Gerry Adams (546)
sideshowbob: To be honest, that's pathetic, not so much a traveller after all are you
And to be honest your attempts to make yourself look like a big man are pathetic.
And in these countries that some of us have visited, have they found a resolution to end terrorism (middle east and africa in particular), no they have not it is a long way off. I shall say again at least the England and Northern Ireland have made leaps and bounds in the right direction, why, because it was the right and thing to do. That requires intelligence. People saw sense.
gleneagle: I think someone that travels meets a lot more people thus expanding their knowledge and getting to understand the conflicts and the causes of those conflicts on a first hand basis if they reside in those areas during the conflict there.
Hi
I am interested in your answer to my question I posted previously.
When innocents are killed is there a difference between terrorists and freedom fighters?
Kalimera: And to be honest your attempts to make yourself look like a big man are pathetic.
No complaints,
gleneagle: I think someone that travels meets a lot more people thus expanding their knowledge and getting to understand the conflicts and the causes of those conflicts on a first hand basis if they reside in those areas during the conflict there.
Yes they do. Living and working in these places is no joke, no room for cowboys either. It is dangerous and ultimately the price many pay are with their lives regardless what they are fighting for, or even being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Death is always a reminder of how fragile a society we live in.
It is the generations beneath us that will make or break any peace a country has with regards to terrorism. Education being a key factor in this too and building bridges. This can happen through various means of communication. But it can take many a decade if not hundreds of years in some cases where people are persecuted to resolve these battles, which are often about money and power, religion is just used as a tool to mask the former two.
sideshowbob: The topic relates to Gerry Adams, English travel there, ie 'TRAVEL', stay on topic, Am I allowed to have an opinion or should I stay mute (don't answer that, I know the answer) GERRY ADAMS v ENGLAND, have I offended you, very sorry
Still in the common-wealth though, not for much longer, or is that a different thread
sideshowbob: Still in the common-wealth though, not for much longer, or is that a different thread
You know hoofing too much high grade happiness does have its downside.
sideshowbob: Still in the common-wealth though, not for much longer, or is that a different thread
Well other than USA and Libya, I am not sure where gerry Adams has been to be honest.
elsson: Well other than USA and Libya, I am not sure where gerry Adams has been to be honest.
prison?
, IN PARLIMENT
Veritaas: Yes they do. Living and working in these places is no joke, no room for cowboys either. It is dangerous and ultimately the price many pay are with their lives regardless what they are fighting for, or even being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Death is always a reminder of how fragile a society we live in.
It is the generations beneath us that will make or break any peace a country has with regards to terrorism. Education being a key factor in this too and building bridges. This can happen through various means of communication. But it can take many a decade if not hundreds of years in some cases where people are persecuted to resolve these battles, which are often about money and power, religion is just used as a tool to mask the former two.
It is the generations beneath us that will make or break any peace a country has with regards to terrorism. Education being a key factor in this too and building bridges. This can happen through various means of communication. But it can take many a decade if not hundreds of years in some cases where people are persecuted to resolve these battles, which are often about money and power, religion is just used as a tool to mask the former two.
If this peace process can save the life of one person be that a volunteer, a British soldier or a civilian, it will have not been in vain. These are the words of an IRA commander on being informed of a complete cessation of military operations,
sideshowbob: You are right, I should mind my own business, who am I to question, NZ, OZ, CANADA, USA have no right at all to question the famine let alone Gerry Adams. Why don't we all just sweep it under the carpet and say 'bad luck', sorry and your right..... travelling has nothing to do with it
OK lets discuss the potato famine shall we, caused by a blight brought over from the US. The famine was caused by a reliance upon the potato by Irish farmers, when the potato harvest failed twice in a row Irish farmers were unable to provide food for themselves resulting in a death toll of aprox 1,000,000. Could the government in London have done more probably, should it have done more, definitely, but the British are NOT responsible for Potato blight OR the over reliance on the potato by Irish farmers. Any more than the Ethiopian government is responsible for the drought in Ethiopia.
gleneagle: If this peace process can save the life of one person be that a volunteer, a British soldier or a civilian, it will have not been in vain. These are the words of an IRA commander on being informed of a complete cessation of military operations,
Serious question. Do you really believe that statement came from the heart re: British soldier??
elsson: Serious question. Do you really believe that statement came from the heart re: British soldier??
Serious answer, I hope so, I say dumb provoking things but the peace process is working. No one wants anyone dead but somethings going to give: either Britain changes to the Euro and accepts the euro currency or Ireland accepts Britain as a neighbour. No rules just a republic governance, it's actually not that hard to do, I can mouth off but Britain and Ireland have more in common than Eastern Europeans. Not hard but it is damn freaky :scold
elsson: Serious question. Do you really believe that statement came from the heart re: British soldier??
I think that once the Republicans decided on the peacefull path they moved away from demonising their ememy. The replaced tracers going across the valleys during firefights to hands going across tables in the spirit of reconciliation.
Brendan Mc Gee the Brighton Bomber has talked at meetings in England where all sided in the conflict are brought together in ways that fosters reconciliation.
When Martin Mc Guinness negeotiates he does so on behalf of all the Republican movement and adheres to the commitments he makes.
gleneagle: I think that once the Republicans decided on the peacefull path they moved away from demonising their ememy. The replaced tracers going across the valleys during firefights to hands going across tables in the spirit of reconciliation.
