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Feb 17, 2011 9:57 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
venusenvy: I think that will happen soon Mas...the lion grows old. Castro is beyond ill now. Its like Cuba is holding its breath. I think that it will be a strong trade alliance with Canada/Cuba. I think it will be a looong time before America and Cuba become allies. The Latin memory is very long lived and its not likely to forgive and forget anytime soon.
10-4..I hear ya.wine
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Feb 17, 2011 9:58 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
Colleene1024: Oh Emmy, Pat is a teddy bear as far as I'm concerned...
However when it comes to polotics....Yea...best not mess with him... Right Pat?


if only it were about politics colleene wink laugh
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Feb 17, 2011 10:04 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
gleneagle: Pat is thread slayer. Killed one of mine a week or two ago and me just back from the real world. It was not the welcopme I expected from an old RAF chap. It was not his finest hour


too bogged down in policing others hug
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Feb 17, 2011 10:07 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
gleneagle: Pat is thread slayer. Killed one of mine a week or two ago and me just back from the real world. It was not the welcopme I expected from an old RAF chap. It was not his finest hour


too bogged down in policing others. making sure we all stick to his rules hug
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Feb 17, 2011 10:07 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
gleneagle: Pat is thread slayer. Killed one of mine a week or two ago and me just back from the real world. It was not the welcopme I expected from an old RAF chap. It was not his finest hour


too bogged down in policing others. making sure we all stick to his rules hug
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Feb 17, 2011 10:08 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
gleneagle: Pat is thread slayer. Killed one of mine a week or two ago and me just back from the real world. It was not the welcopme I expected from an old RAF chap. It was not his finest hour


too bogged down in policing others. making sure we all stick to his rules hug
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Feb 17, 2011 10:08 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
gleneagle: Pat is thread slayer. Killed one of mine a week or two ago and me just back from the real world. It was not the welcopme I expected from an old RAF chap. It was not his finest hour


too busy being a drill sargaent laugh
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Feb 17, 2011 10:10 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline
emmalineemmalineatlanta, Georgia USA6 Threads 1,685 Posts
whoops sorry for the stuttersblushing
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Feb 17, 2011 10:13 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Colleene1024: Only you would admit to something like that Conrad!
Can you imagine calling a Fellow of Greek extraction on both sides,being Greek-Orthodox besides,a Zionist and Israeli besides!
Only OP,only OP!rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 17, 2011 10:16 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
gleneagle: Pat is thread slayer. Killed one of mine a week or two ago and me just back from the real world. It was not the welcopme I expected from an old RAF chap. It was not his finest hour


Did I disprove your point. Only way I know of killing a thread of unless it gets locked...grin cheers
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Feb 17, 2011 10:17 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
emmaline: whoops sorry for the stutters
Site hickupped!laugh
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Feb 17, 2011 10:22 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Colleene1024: Only you would admit to something like that Conrad!
Wasn't me callin George Tenet an Israeli Spy,Zionist Warmonger,Jew and US-Zionist-Israeli Citizen!
OP dood that all by himself!grin
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Feb 17, 2011 10:23 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Colleene1024: Oh Emmy, Pat is a teddy bear as far as I'm concerned...
However when it comes to polotics....Yea...best not mess with him... Right Pat?


I just apply my own middle of the road political view and logic,that gives me a non biased and open to all aspects viewpoint.

Sadly too many folk on here push either a left or right wing agenda and never see the whole picture.

As always JMOgrin cheers
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Feb 17, 2011 10:35 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
patmac: I just apply my own middle of the road political view and logic,that gives me a non biased and open to all aspects viewpoint.

Sadly too many folk on here push either a left or right wing agenda and never see the whole picture.

As always JMO


Ahh Come on Pat, Just admit it. grin You're just an auld crabby man who is one sided and refuses to see things from other peoples point of view and will not answer questions. You refuse to prove your theories or back them up either. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Damn, did I just describe someone else or am I imagining things?
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Feb 17, 2011 10:38 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
The International Community wants Israel to give back lands captured by the Israeli Defense Forces in the aftermath of the six day war of 1967. According to Genesis 15:18 these territories belong to today's Israeli descendants of Abraham. This Holy Land standoff between Satan and God, played out through the Arabs and Jews, is what the world witnesses almost daily on the 6 o'clock news.

The underpinnings of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict are indelibly rooted in their contemporaneous struggle for religious and geo-political autonomy in the Biblical Promised Land. It is an ideological war between Zionism and Palestinianism.

The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum and later popularized by Theodor Herzl in his 1896 book entitled Der Judenstaat (the Jewish State in German). Zionism, as it was originally understood, advocated the best way to avoid the Anti-Semitism spreading rampantly throughout Europe at the time was to create an independent Jewish State in Palestine.

