It effectively states the basic premise for an open discussion on this same phenomena that is occurring here in the United States.
"Here we have Israel as an internationally recognized thug, keeper of the largest open-air prison on earth, regularly practicing war crimes against civilians, targeting civilian infrastructure and continuously disregarding the Geneva Conventions – virtually unanimously denounced by the international community, by every human rights watch group on the globe, and by international civil society for the last many decades – and how do Canadian politicians and parliamentarians respond?"
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"Zionism represents itself as a political movement concerned principally with the establishment of a state in Palestine to be controlled by and for Jews. It began in the late 19th Century and attained its stated objective with the creation in 1948 of the state of Israel by the United Nations (at the insistence of the United States and without the agreement of existing Middle Eastern states). Subsequently Israel doubled the amount of territory it controlled by means of its illegal occupation of the West Bank in the 1967 and 1973 wars.
In its current form Zionism seeks to dominate all of Palestine and the Middle East by means of violence and the threat of violence (using weapons manufactured and purchased with billions of dollars of "aid" supplied by the United States at taxpayer expense) and to maximize its influence in world affairs and in world history, principally by means of control of the government of the USA (primarily by blackmailing its many corrupt politicians), at the expense of the social wellbeing not only of the Palestinians but of the peoples of all lands."
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Zionism represents itself as a political movement concerned principally with the establishment of a state in Palestine to be controlled by and for Jews. It began in the late 19th Century and attained its stated objective with the creation in 1948 of the state of Israel by the United Nations (at the insistence of the United States and without the agreement of existing Middle Eastern states). Subsequently Israel doubled the amount of territory it controlled by means of its illegal occupation of the West Bank in the 1967 and 1973 wars.
In its current form Zionism seeks to dominate all of Palestine and the Middle East by means of violence and the threat of violence (using weapons manufactured and purchased with billions of dollars of "aid" supplied by the United States at taxpayer expense) and to maximize its influence in world affairs and in world history, principally by means of control of the government of the USA (primarily by blackmailing its many corrupt politicians), at the expense of the social well being not only of the Palestinians but of the peoples of all lands.
Israel has no significant economic exchanges with Canada (America) and performs no significant geopolitical service of benefit to Canada(America); a Canada (America) with virtually no economic ties with the Middle East and a Canada that is a net exporter of oil and gas.
gleneagle: Its amazing what money, a powerful lobby and corruptable goverment can buy and yet the world stands idly by If the liberation of Europe in WW2 was America' finest hour;this sad episode in the middle east will become to be seen as her greatest folly.
Israel has no significant economic exchanges with Canada (America) and performs no significant geopolitical service of benefit to Canada(America); a Canada (America) with virtually no economic ties with the Middle East and a Canada that is a net exporter of oil and gas.Peace
Its a cause for great concern that this malise has spread to Canada as well. Is UK next?
SilverBirch: At the risk of "cut and Paste" insults, yet another quote from the Canadian site. Curiously paralleled.
Peace in Egypt
"Yet, apart from the independent-thinking Bloc Quebecois, it seems that half the time that English-Canadian politicians open their mouths it’s to denounce a “new anti-Semitism” that social scientists and statisticians tell us is a media fabrication or to express Israel’s “right to defend itself” or to declare Canada’s “unwavering support for Israel.” Not to mention Israel’s “right to exist”! 2"
Good point Gleneagle, about Britain, I've watched their stance and am proud to say that from what I've read she seems to be hopelessly watching Americans hang themselves.
Zionism represents itself as a political movement concerned principally with the establishment of a state in Palestine to be controlled by and for Jews. It began in the late 19th Century and attained its stated objective with the creation in 1948 of the state of Israel by the United Nations (at the insistence of the United States and without the agreement of existing Middle Eastern states). Subsequently Israel doubled the amount of territory it controlled by means of its illegal occupation of the West Bank in the 1967 and 1973 wars.
In its current form Zionism seeks to dominate all of Palestine and the Middle East by means of violence and the threat of violence (using weapons manufactured and purchased with billions of dollars of "aid" supplied by the United States at taxpayer expense) and to maximize its influence in world affairs and in world history, principally by means of control of the government of the USA (primarily by blackmailing its many corrupt politicians), at the expense of the social well being not only of the Palestinians but of the peoples of all lands.
Peace
People have opened their eyes, zionism is a dying beast
This is pertinent when considering the recent events in Egypt.