Brendan Mc Gee the Brighton Bomber has talked at meetings in England where all sided in the conflict are brought together in ways that fosters reconciliation.
When Martin Mc Guinness negeotiates he does so on behalf of all the Republican movement and adheres to the commitments he makes.
Brendan Mc Gee the Brighton Bomber has talked at meetings in England where all sided in the conflict are brought together in ways that fosters reconciliation.
When Martin Mc Guinness negeotiates he does so on behalf of all the Republican movement and adheres to the commitments he makes.
Until he doesn't get what he wants, then what? back to the gun? or will he accept the will of the majority of people from Northern Ireland? I have my doubts.
Iuchi_Zien: Until he doesn't get what he wants, then what? back to the gun? or will he accept the will of the majority of people from Northern Ireland? I have my doubts.
Adams and his buddies wont go back to violence, Its the Real IRA that are opposed to peace process and they see Gerry and his mates as sell outs
gleneagle: I think that once the Republicans decided on the peacefull path they moved away from demonising their ememy. The replaced tracers going across the valleys during firefights to hands going across tables in the spirit of reconciliation.
Brendan Mc Gee the Brighton Bomber has talked at meetings in England where all sided in the conflict are brought together in ways that fosters reconciliation.
When Martin Mc Guinness negeotiates he does so on behalf of all the Republican movement and adheres to the commitments he makes.
Brendan Mc Gee the Brighton Bomber has talked at meetings in England where all sided in the conflict are brought together in ways that fosters reconciliation.
When Martin Mc Guinness negeotiates he does so on behalf of all the Republican movement and adheres to the commitments he makes.
well for the sake of all concerned in the North, I really hope your faith in these people is adopted by both communities but as you have noted some things on both sides of the communities will take a couple of generations to completely heal. Belfast for instance has become a stag party venue for people from Liverpool over the last few years, no match for Dublin but enough to say Belfast is no longer a no go area for the British. Although I have never been to the North but by all accounts the city centre of Belfast seems to welcome the new found revenue from a potential growth in tourism. Sure there are incidents but not heard of any from the horses mouth.
Iuchi_Zien: Until he doesn't get what he wants, then what? back to the gun? or will he accept the will of the majority of people from Northern Ireland? I have my doubts.
.Northern Ireland was created to subvert the will of the people of Ireland in favour of people whos peoplewere installed there by ethnic cleansing the original inhabitants of those lands.
In answer to your question I dont see the Republican leadership reneging on their committments.
gleneagle: .
Northern Ireland was created to subvert the will of the people of Ireland in favour of people whos peoplewere installed there by ethnic cleansing the original inhabitants of those lands.
In answer to your question I dont see the Republican leadership reneging on their committments.
Northern Ireland was created to subvert the will of the people of Ireland in favour of people whos peoplewere installed there by ethnic cleansing the original inhabitants of those lands.
In answer to your question I dont see the Republican leadership reneging on their committments.
How come everyone elses questions but mine are being answered?
Iuchi_Zien: OK lets discuss the potato famine shall we, caused by a blight brought over from the US. The famine was caused by a reliance upon the potato by Irish farmers, when the potato harvest failed twice in a row Irish farmers were unable to provide food for themselves resulting in a death toll of aprox 1,000,000. Could the government in London have done more probably, should it have done more, definitely, but the British are NOT responsible for Potato blight OR the over reliance on the potato by Irish farmers. Any more than the Ethiopian government is responsible for the drought in Ethiopia.
You missed the real part, concerning why the IRA started and correct me if I'm wrong as I'm sure you will but didn't the Prods force Irish inhabitants off their own land if they couldn't afford to pay their 'landlords' due to the black and tans as well as cromwell. Wasn't Ireland a country recognized before cromwell inflicted soverign rule.
Actually, the reason why Britain have a strong hold on Ireland and breaking Ireland up as you say was because of DERRY, you might call it londonDERRY, correct me if I'm wrong sir
FullIrish: Without the EUs funding Ireland would have inferior infrastructure, All of our motorways were built from EU funds
Will be interesting to see over the coming months how Ireland will get along economically being part of the Eurozone which seems in big trouble.
elsson: Will be interesting to see over the coming months how Ireland will get along economically being part of the Eurozone which seems in big trouble.
Be more interesting to see the British elections, big money spent, Cameron I think his name is, who's footing the bill for your elections, great surge of profits before the election, after that? No vote of confidence, you cant treat an old dog new tricks, x chequered, check mate, Britain was the last country to show improvement from the last quarterly and recession. Election time, whats going to happen in the North of Ireland (baited breath)
Kalimera: Actually I reckon it is because there is no difference between terrorists abd freedom fighters when it comes to killing innocents and that is why my question has not been answered.
Well Irish I take it that you cannot discuss it like an adult and have to resort to childish face pulling.
Kalimera: Actually I reckon it is because there is no difference between terrorists abd freedom fighters when it comes to killing innocents and that is why my question has not been answered.
BECAUSE I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, DAMN IT
sideshowbob: BECAUSE I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, DAMN IT
Well I know that
Kalimera: Well Irish I take it that you cannot discuss it like an adult and have to resort to childish face pulling.
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To be honest, that's pathetic, not so much a traveller after all are you