But I know....the US never had free health care.............
What a massive political speel it was by the DEMs and US liberals. And Europeans that were crying and bleeding over all the proverty striken and dieing people in the US....were taken in as well.
President Obama spoke on health care over 200 times during his election run. I wonder how many time he mentioned HRSA?
The US tried having socialized health care all ready. It's called Medicare (for seniors and disabled people) and Medicaid (for low-income people). It isn't working now. And it won't work in the future.
My sister is disabled and she gets both medicare and medicaid. Her premiums that she much pay to have both of these insurances cost her $500 a month. Add the co-pays of her medicine and she is paying another $100 a month. Some of the services and medicines she needs she cannot get because the government (who runs medicare and medicaid) says she is not sick enough or doesn't need them to exist.
ttom500: Since we are talking health care.....I just learned a few days ago. The US does have a totally free health care provision for low income and persons below the proverty line.
The program has been around from many years under our HRSA.
Under HRSA there are 200 facilities in the US, spread across it.... required by law to provide free health care or low cost health care. The 200 facilities are likely in the countries largest cities. So would would like have to access to over 85% of the countries low income and below the proverty line.
The HRSA program covers everything from dental work to heart surgery to elderly care.
HRSA Facts Administrator Mary K. Wakefield, PhD, RN
Headquarters 5600 Fishers Lane Rockville, MD 20857
Staff 1,860 employees
Budget Authority $7.5 billion in FY 2010
Department HRSA is an agency of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
By DINESH RAMDE Associated Press The Associated Press Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:01 AM EST
Opponents to the governor's bill to eliminate collective bargaining rights for many... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)
Madison, Wis. (AP) — A birthplace of the progressive movement is crackling with a fervor not seen in decades, as students from the famously liberal University of Wisconsin team up with unionized state workers for demonstrations against changes to collective bargaining rights pushed by the state's new Republican governor. The biggest rally yet is expected Saturday, along with an influx of conservative counter-protesters.
As many as 40,000 people swarmed the Capitol on Friday, raising the noise in its rotunda to earsplitting levels as they rallied to block Republican Gov. Scott Walker's efforts to ease Wisconsin's budget woes by cutting many government workers' pay, benefits and bargaining rights.
No stranger to political unrest, Madison has seen activists take to the streets to protest the Vietnam war, support civil rights and oppose cuts in social services. Riots ensued 15 years ago when police clamped down on an annual block party that began as an anti-war protest in 1969.
Some say this week's rallies are unmatched in their sustained, impassioned energy — bolstered by Senate Democrats who fled the state to delay action on Walker's proposal and threatened to stay in hiding for weeks if calls for negotiation go unheeded. State troopers were sent to retrieve the Democratic minority leader from his home Friday, but their knocks went unanswered.
"That's jaw-dropping. This is uncharted," said Mordecai Lee, a UW-Milwaukee political scientist and former state lawmaker who said he's been reminded this week of when motorcycle riders' protest of a helmet law in the late 1970s persuaded legislators to overturn the measure.
Democrats who stayed in Madison on Friday scored their own victory, forcing the state Assembly to adjourn until at least Tuesday without taking a vote on Walker's bill. Republicans, however, have more than enough votes to pass the measure once the Legislature can convene.
The vast majority of the protesters who have for four days filled the Capitol with chanting, drum-beats and anti-Walker slogans have been union workers and their supporters. About 200 spent the night in the Capitol leading up to what police anticipate will be the largest crowds yet Saturday, when conservative counter-protesters are set to arrive by the busload to demand that the bill be passed. Protests have been organized by groups including the Tea Party Patriots, the movement's largest umbrella group, and Americans for Prosperity.
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ttom500: I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.
With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced. right on TT...
the whole thing is a bout a lousy anti human and anti Union repubhead being the governer of that miserable place having THAT as the governer
Just saw on the news about 20 minutes ago that two of the democrat senators who ran to hide in Illinois are now going to be the subject of a recall. For those of you who don't know what this means this means they would be recalled from their jobs and replaced by someone else.
The cost would not be free in America. If this Obamacare ends up becoming the law of the land then you have the government deciding who should live or die. Doesn't sound very free to me. Sounds more like the government trying to play God.