"Zionists claim that Jews have the right to possess all land between the Nile and the Euphrates because (they say) this land was given to them by some entity they call "YHWH" as claimed in the Old Testament (Genesis 15:18). But this would not be the first time that documents written by humans were used to justify land grabs. (And this "YHWH" appears, from accounts in the Old Testament, to be a particularly repulsive entity, vain, jealous, given to fits of rage and directing his followers to massacre civilian populations — an entity who, if he existed, would be quite unworthy of the devotion of anyone with a sense of justice and morality.)"
It effectively states the basic premise for an open discussion on this same phenomena that is occurring here in the United States. "Here we have Israel as an internationally recognized thug, keeper of the largest open-air prison on earth, regularly practicing war crimes against civilians, targeting civilian infrastructure and continuously disregarding the Geneva Conventions – virtually unanimously denounced by the international community, by every human rights watch group on the globe, and by international civil society for the last many decades – and how do Canadian politicians and parliamentarians respond?" Please note that those in opposition to these positions are typically characterized by attacking the poster and not the post. They will come in waves and attempt to incite anger and ramped up rhetoric in attempts to close down the thread.
Please avoid their ruse. Stay on topic. And report any particularly vile insults to the moderators.
Peace
"What's exposed is your ignorant "Joo-hating" progressive agenda. It's pretty pathetic." Gardenhackle
gardenhackle: What's exposed is your ignorant "Joo-hating" progressive agenda. It's pretty pathetic.
Yep but I along with others have debated with S B on this subject many times. This however is the first time he has came out with this idea.
I am sure he thinks I and others will debate this with him but as a wise man once said you cannot cure the blind or hear the dumb through closed ears and the OP has shown he is not here to debate but to push his one sided and totally hateful point to any one who cares to read his posts.
I cannot say he wins many over to his "cause" as he cannot see,hear or speak on the subject with any open even points.
Some prominent cover-up artists have suggested that English Canada politicians are overly preoccupied with pleasing Jewish voters. But there just aren’t enough Jewish voters to explain transforming the Parliament into the embarrassing Zio-zeal fest that it has become, in the face of an opposing world consensus view. In addition there are growing numbers of Jewish Canadians who are critical of Israel and of Canada’s uncritical support for Israel and its policies. 4
patmac: Yep but I along with others have debated with S B on this subject many times. This however is the first time he has came out with this idea.
I am sure he thinks I and others will debate this with him but as a wise man once said you cannot cure the blind or hear the dumb through closed ears and the OP has shown he is not here to debate but to push his one sided and totally hateful point to any one who cares to read his posts.
I cannot say he wins many over to his "cause" as he cannot see,hear or speak on the subject with any open even points.
patmac: Yep but I along with others have debated with S B on this subject many times. This however is the first time he has came out with this idea.
I am sure he thinks I and others will debate this with him but as a wise man once said you cannot cure the blind or hear the dumb through closed ears and the OP has shown he is not here to debate but to push his one sided and totally hateful point to any one who cares to read his posts.
I cannot say he wins many over to his "cause" as he cannot see,hear or speak on the subject with any open even points.
Just a sad bigoted man with an agenda.
I pity him and his followers.
As always JMO
I just don't understand all the hate for Jewish people. Seriously. I just don't get it.
Zionists also lay claim to Palestine because this was territory controlled by two Jewish mini-states, Judah and Samaria, until their destruction by the Romans in the 1st C. CE. To which may be replied: If Zionist claims to a Jewish "homeland" in Palestine, based on Jewish occupation of that area 2000 years ago, are accepted as valid then the claims of North American Indians to their former homeland (all of the United States) and the claims of Australian Aborigines to their former homeland (all of Australia) should also be accepted as valid, and those homelands returned. Not to mention the descendants of the inhabitants of countless mini-states which have risen and fallen over the course of thousands of years of human history. Jews have no more rights than anyone else.
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It effectively states the basic premise for an open discussion
on this same phenomena that is occurring here in the United States.
"Here we have Israel as an internationally recognized thug, keeper of the largest open-air prison on earth, regularly practicing war crimes against civilians, targeting civilian infrastructure and continuously disregarding the Geneva Conventions – virtually unanimously denounced by the international community, by every human rights watch group on the globe, and by international civil society for the last many decades – and how do Canadian politicians and parliamentarians respond?"
Please note that those in opposition to these positions are typically characterized by attacking the poster and not the post.
They will come in waves and attempt to incite anger and ramped up rhetoric in attempts to close down the thread.
Please avoid their ruse. Stay on topic. And report any particularly vile insults to the moderators.
Peace