the IDF video is a fake (39)
Ray. Are you sure of this? Could you possibly explain how the Al Jazeera journalist Jamal Elshayyal cooperated with the IDF for this 'fake' simulation of the actual boarding. He is seen in second 37 with his face partially turned to the left of the screen.
As well, who is the fine actor turned stunt man that should be credited for allowing himself to be thrown head first over the side of the ship?
As well, who is the fine actor turned stunt man that should be credited for allowing himself to be thrown head first over the side of the ship?
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But this is way worse!
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Yet another conspiracy theory...........
Ray you would make a good fisherman..........
Ray you would make a good fisherman..........
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Blues63: Thanks for that! Priceless!
Just goes to show,if you find some Info on the Web,a Grain of Salt is not enough,sometimes you need a Whole Saltmine! Especially with those convoluted Conspiracy Theories!
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I do so enjoy a good morning laugh with my cup of tea...so thanks for providing that this morning Ray.
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Costapacket: Yet another conspiracy theory...........
Ray you would make a good fisherman..........
Mainly for TILAPIA!Ray you would make a good fisherman..........
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Albertaghost: Ray. Are you sure of this? Could you possibly explain how the Al Jazeera journalist Jamal Elshayyal cooperated with the IDF for this 'fake' simulation of the actual boarding. He is seen in second 37 with his face partially turned to the left of the screen.
yeah right, you recognized him right????
No way José.
At second 37 there are 2 men with their faces turned partially to the left of the screen. Both are wearing identical white life vests and aot least one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
You may well indeed have "heard" that one of the men in the video is the Al Jazeera reporter you mentioned. That wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't even surprise me if Al Jazeera confirmed the claim.
Al Jazeera, located in Qatar, headquarters of the entire American Middle East military presence, is, and always was, the voice of the CIA in the middle east.
Albertaghost:
As well, who is the fine actor turned stunt man that should be credited for allowing himself to be thrown head first over the side of the ship?
As well, who is the fine actor turned stunt man that should be credited for allowing himself to be thrown head first over the side of the ship?
Well, they could easily have dragged in a Palestinian from Gaza to the filmsite and thrown him over the rail. But my guess is they splurged and prepared a dummy for the role. All we see is that (whatever it was) disappears from view. It's probably ony two feet down to a net or platform or cushion or whatever. That's the way it's done in the movies. And this is certainly a movie.
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RayfromUSA: yeah right, you recognized him right????
No way José.
At second 37 there are 2 men with their faces turned partially to the left of the screen. Both are wearing identical white life vests and aot least one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
You may well indeed have "heard" that one of the men in the video is the Al Jazeera reporter you mentioned. That wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't even surprise me if Al Jazeera confirmed the claim.
Al Jazeera, located in Qatar, headquarters of the entire American Middle East military presence, is, and always was, the voice of the CIA in the middle east.
Well, they could easily have dragged in a Palestinian from Gaza to the filmsite and thrown him over the rail. But my guess is they splurged and prepared a dummy for the role. All we see is that (whatever it was) disappears from view. It's probably ony two feet down to a net or platform or cushion or whatever. That's the way it's done in the movies. And this is certainly a movie.
No way José.
At second 37 there are 2 men with their faces turned partially to the left of the screen. Both are wearing identical white life vests and aot least one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
You may well indeed have "heard" that one of the men in the video is the Al Jazeera reporter you mentioned. That wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't even surprise me if Al Jazeera confirmed the claim.
Al Jazeera, located in Qatar, headquarters of the entire American Middle East military presence, is, and always was, the voice of the CIA in the middle east.
Well, they could easily have dragged in a Palestinian from Gaza to the filmsite and thrown him over the rail. But my guess is they splurged and prepared a dummy for the role. All we see is that (whatever it was) disappears from view. It's probably ony two feet down to a net or platform or cushion or whatever. That's the way it's done in the movies. And this is certainly a movie.
Thats it Ray never say die..........
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RayfromUSA: The Israelis took the Freedom flotilla into port and kept the peace advocates from any contact with reporters.
Meanwhile the Israeli spin machine went into action to fabricate a justification for their having murdered 2O innocent people.
The result is worthy of Dubya Bush and his various Bin Ladin not-so-lookalike videos.
12 hours after the assault Israel released a video that they claim shows the IDF being violently attacked by the peace advocates. (unlikely as that sounds, it's the IDF's story)
Why the video is a fake.
