members to create the Hermetic order of the golden dawn, Waite joining the Societas Rosicrusaina in Angelis renaming it the holy order of the golden dawn.Leaving the order to form his own the fellowship of the rosey cross. Crowley joined the order in which mathers remaind in the Hermetic order of the golden dawn or so called the outer order. Crowley became magister templi(magister of the temple)in 1909. Being farly new topic of the holy order of the golden dawn,a text in which i purchased a few months ago, is mysterious in itself and to even begin to understand the grading system is still new to me and understanding the levels of initiation has left me weary. to conclude very close ties of masonry and the golden dawn seems apparent but only as speculation of my limited reading so far.
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Mar 15, 2006 10:04 PM CST occults /secret religions
southernbelle22
southernbelle22southernbelle22Victoria, Texas USA13 Threads 329 Posts
Hi I know some about freemasonary, and knight templar

my father is a member of both, and is a past master mason!
I can't really explain to much about the freemasonary, cause i don't know that much about it! i know that they Follow the word of GOd and they are service organazation...

For women there are kindda the same organzations, called the Order of Eastren Star! and you have to be a wife, grand daughter or daughter, or neice to a freemason, we do the same! and im a member of that was well as my mother,

also for children they have Internaitonal Order of Rainbow for girls, which like above you have to have a family member in affliation to the Free mason!

then they have the Demolay which is as the same as the Rainbow girls its just SOn's of mason's

THen we have SHriners....... Have you ever heard of the Shrine clowns? or the Shriners burn center or cripple childerns hospital? Freemason's started all that! THose are hospitals, for burns and orthapedic, the children do not pay a dime, for the help they get! and that goes for children all around the world!

It's awesome to learn about the things they do! but its all secret! But imma look up some more info about it all and ill get back to ya!!!

mere
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Mar 15, 2006 10:18 PM CST occults /secret religions
thank you for sharing with this...the order for boys you were speaking of the Molay...could perhaps be stemed from Jaque de Molay who was notoriously known to belong to the Knights templar in the 1300 before he was executed from the orders of the roman church. Lore has it that the unlucky number 13 was to originate because on october 13 of 1313 the church ordered to diminish and slaughter all knights templar, this is a very complex era that not one answer has come to the reason why the knites templar were executed but majority was that they were labled devil worshippers disguised as knites doing the works of god protecting the roads of attacks to local citizens.(huge topic.) Yes the masonic rituals are of course secret but many things have been brought about either by word of mouth or writings, as intriguiging as it is, there are many mysteries that have been sworn to secrecy for many hundreds of years and protected. It is true that there are signs everywhere and many renown leaders and the highest degrees of men are and were freemasons.The first president of the united states, and winston churchill. It was believed that the masons originated in the 15 century but robert knite and jack lomas feel its teachings go back thousands of years.
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Mar 15, 2006 10:30 PM CST occults /secret religions
southernbelle22
southernbelle22southernbelle22Victoria, Texas USA13 Threads 329 Posts
Also The Battle of the Alamo, When Texas won its Independance from Mexico in 1865 all the Men that went down in the battle of the alamo were also all Mason's. And the Square and Compass is a sign that most people notice around the world, you can go any where and see a person with that on there car or on there ring and you know that is a mason! and you can as well do the same with the Order of Eastran Star! they have a star emblem, and alot of people mistake organzation's and call them CULTS... but if you look it up in the dictionary it states:
a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
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Mar 15, 2006 10:53 PM CST occults /secret religions
Townwood
TownwoodTownwoodBrampton, Ontario Canada5 Posts
It is my understanding that it was due to the knights almost bankrupting France. It is believed that they brought back knowledge that shed light on the life of Jesus.
I would imagine that they could pull back the veil.
Like the Wizard of Oz.
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Mar 16, 2006 8:01 AM CST occults /secret religions
southernbelle22
southernbelle22southernbelle22Victoria, Texas USA13 Threads 329 Posts
Lodges and Grand Lodges whose charters' roots derive from the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Freemasons of England , The Grand Lodge of Ireland or the Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of Scotland use the expression, A.·.F.·.& A.·.M.·.
Those Grand Lodges that don't use the appellation "Ancient", claim descent from the "Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons under the constitution of England" during the period from 1717 until 1813.
This Grand Lodge was constituted from four lodges on June 24, 1717 and was designated "Modern," although the preferred term is "Premier." The "Moderns" and "Ancients" united in November 25, 1813 to form the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Freemasons of England [now styled the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of England].
The choice of style is not universal as some Grand Lodges simply chose one or other title for reasons of their own. The usage has no bearing on regularity or recognition.

just a lil info i found!
mere
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Mar 16, 2006 8:35 AM CST occults /secret religions
kenigsberg
kenigsbergkenigsbergkentville, Nova Scotia Canada13 Threads 1,127 Posts
it seems like i becaming a librarian on the Forum lol..
however there is a book to satisfy your curiosity on of the topic you are interested with
Wilton Barnhardt "Gospel"
Have fun
Marina:^)
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Mar 16, 2006 8:51 AM CST occults /secret religions
I'd just like to make a correction that the date for which the templars were executed was october 13 1307. The Templars were quit wealthy and did often loan france and the church large amounts of money,the templars were by no means poor. when france could not pay back these debts it can be speculated that is why the rumour of devil worshipping was started and ended in an ultimate desicion to get rid of them.

the knowledge you speek of was supposedly found under the ruins of herods temple which they were excavating for many years.

French historian Gaetan Delaforge commented: "the real task of the nine Knights(at this time the knights templar did not expand into the large group they became) was to carry out research in the area in order to obtain certain relics and manuscripts which contain the essence of the sacred traditions of judaism and ancient egypt ,some of which probably went back to the days of moses"
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Mar 18, 2006 7:33 PM CST occults /secret religions
medieval
medievalmedievalunited kingdom, Grampian, Scotland UK31 Threads 295 Posts
You mean the emerald tablets of thoth ( three great wise)? Old hat to me ask questions i got more time on my hands than you i think.
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Mar 18, 2006 7:35 PM CST occults /secret religions
DamnitsCloudy
DamnitsCloudyDamnitsCloudyLexington, USA22 Threads 2,578 Posts
This forum has made me paranoid...secret relgions that have already taken over the world....O_O Maybe they are watching me now...

Allen
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Mar 18, 2006 7:37 PM CST occults /secret religions
medieval
medievalmedievalunited kingdom, Grampian, Scotland UK31 Threads 295 Posts
Read all your stuff for the first time , we seem to be on a shared path. But have found nearly--- all the answers i want. Have you every strayed and read a little quantum physics?
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Mar 18, 2006 9:15 PM CST occults /secret religions
Townwood
TownwoodTownwoodBrampton, Ontario Canada5 Posts
Yes. The Knights loaned great amounts of money to France and others but they were a poor order. When they left on their quest to the Holy land they were financed. Soon after they came back they became the financiers.
Unless Herods temple had a huge gold mine underneath and they were able to secret tons of gold all the way back to Europe, then the only thing they could have brought back was knowledge. But what knowledge could possibly be worth such vast sums of money?

What price would you pay to cover lies you have made to a spouse?
What price would be paid to cover lies told to nations.
If the very core of our beliefs were lies what might it do, at that point of history, to the strongest of nations.

Freemasonry has now interwoven it's own doctrine into Catholism. Now we are to believe that an heir to Christ lives in Europe and one from his bloodline will become public when the world is ready. (Can you say 'Antichrist') lol.

I remember a book that I read. It is called "The Wizards first Rule."
That rule is "People are stupid and will believe anything".

If you've ever had a cheating spouse, then you probably know that rule is true.
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