You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude and you did very ABSOLOUTELY worng voting for a Governer who is against Human rights and against Unions and by definition THe most LOUSy choice EVER for Wiconsin and on the same saide as Taliban as Rush Limbaugh and the Entire Dang GOP
Dude that is where you are WRONG. The last governor we had, Governor Doyle, is the one who was against human rights. Doyle is the whole who got us in the mess we are in and that Governor Walker is trying to clean up.
You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude the whole thing is a bout a lousy anti human and anti Union repubhead being the governer of that miserable place having THAT as the governer
Dude, I believe you misunderstood. ttom500 was saying the Dems should be impeached.
Be careful. You are talking about the state I live in and about the Governor I voted for.
Believe it or not. Abraham Lincoln did this one time. When he was in the IL legislator. They were the minority party. Had a vote coming that they were sure to lose. He organized his REP party to flee thru the window of the State Building.
Later he said it was the most dishonorable thing he had ever done and was ashamed for doing so.
This may be true about Lincoln. However, I don't think the Dems who ran and hide are going to admit it is dishonorable in what they are doing.
I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.
With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced
I agree with you. As Governor Walker said the dems should come back to work because they are getting paid to work, not run away and hide.
Hot_Single_Dude: Republicna endorsers cna definately NOT getting Real you see? Being Cocoonised as soon as another lousy Repubhead takes over in America making them really loosing touch with the real world and what is going on aorund them and of course what is going on in other countries
Wis. Assembly plans vote on plan to strip unions By SCOTT BAUER Associated Press The Associated Press Friday, February 18, 2011 10:48 AM EST
Protestors to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's bill to eliminate collective bargaining... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)
Madison, Wis. (AP) — The Wisconsin state Assembly intends to vote on Gov. Scott Walker's proposal to strip collective bargaining rights from nearly all state employees.
Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald said Friday they intend to take up the bill sometime later in the day.
The Senate planned to debate it on Thursday, but all 14 Democrats staged a boycott delaying the action for at least a day. Several of them escaped to northern Illinois for several hours.
Democrats were present in the Assembly when it convened briefly.
Thousands of teachers and others have descended on the Capitol, forcing schools to close due to high absences. Dozens of people have spent the night for three straight nights in the Capitol as a sign of protest.
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You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude Republicna endorsers cna definately NOT getting Real you see? Being Cocoonised as soon as another lousy Repubhead takes over in America making them really loosing touch with the real world and what is going on aorund them and of course what is going on in other countries
By MICHAEL TARM Associated Press The Associated Press Friday, February 18, 2011 1:51 PM EST
Democratic Wisconsin Assembly members cheer on the fourth day of large scale... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)
Chicago(AP) — Democrats who fled Wisconsin to block a vote on a sweeping anti-union bill could stay in hiding for days or even weeks.
Democratic state Sen. Jon Erpenbach (URP'-ehn-bahk) spoke to The Associated Press at a Chicago hotel on Friday. He and fellow Democratic senators left Wisconsin on Thursday to delay the near-certain passage of a bill backed by Republicans and GOP Gov. Scott Walker.
Thousands of protesters have also flocked to the Capitol in Madison, Wis., to demonstrate against the bill.
Erpenbach says there's no fixed date for Democrats to return to Wisconsin. He say all 14 Senate Democrats will meet somewhere in Illinois on Friday. He would not say where or exactly when.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
The Wisconsin State Patrol was dispatched Friday to find a Democratic state senator who fled the Capitol to delay the near-certain passage of a bill to end a half-century of collective bargaining rights for public workers, a measure that's attracted thousands of protesters for four days.
With Democrats saying they won't return before Saturday, it was unclear when the Senate would be able to begin debating Gov. Scott Walker's measure meant to ease the state's budget woes. Democrats who disappeared Thursday at first kept their whereabouts secret, then started to emerge to give interviews and fan the protests.
Senate Republicans convened briefly Friday morning to renew a call to find the Democrats, then recessed. Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, told reporters he has asked the governor to send two state troopers to Senate Democratic Minority Leader Mark Miller's suburban Madison home. He said he believes Miller may be there — he did not elaborate on why he thought that — and Walker agreed to dispatch the officers.