1. There is no genuine violence shown in the video just a lot of motion. It doesn't show a single case of anyone actually being hit by anything at all. We're supposed to assume that it's happening outside of our vision (like in stage magic). And they even tell us what we are supposed to imagine seeing with notes on the screen.
2. It's not even the right ship.
The peace ship has a metal framework support for a shade awning that covers nearly the entire outside deck.
There is no sign of that awning in the IDF video.
The framework can be seen in this video from 1:08 to 1:15.
3. Fake wave motion.
Although they tried to fake wave motion by moving the camera around and rolling it from side to side, there is zero variation of relative vertical position between the ship being filmed and the ship from which the film was supposedly made. When the photographer stops moving the camera the two boats don't have any relative motion to each other.
That's impossible at sea.
4. Fake infrared
The hijacking occurred at night but the video was clearly made in broad daylight.
They have photoshopped in a lot of brightness and contrast trying to fake Infrared night photography. But the result isn't even close. Genuine infrared photography has almost zero halftones. Every pixel is either black or white. The IDF video is full of halftones.5. The passengers fully knew they would be arrested and that was their stated intention.
Why in the world would they attack armed assault troops when they wanted to be arrested as a means of protesting Israel's inhumanity. Why would they court death and destroy the very reason for their coming in the first place?
Compare for yourself
genuine nighttime infrared video versus daylight video bleached out to supposedly simulate infrared.
1. genuine infrared video taken from the helicopter.
(starts after several seconds)
notice, there are no halftones at all
everything is either black or white.
2. the faked IDF video, obviously taken in broad daylight and then photo-edited to try to fake infrared night video.
notice that it's full of halftonesAlso.
Watch the real aerial video carefully again and watch for any sigh of the supposed violence on the faked IDF video.
I couldn't see any sign whatsoever of passenger violence on the genune video. The passengers are obviously frightened and they obey orders to move, stop, and lie down.
Meanwhile the Israeli spin machine went into action to fabricate a justification for their having murdered 2O innocent people.
The result is worthy of Dubya Bush and his various Bin Ladin not-so-lookalike videos.
12 hours after the assault Israel released a video that they claim shows the IDF being violently attacked by the peace advocates. (unlikely as that sounds, it's the IDF's story)
Why the video is a fake.
1. There is no genuine violence shown in the video just a lot of motion. It doesn't show a single case of anyone actually being hit by anything at all. We're supposed to assume that it's happening outside of our vision (like in stage magic). And they even tell us what we are supposed to imagine seeing with notes on the screen.
2. It's not even the right ship.
The peace ship has a metal framework support for a shade awning that covers nearly the entire outside deck.
There is no sign of that awning in the IDF video.
The framework can be seen in this video from 1:08 to 1:15.
3. Fake wave motion.
Although they tried to fake wave motion by moving the camera around and rolling it from side to side, there is zero variation of relative vertical position between the ship being filmed and the ship from which the film was supposedly made. When the photographer stops moving the camera the two boats don't have any relative motion to each other.
That's impossible at sea.
4. Fake infrared
The hijacking occurred at night but the video was clearly made in broad daylight.
They have photoshopped in a lot of brightness and contrast trying to fake Infrared night photography. But the result isn't even close. Genuine infrared photography has almost zero halftones. Every pixel is either black or white. The IDF video is full of halftones.5. The passengers fully knew they would be arrested and that was their stated intention.
Why in the world would they attack armed assault troops when they wanted to be arrested as a means of protesting Israel's inhumanity. Why would they court death and destroy the very reason for their coming in the first place?
Compare for yourself
genuine nighttime infrared video versus daylight video bleached out to supposedly simulate infrared.
1. genuine infrared video taken from the helicopter.
(starts after several seconds)
notice, there are no halftones at all
everything is either black or white.
2. the faked IDF video, obviously taken in broad daylight and then photo-edited to try to fake infrared night video.
notice that it's full of halftonesAlso.
Watch the real aerial video carefully again and watch for any sigh of the supposed violence on the faked IDF video.
I couldn't see any sign whatsoever of passenger violence on the genune video. The passengers are obviously frightened and they obey orders to move, stop, and lie down.
you did this analysis yourself or posted it from elsewhere ?
pp
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Costapacket: Thats it Ray never say die..........
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Steve5721: I do so enjoy a good morning laugh with my cup of tea...so thanks for providing that this morning Ray.
My pleasure.
Enjoy your tea.
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RayfromUSA: yeah right, you recognized him right????
No way José.
