USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

I am allowed 10 good ideas a year...I guess I only have 9 left for the rest of this year...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

got to be careful...I may have to requset an increase...tongue

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing YEP...or :openmouthincertfoot: rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

WOOHOO....I like the sound of that...LOL...I just may have to visit you in your tent...smitten



rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

we know who's tent we are gonna party in then don't we...head banger head banger

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

I don't think they would like that much...but there is a campground that is close...laugh

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

pretty good today hon...thanks for asking...

how are you? are you behaving????rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

scold NO SLEEPING ON PARK BENCHES scold


it might rain...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

blushing I am flattered that you asked blushing

USA MEET~~~~ROOM SHARING....

I have had several requests from ppl that want to share a room to help with costs...

if you are looking for a room mate for the get together...please post here and let everyone know....

some are wanting to arrive early or stay after for sight seeing...please let that be known as well...that way, you won't have to switch rooms...

I have already chatted with managment at the hotel...they are willing to give the same room rate for CS members that will visiting longer than just the weekend...

USA CS GET-TOGETHER, St Louis, Missouri, April 4-6, 2008

HECK YEAH IT IS!!!!!

3months and counting....can we speed up time???? laugh I can't wait....I think there are some of us that could use the good time that is expected....

I for one cant wait...grin

RE: THE LAW IS THE LAW!

yay yay yay

RIGHT ON!!!

I agree 100% with this thread.....thank you for sharing it

May God Bless each and everyone who reads this.

USA CS GET-TOGETHER, St Louis, Missouri, April 4-6, 2008

rough...I am really glad to be home....I don't have to work til monday now...banana cheering banana

USA CS GET-TOGETHER, St Louis, Missouri, April 4-6, 2008

Hi BEB....how are you tonight?


Hi Martywave You doing ok?

USA CS GET-TOGETHER, St Louis, Missouri, April 4-6, 2008

your safe hon....already told him...if he gets involved with anyone before he gets here....they have to understand...it will be like it all happened before they met...cause we are planning it that way....LOL...

USA CS GET-TOGETHER, St Louis, Missouri, April 4-6, 2008

Ok guys....exactly 3 months from now...we will be partying and having a great time...dancing dancing

I am sooooo excited...I can hardly wait....

Here ya go tool, here is your countdown....3 months til major party time..yay yay

USA CS GET-TOGETHER, St Louis, Missouri, April 4-6, 2008

It will be...are you going to join in on the fun????wave

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

WOW...your response blew me away...thanks for putting in your opinion....I like the way you think...thumbs up

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

dualy noted on the cost issue...I understand your point there...I am trying to figure out how things changed so much...

is it the fact that the laws have changed to favor the criminal so much...or that the punishment no longer fits the crime???


there are many factors that play into it...and yes....lawyers are to blame as well....they were the ones that have fought for the courts to change their opinions on the way a criminal should be treated...


what are your thoughts on that?

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

I don't see anything wrong with what you are saying here Ken...I agree with it...


Thank you for your inputcheers

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

I am not trying to argue with you... I am trying to understand your point of view....

the cost is a HUGE factor here....concider the other things that the money could be used for....in 2001, there was almost $40 BILLION DOLLARS spent on keeping inmates in prisions and jails and the facilities that these inmates stayed in, in good repair...

take just 1/2 of that....$20 BILLION DOLLARS....that could have been used to educate our children, help house the homeless, help to retrain a person who has been injured or downsized...there are SO MANY POSITIVE things that could be done with that money...so much good

I am not saying that the life of an inmate is completely worthless...but why should they be allowed to live in a luxury condition i.e. having airconditioning, cable T.V. state of the art weight rooms, phone privlliges and other creature comforts, when the reasons that they are there may varry...they are still the same....THEY BROKE THE LAW..... so they should lose more than just their freedom....

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

ok Dom...here is a website that is from the US....it breaks down the costs per inmate on a daily and yearly basis....wich is MORE than what you were talking about earlier....




in this artical for 2001, the average cost to keep 1 prisoner in jail for a year was $22, 650.

I don't know about you...but that is way too much money.....that is double what some ppl's annual income is

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

who's life is worth more??? someone who will take advantage of chance given them to harm another...


or someone that will take advantage of chance given them to better themselves and then teach others???

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.


this is what it is saying it costs to keep 1 prisoner in prison for a year....

that is more money than a lot of ppl make in one year....



...so it is ok to take from them, the ones that are at or below the poverty level and let these criminals live a better life on the inside than most do on the outside????

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

my last post...was only dealing with Canada.....

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

I had to go back into some files....but I knew I had this somewhere...


The Costs of Incarceration

Correctional services expenditures totalled $2.8 billion in 2004/2005, up 2% in constant dollars from 2003/2004. Custodial services (prisons) accounted for the largest proportion (71%) of the expenditures, followed by community supervision services (14%), headquarters and central services (14%), and National Parole Board and provincial parole boards (2%). This figure does not include policing or court costs which bring the total expenditures up to more than $10 billion for the year.
Cost of incarcerating a Federal prisoner: $259.05 per prisoner/per day
Cost of incarcerating a Federal female prisoner: $150,000-$250,000 per prisoner/per year
Cost of incarcerating a Federal male prisoner: $87,665 per prisoner/per year
Cost of incarcerating a provincial prisoner: $141.78: per prisoner/per day
The cost of alternatives such as probation, bail supervision and community supervision range from $5-$25/day.



now how is it cheeper to keep them alive than to carry out their death sentance????

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

good point...I need to think on this just a bit...I will get back to you very soonthumbs up

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

I fully understand where you are coming from with this...but if you were to take the actions that you are think of....then what really makes you any different from them....I am curious, if I am wrong...I can admit it...I personally do not see the difference...dunno

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

that makes you no better than the criminals we are talking aboutscold

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

Ok, so I am going to take this to the far extreme now....

You say that the death penalty should be abolished...lets say that it has been...

so now, we have the prision system that is already overflowing and in danger of bursting at the seams...now we are going to throw in the ppl that were at one time sentanced to die for their crimes into the mix....

as tax payers, we pay for the health care, food, clothing, cable, attorney costs, wieghts for them to work out with, water, gas, electric and anything else that the prisonier needs..

while my tax dollars are paying for this criminal, who could not abid by the laws that govern the state, country and world that the rest of us law abiding citizens live in...I am struggling to pay for my water, gas, electricity, put food on my table for my family and attempt to improve my life....

but that now becomes impossible, why you are asking, because the criminal has more rights than a law abiding citizen does...and it is becoming worse every day...

think on that, and then let me know if you believe that it is FAIR to the average person who does not break the law to have to suffer and have to pay for someone that has broken the law and most likely if given the chance, will break the law again...

just something to think about...

RE: What are two sides of the death penalty?

DO ppl really think that ANY crime can carry the death penalty?????

in your words "Absolutely. Here is where the death penalty should be implemented without argument. If one is convicted of a crime or crimes against humanity of the most heinous, inhuman kind that merit a term or terms of imprisonment well beyond the span of human life, they should be executed: forfeiture of life."


implying that the death penalty is used on a whim by the states....

as I said in my first post....there are certian circumstances that must be met before the state can request the death penalty in ANY case...if the criteria is not met....then the death penalty is not even allowed to be concidered

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