The original post asked the question "Is Israel a partner for Peace or are they poised in a Quest for Global Domination
I can say that given their refusal to stop settlement building on occupied land and refuse to accept the concept of East Jeruselem as a potential capital then it's obvious that they have no intention of making peace with its Arab neighbors.
Are they pineing for a stab at Global Domination?
They have 200 nuclear warheads. They refuse to cooperate with the international community. They continue to send out hit squads into other countries, killing people, sometimes the wrong people.
Sounds to me like they have no intention of working with other nations towards peace.
So it seems the debate is closed.
Again, Nuclear warfare is not the answer.
Again, Palestinians have a right to a homeland.
Again, Pray for the children of Israel and Palestine
Ok ttom, So if a neighboring country is going to attack Israel their going to line up and charge across the desert,...? And if so Israel is going to use a nuclear bomb to wipe them out?
Lets think of this abstractly first. Ummm,..Nuclear bomb, 150 miles from Israel, awe, that oughta work right!
Remember, ttom, the Arabs know about the 200 nuke warheads Israel has, (remember ttom, they had cameras in the hotel in Dubai too ttom,!!)
Shift your yoga position ttom,..In scenario number, ummm,.lets say,,10,028 they might entertain a frontal attack option.
Or then again no,.. What part of Nuclear Catastrophe don't you understand ttom?
What scenario in your mind would warrent a nuclear responce?
Please list these for me would you?
And getting back to the rightful heirs to Israel, ummm so we have migratory tribesmen throughout the region and eventually some of them settled down,.. some of them are defeated in battle and others are cast out ,..we won't go there,.. nonetheless there is NO CLEAR AND EVIDENT TITLE TO THE LAND UNTIL THE BRITISH PULL OUT IN 1948,
I don't suppose we can agree on this one can we ttom,.
We're stuck on the "this land was given to the Jews by GOD"
Which I'm good with.
What I'm talking about is the West Bank and Gaza.
These LANDS, TODAY,, THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY agrees belongs to the Palestinians.
East Jeruselem, is an appropriate Capital for the Palestinians
Most people in the world think this is a fair solution to the delema,,,Think about this.
It is a term used most often when refering to a person or people that are trying to "TRICK" OR "CONFUSE" ANOTHER PERSON.
You see ttom, all your rehtoric is FLIM-FLAM.
First off, the days of massing armies,(to which Israel would nuke them) are over. There are no more Blitzkrieg offensives Their time has come and gone.
So your first post defending Israels 200 nuclear warheads is
PURE FLIM FLAM
Israel has to JOIN THE REST OF THE WORLD AND LAY DOWN THEIR
NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!!!! STUDY THIS STATEMENT TTOM.
And secondly ttom, Your flim-flam about whose is rightful heir to the lands of Israel and Palestine,..
IS FLIM-FLAM
They both have rights to this land and they EACH should be given their own soveriegnty. East Jeruselem SHOULD BE THE PALESTINIAN CAPITAL
Israel is LAND GRABBING
ISRAEL IS NOT A PARTNER FOR PEACE AS LONG AS THIS LAND GRABBING CONTINUES!!!
What part of LAND GRABBING CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND TTOM?????
Please sir, you seem to be an intellegent man, you must see the fallacy in your own posts.
So tell me why a country (Israel) must have 200 nuclear weapons when they are the size of Texas? There is something terribly wrong with this picture. Particularly given their vicious methods of disproportionate military reprisals and their un-willingness to conform to international standards on Nuclear Proliferation
Israel has 200 nuclear weapons. And refuses to cooperate with the rest of the world. This is cause for great concern. Given Isreals pattern of insidious horror in their military campaigns the whole world must be watching their every move. Because, yes bullets, bombs and nucks kill all with equal effect and ease.
Try 200 plus,.and even then you'd NEVER EVER get a straight answer out of them anyway.
The entire world know the only thing on Israels agenda is expansion. Nothing else matters. They don't want to demilitarize. They love unrest. They have no respect for any other government, including the US. They spy on us the most! Steal top secret information. Its the biggest con job ever!!
I honestly feel Israel and her "I am a rock in a sea of dispare" atittude as a REAL AND GENUINE THREAT to a world that is united in agreement THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY NUKES Yes I too have a voice and will continue to advocate peace,..in Israel, and elsewhere.
Don't like it leave the Forum because I'm not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And with that they forfited any and all property rights. Is that correct?
With that said would it not be consistant to say that the modern day Palestinians are valid in their charge that It IS their land that is being taken away?
Many posts ago I spoke of this phenomenon. Yes we slaughtered the indiginous people. That is well documented. And yes, with that no American is justified in condeming any other state thats is guilty of genocide.
That DOES NOT MAKE GENOCIDE OK
I went on to say that a curious thing has happened here in the US. Now that we've wiped out the indiginous people, everyone is very proud of any fragment of American Indian liniage they might have!
I'm 1/16th Cherokee, or My grandmother was 1/2 Comanche, and so on.
And I said, I wonder when the Israelis finally wipe out the Palestinians, will they to talk of their "bravery, and resorcefulness, their honor,..
Ummm, emigrated to get away,..?? Is that like advanceing to the rear? Anyway, I think you just might be dodgeing the point I'm trying to make here which is
Diaspora, Cast out, forced out , and why were they forced out
RE: Israel: Partner for Peace or Quest for Global Domination
ttom,The original post asked the question "Is Israel a partner for Peace or are they poised in a Quest for Global Domination
I can say that given their refusal to stop settlement building
on occupied land and refuse to accept the concept of East Jeruselem as a potential capital then it's obvious that they
have no intention of making peace with its Arab neighbors.
Are they pineing for a stab at Global Domination?
They have 200 nuclear warheads. They refuse to cooperate with the international community. They continue to send out hit squads into other countries, killing people, sometimes the wrong people.
Sounds to me like they have no intention of working with other nations towards peace.
So it seems the debate is closed.
Again, Nuclear warfare is not the answer.
Again, Palestinians have a right to a homeland.
Again, Pray for the children of Israel and Palestine