SilverBirch: Peace to you Ms. I realize that it requires a serious personality flaw , like mine and Conrads, to sit here and pour over hours , days, months and even years of wasted energy on a forum that is only viewed by 10 or 15 people at most.
Mine is born out of uncontrollable frustration at the state of affairs in the United States. And further, the , once proud stature of Americans, now being equated to the Zionist war mongers.
They are steering our foreign policies and adversely impacting American and world economies.
Peace
What can I say, one thing leads to another doesn't it?
patmac: If they had access to better weapons they would use them. Using the Rockets is not like kids do on the 4th.
These rockets can and do kill.
The use of the rockets gives the Israeli's the right to retaliate.
Solution.
STOP USING THE ROCKETS AND THEN NO RETALIATION.....Pretty simple really
How about "End the Apartheid" and stealing Palestine lands and then they will stop the resistance??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
SilverBirch: How about "End the Apartheid" and stealing Palestine lands and then they will stop the resistance??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
How about stopping the rockets.
And how about some answers?
And how about getting back on the point of your thread.
gardenhackle: Gina, I've read and seen "many things", too. But what I've seen proposed as an enlightened desire to edcuate people about the horrific dangers of a Zionist conspiracy are extremely short on facts and extremely high on opinion and unsubstantiated rhetoric. If you found some real hard and cold facts that taken entirely on their own in a fair evaluation prove there is, indeed, a sinister "Zionist" force at work controlling the world - or seeking to, then I'd love to see them. But I don't want to hear someone just ranting about their opinion about how the world is. I can do my own analysis and form my own opinions. So what are the facts? You might be able to narrow down the information I should look at because anti-Jewish rhetoric is flippin' everywhere and most of it is just rabid rantings from bigots, which isn't proof of anything except that there's a lot of hate in the world (and we already know that).
Wouldn't matter anyway..... you've got your programming and nothing would dissuade you no matter how much factual information was placed before eyes.
The thing is, I'm not a one trick pony... to get at a truth, sometimes you really need to leave your comfort zone.
This was my truth for today... but we live in fluid changing world.. no doubt there will be another truth tomorrow and the day after that.... another day on planet Earth.
Now how about an answer to the questions posed to you ?
If you have any.You owe me loads and other folk as well.
Hard to get you to answer any question you cannot bend or twist to your point.
Pat, I liked it better when you posted the "Stop being so blinkered about Israels contribution to the state of affairs" when there are other parties that contribute to the fray."
As for answers Pat. You've not posted one idea of your own here ever. You just criticize. How can you expect anyone to give anything you post any credence when it's all fodder?
gardenhackle: Gina, I've read and seen "many things", too. But what I've seen proposed as an enlightened desire to edcuate people about the horrific dangers of a Zionist conspiracy are extremely short on facts and extremely high on opinion and unsubstantiated rhetoric. If you found some real hard and cold facts that taken entirely on their own in a fair evaluation prove there is, indeed, a sinister "Zionist" force at work controlling the world - or seeking to, then I'd love to see them. But I don't want to hear someone just ranting about their opinion about how the world is. I can do my own analysis and form my own opinions. So what are the facts? You might be able to narrow down the information I should look at because anti-Jewish rhetoric is flippin' everywhere and most of it is just rabid rantings from bigots, which isn't proof of anything except that there's a lot of hate in the world (and we already know that).
SilverBirch: Pat, I liked it better when you posted the "Stop being so blinkered about Israels contribution to the state of affairs" when there are other parties that contribute to the fray."
As for answers Pat. You've not posted one idea of your own here ever. You just criticize. How can you expect anyone to give anything you post any credence when it's all fodder?
Totally wrong again S B i have pages and pages of threads. Check my data.
And as for the answers I keep asking you for, when will you ever reply.
You refuse to answer any question you do not like and cannot answer.
This proves you are not here to debate but only to push you none sided and biased viewpoint.
So again answer the questions as they come not as you do the ones that suit you.
Notice I always answer your points.Maybe because I am open and can back up my points with FACTS.
Mind you the facts are usually provided by you and I just point out YOUR ERRORS.
gininitaly: Wouldn't matter anyway..... you've got your programming and nothing would dissuade you no matter how much factual information was placed before eyes.
The thing is, I'm not a one trick pony... to get at a truth, sometimes you really need to leave your comfort zone.
This was my truth for today... but we live in fluid changing world.. no doubt there will be another truth tomorrow and the day after that.... another day on planet Earth.
SilverBirch: Pat, I liked it better when you posted the "Stop being so blinkered about Israels contribution to the state of affairs" when there are other parties that contribute to the fray."
As for answers Pat. You've not posted one idea of your own here ever. You just criticize. How can you expect anyone to give anything you post any credence when it's all fodder?
It effectively states the basic premise for an open discussion on this same phenomena that is occurring here in the United States. "Here we have Israel as an internationally recognized thug, keeper of the largest open-air prison on earth, regularly practicing war crimes against civilians, targeting civilian infrastructure and continuously disregarding the Geneva Conventions – virtually unanimously denounced by the international community, by every human rights watch group on the globe, and by international civil society for the last many decades – and how do Canadian politicians and parliamentarians respond?"
Please note that those in opposition to these positions are typically characterized by attacking the poster and not the post. They will come in waves and attempt to incite anger and ramped up rhetoric in attempts to close down the thread.
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SilverBirch: Pat have any counter to these allegations?
Plenty you have dragged the thread away from its point with all this talk of Rockets launched and all the reat of the rubbish about why the war was fought.
I have asked you to get back to the point of your thread on more than one occasion.
So get back to it if you can and explain to me and the rest of us on here how less than 15% of the voting senators and congress can run America???
SilverBirch: Israel spends Billions of US tax dollars buying political positions in the United States government. This is espianage. Spying. Is it not?
Would that be the "MILLIONS IT GETS FROM THE USA" ???
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Mine is born out of uncontrollable frustration at the state of affairs in the United States. And further, the , once proud stature of Americans, now being equated to the Zionist war mongers.
They are steering our foreign policies and adversely impacting
American and world economies.
Peace
What can I say, one thing leads to another doesn't it?