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Oh its good to hear from you to, i hope all goes well and you win some the comp's, but most of all your enjoying your camera to.

Olympus again updated my camera, the update was mainly directed towards improving its underwater and night photography however the camera seems better in low light conditions (cloudy sky, shadows) it seems to have improved so that's good, proofs in the pudding i think better

Thanks for dropping by, hope everything is working out ok wave

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RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Most western countries still seem to aligning there nations by supporting Regans crap, including offering support for mass murder. The elected liars in this country continue to fantasize America is able to get away with its perception it has a right kill millions to rule world economics, who ignore our constitution and the voice of the people. Personally i think like America, they are morally wrong and heading for bankruptcy and probably loose the looming world conflic

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RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Gunmen are holed up in a Primark store near Paris with up to 10 people inside.

The attack appeared to be a bungled bid to rob the clothing shop, police said on Monday, adding that special forces had been dispatched to the scene.

'Around 6:30 am, two or three armed criminals went into the Primark store for what we think was initially an attempt at armed robbery,' a police source, who wished to remain anonymous, said of the incident at Villeneuve-la-Garenne.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

my sentiments to Chris, giving away Greek Sovereignty into the hands of the same Jackboots you refer to

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is giving her reaction.

We have always said this has always been about a three year programme. Essential changes must be made, complete reform of pensions, privatisation and labour markets.

On the €50bn privatisation fund:

€25bn will be used to recapitalise the banks, which will then be privatised. The fund will be run with European oversight.

"We want to use the best possibilities to privatise, and get the best possible revenue out of these assets. We need to support the programme, we have seen in the past that there have been problems implementing the programmes."

Bailout terms:

"What happens in Greece, has to be in line with what happened with bailouts in previous countries."

She said that debt relief was "out of the question".

Greece anti-austerity:

Greece's February anti-austerity laws will be repealed.

Bridge funding:

ESM will examine bridge funding to help Greece until the deal is ratified.

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Dijsselbloem: Greek assets to be put in fund

The Greek parliament will legislate very quickly on a number issues, which will help bring back trust to member states.

There is agreement that Greek reforms need to be strengthened sooner.

Assets will be transferred to a fund to be set up. The fund will monetise them by privatisation or running them. It will be used to help recapitalise banks.

Once the €25bn needed for recapitalisation is repaid, the remaining funds will be used to bring down debt by 50% and the other 50% for the Greek government to reinvest into Greece."

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

It was earlier reported that the leaders of Greece, Germany, France and the EU had reached a 'compromise' on a bailout deal for Athens at late-night talks on Monday which will now be put to the rest of the eurozone.

Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Francois Hollande and EU president Donald Tusk hammered out the proposal on the sidelines of an emergency summit of the 19 countries that use the euro, a source told AFP.

Tusk's spokesman Preben Aamann said separately on Twitter that the EU leader had reconvened the full summit 'with (a) compromise proposal', but gave no further details.

most recent post from skynews.com.au

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Eurozone leaders have reached a "unanimous" agreement after marathon talks over a third bailout for Greece, EU President Donald Tusk has said.


BRUSSELS—Eurozone leaders said early Monday that they would give Greece another bailout as long as the government of Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras manages to implement a round of punishing austerity measures in the coming days.

News of an agreement hasn't spelt out the extent of the associated pain that goes with acceptance

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

sooner gold standard returns the better, and or, we all just start printing money, to hell with honesty, rules and regulations just sit back and get trampled by the greedy picksthumbs down

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Its the same here, Australian government is stealing in breach of our Constitution half my veterans income support payments.

Worked out during the night America appears to have printed 2 trillion dollar worth of confetti and given it to China laugh America had the printing press's running 24/7 for few years and appears to claim its debt is now only 1.2 trillion, down from 3 + trillion...
1984 Regan claimed currency is no longer linked to gold, money pretty much always been a receipt for gold and money used to have promised to pay written on it, ah but those days gone money is now nothing but confetti useful for as long as you trust the lairs that printed it... frustrated

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RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Greece managed to keep within the strict Maastricht rules for eurozone membership largely because of complex financial deals created by the investment bank which critics say disguised the extent of the country’s outstanding debts.

Greece’s membership of the euro gave it access to billions of easy credit which it was then incapable of paying back, leading to its current crisis. Lenders took its euro membership as a stamp of creditworthiness, but the true state of its economy was far less healthy.

Under Ms Loudiadis’s guidance, Goldman swapped debt issued by Greece in dollars and yen for euros which were priced at a historical exchange rate that made the debt look smaller than it actually was. The swaps reportedly made about 2 per cent of Greece’s debt disappear from its national accounts.

Such deals were not uncommon among smaller countries attempting to enter the eurozone club, but they were stopped by the EU economic statistics agency Eurostat in 2008. Eurostat has said Greece did not report the Goldman Sachs transactions in 2008, when it and other countries were told to restate their accounts.

Two of the men in charge of the debt management agency of Greece at the time have argued the department did not understand what it was buying and lacked the expertise to judge the risks or costs.