The word was derived from Mount Zion in Jerusalem, which was the historic symbol of the Jewish homeland since 6th Century BC. Today Zionism banners the Israeli government's view that it is Israel's God given right to possess their fair portion of the Holy Land and to declare a Jewish State therein.

Conversely, Palestinianism is a term the Egyptian born British scholar, Bat Yeor, alludes to in her 2005 book "Eurabia". Palestinianism condenses jihadist values, by promoting the destruction of Israel and the denial of Hebrew biblical history and hence Christianity. It preaches Islamic replacement theology and the Arabization and Islamization of the Holy Land's biblical archeology.

In a nutshell, Zionism promotes the rightful existence of a Jewish State in the Holy Land and Palestinianism vehemently opposes any such State! This is why the Palestinians and the preponderance of their Arab and Persian supporters today refuse to accept Israel's right to exist. In fact, it is almost impossible to find a Palestinian school text book that includes a Middle East map with Israel located upon it.

Additionally, Palestinianism is at the center of Arab Nationalism. The Palestinian refugee plight ignites the Arabs to unite and will ultimately cause many of them to collectively fight against Israel. With each passing conventional Arab – Israeli war or conflict the Palestinianism rally call gains more momentum among Israel's predominately Islamic enemies. Ultimately it seemingly escalates into the climactic concluding Arab – Israeli war foretold to come in Psalm 83.



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Feb 17, 2011 10:39 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
patmac: I just apply my own middle of the road political view and logic,that gives me a non biased and open to all aspects viewpoint.

Sadly too many folk on here push either a left or right wing agenda and never see the whole picture.

As always JMO




You also have to take into consideration that maybe people see the whole truth differently then you? If people answer questions and back up their theories...Maybe some people are just looking for a discussion and not a debate?

IMHO as always conversing bouquet
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Feb 17, 2011 10:41 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
Secular world leaders can't fix the Middle East problem because it is a deeply rooted in the supernatural. In the center of the geo-political equation are the three major religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, listed in the order of their advent upon the world scene. Many Jews and Christians believe God gave the disputed Mideast territories to the Jews for their eternal homeland called "Israel". Conversely, the pro-Palestinian Arabs and Persians seek the creation of one final Arab State instead called "Palestine". They perform Islamic Jihad to accomplish this end.

Presently this ideological controversy has pushed the Middle East to the brink of war. Decade old political attempts to resolve the matter through land for peace deals have served to salt the wound. The Promised Land in question is the central issue and threatening to take it from Israel and dangling it like a carrot on a stick in front of the Palestinians is like playing Robin Hood for all the wrong reasons. It portrays Israel as the wealthy villain and the Palestinians as the unjustly impoverished.

Israel in political moves of conciliation has attempted to appease the Arabs and Palestinians by withdrawing from portions of the disputed territories. In May of 2000 Israel unilaterally withdrew from the security zone in Southern Lebanon only to be punished by a 34 day conflict in the summer of 2006 with Hezbollah. Four thousand rockets struck Israeli soil during that conflict. Today, less than four years later, Hezbollah has 15 times as many rockets (60,000) inclusive of scud missiles recently obtained from Syria.

However, the fateful pivotal episode that should lead to the soon coming Mother of all Mideast wars occurred in the summer of 2005. That dreadful August Israel's government experienced enormous pressure from the George W. Bush American administration to unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza. Gush Katif was a bloc of 17 Israeli settlements inside of Gaza at the time. At the risk of provoking an Israeli civil war, these Gush Katif settlers were forced to vacate their homes. Some of them still seek proper assimilation back into Israeli society today.

On the day the last settler was removed from Gush Katif the storm clouds of Hurricane Katrina were forming over the Atlantic. In probable fulfillment of the curse for curse in kind clause contained in Genesis 12:3, America was forced into its own Katrina refugee crisis much like was created in Israel as result of Gush Katif.

That following January 2006 the Palestinians elected the Hamas of the Gaza territory, a vowed enemy of Israel, as their representative government. George Bush did nothing to prevent this from occurring. In fact, he had previously publicly discounted the potential for a Hamas election victory over the Fatah party. Shortly thereafter, Hamas began to indiscriminately lob Katusha rockets into neighboring Israeli cities.

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Feb 17, 2011 10:41 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
Faithfulness: The International Community wants Israel to give back lands captured by the Israeli Defense Forces in the aftermath of the six day war of 1967. According to Genesis 15:18 these territories belong to today's Israeli descendants of Abraham. This Holy Land standoff between Satan and God, played out through the Arabs and Jews, is what the world witnesses almost daily on the 6 o'clock news.