Early Friday, an Associated Press reporter went to Miller's home in Monona, but no one answered the door. In an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Miller said the Democrats "had left the state so we were out of reach of the Wisconsin State Patrol."
By SCOTT BAUER Associated Press The Associated Press Friday, February 18, 2011 3:41 PM EST
Democratic Wisconsin Assembly members cheer on the fourth day of large scale... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)
Madison, Wis. (AP) — Democrats on the run in Wisconsin avoided state troopers Friday and threatened to stay in hiding for weeks, potentially paralyzing a state government they no longer control.
The party's stand against balancing the state's budget by cutting the pay, benefits and collective bargaining rights of public workers is the boldest action yet by Democrats to push back against last fall's GOP wave.
But the dramatic strategy that's clogged the Capitol with thousands of protesters clashes with one essential truth: Republicans told everyone unions would be a target, and the GOP has more than enough votes to pass its plans once the Legislature can convene.
The 14 Senate Democrats left the state Thursday, delaying action in that chamber on a sweeping anti-union bill. Sen. Jon Erpenbach, who was among those who fled, said Friday that the group was prepared to be away for weeks, although he would like the standoff to end as soon as possible.
"That really, truly is up to the governor," he told The Associated Press in an interview Friday at a downtown Chicago hotel. "It's his responsibility to bring the state together. The state is not unified. It is totally torn part."
Erpenbach (URP'-ehn-bahk) accused new Republican Gov. Scott Walker of trying to rush the legislation, calling the governor's style "dictatorial" at times.
"We all didn't want to do this. I didn't want to do this," he added. "The only other option we had to slow things down, was to leave."
All 14 lawmakers planned to meet somewhere near Chicago to discuss their options, said Erpenbach, who said he had not spoken to any Republican lawmakers since leaving.
Meanwhile, massive protests at the state Capitol entered a fourth day as demonstrators vowed to stay as long as was needed to get the concessions they want.
"Hell no, we won't go!" they chanted inside the Capitol as they banged on drums, sat cross-legged in the halls and waved signs comparing Walker to former Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak.
Thousands of teachers have joined the protests by calling in sick, forcing school districts — including the state's largest, in Milwaukee — to cancel classes.
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Post Author: Colleene1024 Faith, I do like reading your links but, do you think you might be able to just post 2-3 paragraphs and then the link? Posting the whole thing takes up alot of space and I'm asking in all due respect
Sure. You are right. Sorry about that everyone. I will do that from now on..only a couple of paragraphs.
This led to the 22 day Operation Cast Lead war between Israel and Hamas in December 2008. This conflict, in my prophetic estimation, is the straw that may end up breaking the camel's back. This conflict caught Hamas' allies with their tales between their legs. None of them were able to do anything but rattle their sabers from the sidelines. This infuriated them as it mocked the fabric of their supposed Arab Nationalism in support of Palestinianism.
However, this is not the case today. Hamas' friends are boldly showing their disdain toward Israel. Turkey, for instance, has severed most of their political ties with Israel. By Turkey's own admission, this is a direct result of Israel's decisive victory in Operation Cast Lead. Additionally, bonafide war pacts were confirmed in December 2009 between Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, and Hamas. This means that should Hamas be attacked by Israel in the future, which holds a high degree of probability, Israel runs the risk of provoking a major Mideast war.
Furthermore, Lebanon's president Michel Suleiman has pledged his support to Hezbollah in the likely event Israel and Hezbollah go toe to toe again. Even Israel's moderate peace partner Jordan's King Abdullah is warning of a summer time 2010 war if a Palestinian - Israeli peace is not achieved immediately.
Jeremiah 12:14-17 informs us that the Arabs of Palestine, i.e. today's Palestinian Refugees, were to be assimilated into their ancient surrounding Arab homelands. The Arab nations that were to assimilate these refugees have chosen to banner their refugee plight rather than bear the burden of their resettlement. Historically many of these Arab nations warred against each other, however today they are unified in their support for Palestinianism and opposition of Zionism.