One, Christoforos Sardelis, told Bloomberg news agency that Ms Loudiadis offered one swap which had what is known as a “teaser rate”, or three-year grace period. But the Greek official realised three months after signing the deal that it was far more complicated than he first thought – a situation exacerbated by the 9/11 attacks’ downward impact on global interest rates. While Goldman reworked the deal, Greece continued to lose heavily.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

finally the POME's

UK government debt amounts to round £1.56 trillion

£1560000000000 British Pound

that equals

€2169823417327.80 Euro

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

According to Warren Buffett

Total global debt crossed a troubling event horizon by going past the $200 trillion mark last year.
Total world debt over 300 percent annual GDP.

while the Word Debit Clock seys:



At the time I looked said: $056,464,885,178,664

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

While (THINK E&OE) American debit with China is currently

$1261000000000 US Dollar

That equals

€1130298434460.00 Euro

While Japan owes

$1227000000000 US Dollar

that equals

€1099822505220.00 Euro

and Belguiem owes China the usual

$252800000000 US Dollar

and that equals


€226597497408.00 Euro

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

chicken feed
£240000000 British Pound equals

$500114892.90 Australian Dollar

or

€333818987.28 Euro

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

perhaps you better keep your fingers crossed and keep OP Chris happydoh

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

For those interested

Those words will have pleased Mr Putin, who says the United States has an outdated vision of a "uni-polar" world dominated by Washington and wants to show Russia has not been weakened by Western sanctions over its role in the Ukraine crisis.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Perhaps then I am not alone in harboring doubt, i've just noticed this news item, which may indicate others are starting to look more closely for whatever reason at the implications, even if just stated there concerns relate to addition 74 billion loan, might be lot more behind there concerns I think.

Eurozone finance ministers have suspended last-ditch talks on Greece’s bailout, Eurogroup chief Jeroen Dijsselbloem said, describing the negotiations as “very difficult” but making progress.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Earlier in this thread i raised America had written the offending loans that exceeded the EU declared limits on member states borrowings that lead to the Greek default. And I again raise 1934, 1936, 1984 and 1991 and suggest we recall America owes Trillions and will very likely default if the derivative chickens actually come home to roast. It is my understanding the only international accepted manner a country is able to put of repayments of bonds occurs during major international conflicts, and 1984 and 1991 leads to that.

During the time:
When Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks unilaterally declared the debt on the czarist bonds null and void in 1918 they were rendered worthless.

French families were rummaging through attics in a frantic search for the once-useless certificates their great-grandparents might have bought, then tossed into a dark corner in disgust.

Russian President Boris Yeltsin agreed Tuesday to repay a nominal value of between $80 and $100 for each of the 4 million czarist bonds believed to remain in circulation in France or to have survived the European wallpaper fad, for a total payout of around $400 million.

The 30 million bonds issued between 1822 and 1917 would have a current market value, with interest, of about $200 billion.


and
Lenin argued that the world had forfeited the right to collect when a combined U.S., French and British military expedition invaded Russia to overthrow the Bolsheviks.

For decades Soviet leaders staunchly stuck to Lenin's equation: Our cost of repelling the invaders equals the sum of the debt.

Most unhappy with Yeltsin's repayment formula were the French holders of the czarist bonds who had envisioned a financial windfall.

About a century ago the bonds were particularly prominent in Paris, where by 1900 nearly half a million French citizens, ranging from aristocrats to ordinary workers, had bought them as a nest egg for old age and a cushion against inflation.

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RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

i agree, seems there is very little likelihood the interests of the Greeks will arise in even near never-lone distant future, simply because time tested beliefs, e.g. their Ozo DNA, choice of lifestyle would never satisfy others constantly living a sheep-like work work mentality.

Tsipras may be on a very slippery slop, he seems to have betrayed his previously stated position, betrayed his own stated communist beliefs, and betrayed the majority who lodged a clear NO vote.

RE: Do you believe in Reincarnation?

of course, its an impossibility for any physical thing, matter, or energy to become a nothing, quite impossible.
Given our nature is energy, (DNA according to physics) subtle winds according to 23,000 year old Buddhist understanding i'd me completely mad to have not carefully checked up and I did.

Our nature is moving energy which has been migrating from life to life since beginningless time the energy has no possibility of an end time.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

The Greek people never expressed or in any way desired the crazy mentality of the people inhabiting Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Latvia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, or the United Kingdom, don’t think for even one minute the people of Greece envisaged swapping, fleecing tourists, growing olives and fishing for the mentality of particularly those countries.

The establishment of the EU hasn’t allowed for the Greek and couple other member states way of life practiced for hundreds of years. By intervening and imposing harsh financial instruments on every day Greek people to appease the mindset of more go go greedy communities motivated by greed rather than the Greek sort of more lay back lifestyle, likely isn’t some thing Mr and Mrs Greek had in mind when bankers were paid colossal sums of money to clandestinely load the Greeks up with far more than they could chew, mee thinks there will be a backlash against what some will no doubt see as a betrayal.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Its hard to say what will finally happen, i think the Greek people might not be at all happy about the Greek governments offer, therefore what might now occur might not be pretty...

time will tell

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