The underpinnings of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict are indelibly rooted in their contemporaneous struggle for religious and geo-political autonomy in the Biblical Promised Land. It is an ideological war between Zionism and Palestinianism.

The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum and later popularized by Theodor Herzl in his 1896 book entitled Der Judenstaat (the Jewish State in German). Zionism, as it was originally understood, advocated the best way to avoid the Anti-Semitism spreading rampantly throughout Europe at the time was to create an independent Jewish State in Palestine.

The word was derived from Mount Zion in Jerusalem, which was the historic symbol of the Jewish homeland since 6th Century BC. Today Zionism banners the Israeli government's view that it is Israel's God given right to possess their fair portion of the Holy Land and to declare a Jewish State therein.

Conversely, Palestinianism is a term the Egyptian born British scholar, Bat Yeor, alludes to in her 2005 book "Eurabia". Palestinianism condenses jihadist values, by promoting the destruction of Israel and the denial of Hebrew biblical history and hence Christianity. It preaches Islamic replacement theology and the Arabization and Islamization of the Holy Land's biblical archeology.

In a nutshell, Zionism promotes the rightful existence of a Jewish State in the Holy Land and Palestinianism vehemently opposes any such State! This is why the Palestinians and the preponderance of their Arab and Persian supporters today refuse to accept Israel's right to exist. In fact, it is almost impossible to find a Palestinian school text book that includes a Middle East map with Israel located upon it.

Additionally, Palestinianism is at the center of Arab Nationalism. The Palestinian refugee plight ignites the Arabs to unite and will ultimately cause many of them to collectively fight against Israel. With each passing conventional Arab – Israeli war or conflict the Palestinianism rally call gains more momentum among Israel's predominately Islamic enemies. Ultimately it seemingly escalates into the climactic concluding Arab – Israeli war foretold to come in Psalm 83.
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Faith, I do like reading your links but, do you think you might be able to just post 2-3 paragraphs and then the link? Posting the whole thing takes up alot of space and I'm asking in all due respect. bouquet
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Feb 17, 2011 10:42 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
This led to the 22 day Operation Cast Lead war between Israel and Hamas in December 2008. This conflict, in my prophetic estimation, is the straw that may end up breaking the camel's back. This conflict caught Hamas' allies with their tales between their legs. None of them were able to do anything but rattle their sabers from the sidelines. This infuriated them as it mocked the fabric of their supposed Arab Nationalism in support of Palestinianism.



However, this is not the case today. Hamas' friends are boldly showing their disdain toward Israel. Turkey, for instance, has severed most of their political ties with Israel. By Turkey's own admission, this is a direct result of Israel's decisive victory in Operation Cast Lead. Additionally, bonafide war pacts were confirmed in December 2009 between Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, and Hamas. This means that should Hamas be attacked by Israel in the future, which holds a high degree of probability, Israel runs the risk of provoking a major Mideast war.



Furthermore, Lebanon's president Michel Suleiman has pledged his support to Hezbollah in the likely event Israel and Hezbollah go toe to toe again. Even Israel's moderate peace partner Jordan's King Abdullah is warning of a summer time 2010 war if a Palestinian - Israeli peace is not achieved immediately.



Jeremiah 12:14-17 informs us that the Arabs of Palestine, i.e. today's Palestinian Refugees, were to be assimilated into their ancient surrounding Arab homelands. The Arab nations that were to assimilate these refugees have chosen to banner their refugee plight rather than bear the burden of their resettlement. Historically many of these Arab nations warred against each other, however today they are unified in their support for Palestinianism and opposition of Zionism.



Palestinianism and Zionism have no common ground. They represent opposing ideologies. Allowing them to coexist is a recipe for disaster. The scripturally supported solution is for the Arabs to support Zionism, abandon Palestinianism, and resettle the Palestinian refugees back into their historical homelands. According to the forthcoming foretold prophetic episodes described in Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38, and elsewhere, this is not the course Israel's modern day enemies apparently take.



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Feb 17, 2011 10:43 AM CST Zionist Occupied America
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Colleene1024: Ahh Come on Pat, Just admit it. You're just an auld crabby man who is one sided and refuses to see things from other peoples point of view and will not answer questions. You refuse to prove your theories or back them up either.

Damn, did I just describe someone else or am I imagining things?


I think you have me mixed up with the OP wink but I can be a crabby old sod when folk do nor reply or back up there points.

Mind you the odd person who says the are where they obviously are not can be annoying as well.

But, these things are easily dealt with grin cheers
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