At second 37 there are 2 men with their faces turned partially to the left of the screen. Both are wearing identical white life vests and aot least one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
You may well indeed have "heard" that one of the men in the video is the Al Jazeera reporter you mentioned. That wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't even surprise me if Al Jazeera confirmed the claim.
No way José.
At second 37 there are 2 men with their faces turned partially to the left of the screen. Both are wearing identical white life vests and aot least one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
You may well indeed have "heard" that one of the men in the video is the Al Jazeera reporter you mentioned. That wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't even surprise me if Al Jazeera confirmed the claim.
Here is the guy just before from a different angle.
Read and weep Ray.
RayfromUSA: Al Jazeera, located in Qatar, headquarters of the entire American Middle East military presence, is, and always was, the voice of the CIA in the middle east.
Holy Ray! You are a player aintcha? Got all the bases covered.
RayfromUSA: Well, they could easily have dragged in a Palestinian from Gaza to the filmsite and thrown him over the rail. But my guess is they splurged and prepared a dummy for the role. All we see is that (whatever it was) disappears from view. It's probably ony two feet down to a net or platform or cushion or whatever. That's the way it's done in the movies. And this is certainly a movie.
Sure it is Ray. You got more moves than Magic Johnson.
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Albertaghost: Read and weep Ray.
Holy Ray! You are a player aintcha? Got all the bases covered.
Sure it is Ray. You got more moves than Magic Johnson.
Holy Ray! You are a player aintcha? Got all the bases covered.
Sure it is Ray. You got more moves than Magic Johnson.
Hate to admit it but I couldn't have answered him better myself. Ray could write a never ending X-files series with little trouble.
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wulfen: Hate to admit it but I couldn't have answered him better myself. Ray could write a never ending X-files series with little trouble.
Yes its becoming clear that its all been a propaganda exercise.
The flottia funded by people with contact with Hamas.
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Costapacket: Yes its becoming clear that its all been a propaganda exercise.
The flottia funded by people with contact with Hamas.
The flottia funded by people with contact with Hamas.
I heard it was Walt Disney and Mr Bean?
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My first post (greatly condensed and slightly edited for clarity)
Why the video is a fake.
1. There is no genuine violence shown in the video just a lot of motion.
2. It's not even the right ship.
The peace ship has a metal framework support for a shade awning that covers nearly the entire outside deck.
3. Fake wave motion.
...the two boats don't have any relative motion to each other.
4. Fake infrared
The hijacking occurred at night but the video was clearly made in broad daylight.
5. The passengers fully knew they would be arrested and that was their stated intention. Why would they court death and try to avoid the very reason that they stated they had come for in the first place?
Compare for yourself
1. genuine infrared video taken from the helicopter.
2. the faked IDF video, obviously taken in broad daylight and then photo-edited to fake infrared night video.
notice that it's full of halftones
Also.
Watch the real aerial video again and try to spot any sign of the supposed violent assault on the part of peace activists.
It's not there.
So that was my first post of this thread repeated here and I still stand by every word, and I consider it to be verified by your own post showing the metal framework that is totally missing from the fake video.
Why the video is a fake.
1. There is no genuine violence shown in the video just a lot of motion.
2. It's not even the right ship.
The peace ship has a metal framework support for a shade awning that covers nearly the entire outside deck.
3. Fake wave motion.
...the two boats don't have any relative motion to each other.
4. Fake infrared
The hijacking occurred at night but the video was clearly made in broad daylight.
5. The passengers fully knew they would be arrested and that was their stated intention. Why would they court death and try to avoid the very reason that they stated they had come for in the first place?
Compare for yourself
1. genuine infrared video taken from the helicopter.
2. the faked IDF video, obviously taken in broad daylight and then photo-edited to fake infrared night video.
notice that it's full of halftones
Also.
Watch the real aerial video again and try to spot any sign of the supposed violent assault on the part of peace activists.
It's not there.
So that was my first post of this thread repeated here and I still stand by every word, and I consider it to be verified by your own post showing the metal framework that is totally missing from the fake video.
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my second post of this thread , reposted (condensed)
Albertaghost: ...the Al Jazeera journalist Jamal Elshayyal ...is seen in second 37 with his face partially turned to the left of the screen.
yeah right, you recognized him right????
No way José.
At second 37 (of the fake violence video) there are 2 men...one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
Al Jazeera, located in Qatar, headquarters of the entire American Middle East military presence, is, and always was, the voice of the CIA in the middle east.
Still just as true as it ever was.
