GothlilPrincess: Hmm well I think sometimes nice guys finish first I think what I've found though are the sweetest most sincere guys can be pushovers, (SOME) don't realize they are being walked all over for it. I was once dating this really nice guy and we got into a fight one night, I had had a bad day at work and pretty much took it out on the safest person to. Him. (not at all like me but it happened) About halfway through the argument I realized he just kept taking it and admitting fault when he didn't do anything really for me to get upset over, I wish he would have told me off or at least stuck up for himself to get me to snap out of it. I think the problem is that girls like nice guys who are assertive and not just a ball of nice, you have to have a balance to be equals. I remember another time we went out and a very loud obnoxious girl and her boyfriend sitting a row down from us at the theater asked (in the middle of the movie) if we minded if they climbed over the seats to the last row and sat together, now for them to sit together we would have to move down further to a seat that was clearly broken and sticky, know what he said? Sure! My new seat squeaked so much I couldn't even enjoy the movie, cashmere sweater got sticky and the two of the teenages sat and had a conversation through the whole movie! We didn't date too long, I think he was so focused on being a sweetie we never became comfortable enough to argue or really talk out differences, I felt guilty about saying something that may hurt his feelings and he was never comfortable enough to let me know when I had done something to bother him, there goes that niceness getting in the way again... So nice guys WITH a backbone finish first!
Truly nice people are like flowers that are larger than their fellows. When people come and see these flowers, the most rude, agressive, unmannered push aside those around them like at a sale at Wal-Mart. The nice people are ripped from hand to hand and torn. Those in good shape are then shown off to light the egos of the person who has it. When this flower is through being waved, it is laid down and withers without a wimper of the person. Then thrown out.....and then who wants a near dead flower.
We have those people who go for the flowers the are painted, glittered, those with no fragrance. They treat those flowers as if they are a greater than the nice flowers. then the results is the same as above.
The foolishness above all is that all flower seem to like the fight for them......never knowing the end of the fight is destrution of themselves. But the gardeners who would tend are never seen in the fight.....they are those beaten down to grab the "SALE OF THE DAY"
"To some insight and to others mystery. Thereby is knowledge and understanding crowned."
all that being said, sometimes the jerks out there are guys that used to be nice guys. or guys that witnessed what happens to nice guys. i used to joke that nice guys finish last had a different meaning. i won't go into it, but i will say i used to be much nicer than i am now. i just shake my head when i hear women complain about not being able to find a nice guy. cause usually when they do, they don't know what to do with them. (and yes, i did and still do have a backbone.)
Well, first, it's probably true that most guys probably think that they are nice guys. I would have said I am a nice guy two seconds ago before that sentence just popped into my head. Now, I'm thinking about it. . .
So, as one of the first respondents said, how do we define nice. Well, I would define a nice guy or women for that matter as one that changes for the better when they get needlessly hurt by society or taken advantage of because of their niceness. Changing for the better would mean that the nice guy would not stop doing the right thing when hurt even when it's a disadvantage, looking out for others before themselves, demanding truth and openness when everyone else is all about obfuscation and mind games, correcting personal faults when they become known. In this sense, I would say that yes yes yes nice guys do win. And sometimes, not always, they might just be a much needed brightness in the world for a moment. Theoretically, if such people exist, they would be the only ones without a guilty conscience and would be at peace with themselves. I call that finishing first. Now. . . Hmmm... How to be a nice guy in such a corrupt world? Any suggestions?
FreeBuffalo: Well, first, it's probably true that most guys probably think that they are nice guys. I would have said I am a nice guy two seconds ago before that sentence just popped into my head. Now, I'm thinking about it. . .
So, as one of the first respondents said, how do we define nice. Well, I would define a nice guy or women for that matter as one that changes for the better when they get needlessly hurt by society or taken advantage of because of their niceness. Changing for the better would mean that the nice guy would not stop doing the right thing when hurt even when it's a disadvantage, looking out for others before themselves, demanding truth and openness when everyone else is all about obfuscation and mind games, correcting personal faults when they become known. In this sense, I would say that yes yes yes nice guys do win. And sometimes, not always, they might just be a much needed brightness in the world for a moment. Theoretically, if such people exist, they would be the only ones without a guilty conscience and would be at peace with themselves. I call that finishing first. Now. . . Hmmm... How to be a nice guy in such a corrupt world? Any suggestions?
No! Nice guys so not finish first anymore, Believe me I know because when you think you have found " THE ONE" it only ends up being a lie and most of the time you get used for either money or something else that has nothing to do with love but, alot of people are starting to make that more important and understandable but at the same time when the money runs out does the other person as well? I say we don't finish first because my last relationship cost me over 18,000 dollars and in the beginning I will never leave you I will love you forever and you know what when you say those things a person actually does believe those words. So if your gonna say them mean it when you say it. Or at least understand what the word Love means.
Bentlee: That really depends on how much you want her and if her personality and demeanor is worth the chase for a long term! -if that's what you seek!
Slowly but surely women are seeing a grounded man is truely more secure then the bad boy. Lol truth always prevails and or the the spots always show at some time. jmo Based on experience.
Once people were given credit on their good name. But now a person has to prove and to have it in order to get credit. Today most women are not worthy of the love of a truly nice guy. The truly nice woman is a rare find.....most are taken already and are being treated badly. The women now must prove they are worth my love or they will never mean a thing to me. This nice guy is finished at last!
Bentlee: Slowly but surely women are seeing a grounded man is truely more secure then the bad boy. Lol truth always prevails and or the the spots always show at some time. jmo Based on experience.
Hmmm, i thought i'd get a defending responce Here, from the ladies!
Heh. I'm just a madman, actually, until one gets to know me, then it gets better...
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wow i never thout id get this much feed back on the poll you all are great and thank you so much for you comments and input on this sn icywolfman864@yahoo.com
icywolfman864: This poll is just to let me know if the none gay sweet,handsome,nice guys like me get the girl any more?
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