Palestinianism and Zionism have no common ground. They represent opposing ideologies. Allowing them to coexist is a recipe for disaster. The scripturally supported solution is for the Arabs to support Zionism, abandon Palestinianism, and resettle the Palestinian refugees back into their historical homelands. According to the forthcoming foretold prophetic episodes described in Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38, and elsewhere, this is not the course Israel's modern day enemies apparently take.
Secular world leaders can't fix the Middle East problem because it is a deeply rooted in the supernatural. In the center of the geo-political equation are the three major religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, listed in the order of their advent upon the world scene. Many Jews and Christians believe God gave the disputed Mideast territories to the Jews for their eternal homeland called "Israel". Conversely, the pro-Palestinian Arabs and Persians seek the creation of one final Arab State instead called "Palestine". They perform Islamic Jihad to accomplish this end.
Presently this ideological controversy has pushed the Middle East to the brink of war. Decade old political attempts to resolve the matter through land for peace deals have served to salt the wound. The Promised Land in question is the central issue and threatening to take it from Israel and dangling it like a carrot on a stick in front of the Palestinians is like playing Robin Hood for all the wrong reasons. It portrays Israel as the wealthy villain and the Palestinians as the unjustly impoverished.
Israel in political moves of conciliation has attempted to appease the Arabs and Palestinians by withdrawing from portions of the disputed territories. In May of 2000 Israel unilaterally withdrew from the security zone in Southern Lebanon only to be punished by a 34 day conflict in the summer of 2006 with Hezbollah. Four thousand rockets struck Israeli soil during that conflict. Today, less than four years later, Hezbollah has 15 times as many rockets (60,000) inclusive of scud missiles recently obtained from Syria.
However, the fateful pivotal episode that should lead to the soon coming Mother of all Mideast wars occurred in the summer of 2005. That dreadful August Israel's government experienced enormous pressure from the George W. Bush American administration to unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza. Gush Katif was a bloc of 17 Israeli settlements inside of Gaza at the time. At the risk of provoking an Israeli civil war, these Gush Katif settlers were forced to vacate their homes. Some of them still seek proper assimilation back into Israeli society today.
On the day the last settler was removed from Gush Katif the storm clouds of Hurricane Katrina were forming over the Atlantic. In probable fulfillment of the curse for curse in kind clause contained in Genesis 12:3, America was forced into its own Katrina refugee crisis much like was created in Israel as result of Gush Katif.
That following January 2006 the Palestinians elected the Hamas of the Gaza territory, a vowed enemy of Israel, as their representative government. George Bush did nothing to prevent this from occurring. In fact, he had previously publicly discounted the potential for a Hamas election victory over the Fatah party. Shortly thereafter, Hamas began to indiscriminately lob Katusha rockets into neighboring Israeli cities.
The International Community wants Israel to give back lands captured by the Israeli Defense Forces in the aftermath of the six day war of 1967. According to Genesis 15:18 these territories belong to today's Israeli descendants of Abraham. This Holy Land standoff between Satan and God, played out through the Arabs and Jews, is what the world witnesses almost daily on the 6 o'clock news.
The underpinnings of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict are indelibly rooted in their contemporaneous struggle for religious and geo-political autonomy in the Biblical Promised Land. It is an ideological war between Zionism and Palestinianism.
The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum and later popularized by Theodor Herzl in his 1896 book entitled Der Judenstaat (the Jewish State in German). Zionism, as it was originally understood, advocated the best way to avoid the Anti-Semitism spreading rampantly throughout Europe at the time was to create an independent Jewish State in Palestine.
The word was derived from Mount Zion in Jerusalem, which was the historic symbol of the Jewish homeland since 6th Century BC. Today Zionism banners the Israeli government's view that it is Israel's God given right to possess their fair portion of the Holy Land and to declare a Jewish State therein.
Conversely, Palestinianism is a term the Egyptian born British scholar, Bat Yeor, alludes to in her 2005 book "Eurabia". Palestinianism condenses jihadist values, by promoting the destruction of Israel and the denial of Hebrew biblical history and hence Christianity. It preaches Islamic replacement theology and the Arabization and Islamization of the Holy Land's biblical archeology.