Al Jazeera was created with the Iraq invasion in mind, way back in the early 80s. That's how long the invasion was being planned.
Albertaghost:
who is the fine actor turned stunt man that should be credited for allowing himself to be thrown head first over the side of the ship?
..., they could have dragged in a Palestinian from Gaza to the filmsite and thrown him over the rail. But my guess is they splurged and prepared a dummy for the role.
And if I can find software to capture that sequence and repost it to youtube I will point out in grand detail that the "thing" they slid off the deck is not even a person. There is no head, no body, just a vague shape that actually seems to fall apart during the sequence and a very fake leg with a boot stuck on it that never once moves of its own accord during the sequence. And there is a glove pretending to be a hand. As the "item is slid from the deck it loses any resemblance whatsoever to a human body. Just wait I'll post the whole sequence frame by frame to support what I'm saying here.
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Albertaghost: ...the Al Jazeera journalist Jamal Elshayyal ...is seen in second 37 with his face partially turned to the left of the screen.
yeah right, you recognized him right????
No way José.
At second 37 (of the fake violence video) there are 2 men...one of them is wearing an Israeli night vision mask (possibly both). That's how bad the image is, you can't even tell. So don't try to tell me that you (or anyone else) recognize the face of anybody on the ship.
Al Jazeera, located in Qatar, headquarters of the entire American Middle East military presence, is, and always was, the voice of the CIA in the middle east.
Still just as true as it ever was.
Al Jazeera was created with the Iraq invasion in mind, way back in the early 80s. That's how long the invasion was being planned.
Albertaghost:
who is the fine actor turned stunt man that should be credited for allowing himself to be thrown head first over the side of the ship?
..., they could have dragged in a Palestinian from Gaza to the filmsite and thrown him over the rail. But my guess is they splurged and prepared a dummy for the role.
And if I can find software to capture that sequence and repost it to youtube I will point out in grand detail that the "thing" they slid off the deck is not even a person. There is no head, no body, just a vague shape that actually seems to fall apart during the sequence and a very fake leg with a boot stuck on it that never once moves of its own accord during the sequence. And there is a glove pretending to be a hand. As the "item is slid from the deck it loses any resemblance whatsoever to a human body. Just wait I'll post the whole sequence frame by frame to support what I'm saying here.
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Meanwhile the Israeli spin machine went into action to fabricate a justification for their having murdered 2O innocent people.
The result is worthy of Dubya Bush and his various Bin Ladin not-so-lookalike videos.
12 hours after the assault Israel released a video that they claim shows the IDF being violently attacked by the peace advocates. (unlikely as that sounds, it's the IDF's story)
Why the video is a fake.
1. There is no genuine violence shown in the video just a lot of motion. It doesn't show a single case of anyone actually being hit by anything at all. We're supposed to assume that it's happening outside of our vision (like in stage magic). And they even tell us what we are supposed to imagine seeing with notes on the screen.
2. It's not even the right ship.
The peace ship has a metal framework support for a shade awning that covers nearly the entire outside deck.
There is no sign of that awning in the IDF video.
The framework can be seen in this video from 1:08 to 1:15.
3. Fake wave motion.
Although they tried to fake wave motion by moving the camera around and rolling it from side to side, there is zero variation of relative vertical position between the ship being filmed and the ship from which the film was supposedly made. When the photographer stops moving the camera the two boats don't have any relative motion to each other.
That's impossible at sea.
4. Fake infrared
The hijacking occurred at night but the video was clearly made in broad daylight.
They have photoshopped in a lot of brightness and contrast trying to fake Infrared night photography. But the result isn't even close. Genuine infrared photography has almost zero halftones. Every pixel is either black or white. The IDF video is full of halftones.
5. The passengers fully knew they would be arrested and that was their stated intention.
Why in the world would they attack armed assault troops when they wanted to be arrested as a means of protesting Israel's inhumanity. Why would they court death and destroy the very reason for their coming in the first place?
Compare for yourself
genuine nighttime infrared video versus daylight video bleached out to supposedly simulate infrared.
1. genuine infrared video taken from the helicopter.
(starts after several seconds)
notice, there are no halftones at all
everything is either black or white.
2. the faked IDF video, obviously taken in broad daylight and then photo-edited to try to fake infrared night video.
notice that it's full of halftones
Also.
Watch the real aerial video carefully again and watch for any sigh of the supposed violence on the faked IDF video.
I couldn't see any sign whatsoever of passenger violence on the genune video. The passengers are obviously frightened and they obey orders to move, stop, and lie down.