Here's a cut and paste you might consider over Christmas gnome. It illustrates (in my view) what is wrong with this otherwise interesting thread.....
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.
That said, happy Christmas to you and yours and to Ray and his. The same to Trish and all others on the thread.
The deepest problems of Society can be solved by Santa Claus....vote me and Santa Claus will give you all sugar canes and chocolate reindeer for Christmas!
RE: Thread Hi-Jackers Anonimous Meeting
Konig what did you buy me for Christmas?