In a nutshell, Zionism promotes the rightful existence of a Jewish State in the Holy Land and Palestinianism vehemently opposes any such State! This is why the Palestinians and the preponderance of their Arab and Persian supporters today refuse to accept Israel's right to exist. In fact, it is almost impossible to find a Palestinian school text book that includes a Middle East map with Israel located upon it.
Additionally, Palestinianism is at the center of Arab Nationalism. The Palestinian refugee plight ignites the Arabs to unite and will ultimately cause many of them to collectively fight against Israel. With each passing conventional Arab – Israeli war or conflict the Palestinianism rally call gains more momentum among Israel's predominately Islamic enemies. Ultimately it seemingly escalates into the climactic concluding Arab – Israeli war foretold to come in Psalm 83.
The point of this thread claims that there is a concerted effort by Israel to infiltrate and alter the foreign policies of the United States.
Posted: 02/13/11
"Islamist-Supporters Infiltrate Obama Admin to Subvert US Security" Islamist-allied operatives appointed by Obama are undermining U.S. security policy – explains counter-Intelligence expert, Prof. Clare Lopez. Aimed at co-opting Americas foreign policy in the Middle East, a network including well-known American diplomats, congressional representatives, figures from academia and the think tank world – with ties to the clerical regime in Tehran – is directing the Obama Administration's policy towards the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Middle East.
I support Obama. Just wanna throw that out there. And not because I am a liberal, or a democrat, but because I am a human being. Everyone screws up every now and then, but he sure screws up less than our previous presidents.
Posted: 02/13/11
"Islamist-Supporters Infiltrate Obama Admin to Subvert US Security" Islamist-allied operatives appointed by Obama are undermining U.S. security policy – explains counter-Intelligence expert, Prof. Clare Lopez. Aimed at co-opting Americas foreign policy in the Middle East, a network including well-known American diplomats, congressional representatives, figures from academia and the think tank world – with ties to the clerical regime in Tehran – is directing the Obama Administration's policy towards the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Middle East.
Ok, with my cool head I will ask what the New World Order has to do with what is going out of control in the Middle East.
Posted: 02/16/11
PROTEST MOVEMENT SPREADING THROUGH EPICENTER: Largest demonstrations in Iran since crackdown
Posted: February 16, 2011 by joelcrosenberg in Uncategorized
German magazine reports that Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader and TV preacher Youssef al-Qaradawi advocates establishing a "United Muslim Nations" as a contemporary form of the caliphate and the only alternative to the hegemony of the West. He hates Israel and would love to take up arms himself. In one of his sermons, he asked God "to kill the Jewish Zionists, every last one of them."
The drama in the epicenter is building. Iran on Tuesday witnessed the largest protests against the government since the crackdown in 2009 after the rigged elections swept Mahmoud Ahmadinejad into power for another four years. Major protests in Bahrain and Yemen, too. Developing….
Actually Britain is Great...now you can't dispute that!!!
I am going to dispute it. I am an American. Lived here all my life. Not only am I proud to be an American...but America is the greatest as far as I am concerned.
P.S. Does the words Revolutionary War ring a bell?
If I met someone realy special and we where compatable, I would ask her to move down here . It's better down here than any place I've ever been . Those of you who have never been here probably don't know what I'm talking about . Friends, relations, and famaly do .
I have a lot of friends from Puerto Rico. From what I know, I would not move to Puerto Rico.
I did move to Virginia once for someone I met a long time ago and I absolutely loved it there.
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RE: Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
You're replying to post made by: ttom500But I know....the US never had free health care.............
What a massive political speel it was by the DEMs and US liberals.
And Europeans that were crying and bleeding over all the proverty striken and dieing people in the US....were taken in as well.
President Obama spoke on health care over 200 times during his
election run. I wonder how many time he mentioned HRSA?
The US tried having socialized health care all ready. It's called Medicare (for seniors and disabled people) and Medicaid (for low-income people). It isn't working now. And it won't work in the future.
My sister is disabled and she gets both medicare and medicaid. Her premiums that she much pay to have both of these insurances cost her $500 a month. Add the co-pays of her medicine and she is paying another $100 a month. Some of the services and medicines she needs she cannot get because the government (who runs medicare and medicaid) says she is not sick enough or doesn't need them to exist.
So much for free health insurance.