Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud (40)

Jan 25, 2013 2:41 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
MICKEYMOST: Oops, think you may have misunderstood me.

What I meant was that the prison she will end up is a hell hole compared to Holloway.

Can't imagine they will let her serve her sentence in a British prison when the crime was committed in Bali!

No I did understand you but had heard sometimes long time sentence could be served in own Country. I do not think that will happen this time though.
Jan 25, 2013 2:47 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Sailfree1
Sailfree1Sailfree1Vilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland16 Threads 663 Posts
Redex: No I did understand you but had heard sometimes long time sentence could be served in own Country. I do not think that will happen this time though.


Morning Redex bouquet
NO that does not happen, if the crime is committed in
another country they serve the time in that country.
When completed its usually deportation.
In this case its death. So its fair a sentence of death
for a murderer as that is what Drug Trafficers are.
I have no real feelings for this kind of crime.
It just turns my stomach.
Watching Trevor on the death row in the states last night
was something an eye opener. wave
Jan 25, 2013 3:20 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
MICKEYMOST
MICKEYMOSTMICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
Sailfree1: Morning Redex
NO that does not happen, if the crime is committed in
another country they serve the time in that country.
When completed its usually deportation.
In this case its death. So its fair a sentence of death
for a murderer as that is what Drug Trafficers are.
I have no real feelings for this kind of crime.
It just turns my stomach.
Watching Trevor on the death row in the states last night
was something an eye opener.


Yes it can happen depending on the country sentencing.



I would say not in this case though.
Jan 25, 2013 1:34 PM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
well it has left the news now. I just wonder if our government is fighting for her or leaving her to her fate. I still must admit she in prison will suffer every grain of the stuff before it hit the streets. I wonder if she had done it beforeconfused
Jan 26, 2013 1:32 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Sailfree1
Sailfree1Sailfree1Vilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland16 Threads 663 Posts
Redex: well it has left the news now. I just wonder if our government is fighting for her or leaving her to her fate. I still must admit she in prison will suffer every grain of the stuff before it hit the streets. I wonder if she had done it before

Morning Redex
This is a valid question
Did she do it before and for how long.
This is something those countries look
for.
They are not stupid they either were
tipped off or they noticed something.
However, I have my money on her being
executed.
The UK will will leave her to her fate
now. I doubt if she will get any further
assistance.
Personally if it were me, I would give her
drugs and let her die from them as she is
in my books a Murderer indirectly.
Jan 26, 2013 2:36 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Ziggie20
Ziggie20Ziggie20Margate, Kent, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 341 Posts
Sailfree1: Morning Redex This is a valid question
Did she do it before and for how long. This is something those countries look for.
They are not stupid they either were tipped off or they noticed something. However, I have my money on her being
executed. The UK will will leave her to her fate
now. I doubt if she will get any further assistance.
Personally if it were me, I would give her drugs and let her die from them as she is in my books a Murderer indirectly.


Mornin Ma'am wave
I put a comment from the Dailmail on here Wedneasday which Redex answeed, covering her PREVIOUS !!
Redex wrote Mitigating circumstances is what defence lawers do. I do not know wether true or false, but she does deserve to go to prison that stuff on the streets ruin lives.

Published in the Daily Mail Today By Richard Shears and Daniel Miller
PUBLISHED: 10:41, 23 January 2013 | UPDATED: 18:20, 23 January 2013

Short and Pertinent Extract.
Yesterday an expert on the Bali crime scene said Sandiford was a 'familiar face' in the local drug world and mad repeated trips from India smuggling hashish.
Kathryn Bonella, author of the book Snowing in Bali, about the island's criminal underworld, said Sandiford would fly in from Britain via India.


Speaking to the Times she said: 'She used to bring in from India and sell it to one of my contacts, but had recently moved into cocaine.
'I know a number of big western drugs dealers who fled the island when they found out she had been busted and was turning rat.'
Sandiford's appeal is expected to launch within seven days. It could drag through the courts for years and throughout that time she knows the death sentence will still hang over her and could finally be carried out.

IMO If those comments can be substantiated as facts it seems she would have known the consequences could be the death sentence.

I still hold to the same opinion
cheers
I see the UK flag has been removed from the emoticoms, so Rule Britannia grin
Jan 26, 2013 4:30 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
Sail I think I leave it to the country were she is in. I will never agree to taking a life as punishment. Harder punishment to sit in a jail for years over there, not a short quick exsist so to speak. Taking a life just brings you down to same level as these people.
Jan 26, 2013 6:23 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
MICKEYMOST
MICKEYMOSTMICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
Redex: Sail I think I leave it to the country were she is in. I will never agree to taking a life as punishment. Harder punishment to sit in a jail for years over there, not a short quick exsist so to speak. Taking a life just brings you down to same level as these people.



Agreed.Baying for someone's blood solves nothing.

Don't think they will execute her as Bali rely's on tourism and some people may be put off by this decision.

If the appeal goes through they can go to the Supreme Court in Jakarta.

The British government is against ANY death penalty so probably will get involved ,as has Reprieve, an organisation which is supporting her now.

Rotting in a disease ridden and corrupt jail would be a fate far worse than death anyway.
Jan 26, 2013 10:09 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Bigbrightsmile
BigbrightsmileBigbrightsmileColonial Heights, Virginia USA2 Posts
I think it was pretty obvious if ANYONE wins ANY sport (swimming, cycling, running, etc.) back to back for 3 years plus, then they should be tested for drugs! Just my opinion! So blame it on the officials! There is no telling if he was using drugs since day one of his competing days. I say just strip him of his trophies that he admitted to using drugs during and band him for like a year or so for competing and then let him back (but test him). Yes, drug testing is expensive but that's why there are sponsors, officials, etc.
Jan 26, 2013 10:54 AM CST Should Lance Armstrong be banned from the sport for life and face jail for drugs and fraud
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
Bigbrightsmile: I think it was pretty obvious if ANYONE wins ANY sport (swimming, cycling, running, etc.) back to back for 3 years plus, then they should be tested for drugs! Just my opinion! So blame it on the officials! There is no telling if he was using drugs since day one of his competing days. I say just strip him of his trophies that he admitted to using drugs during and band him for like a year or so for competing and then let him back (but test him). Yes, drug testing is expensive but that's why there are sponsors, officials, etc.


Sorry you can not blame HIS drug taking on the officials, he took it. You can blame officials for not finding out.
He only admitted to it all thinking his ban would be shortened and he could race again.
I feel sorry for the racers that were not drug takers and could have been placed with hard work not pillshandshake
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