I have also observed that with the current European political situation, he is gaining a wide momentum of acceptance compared to how most of the leaders loathed him during the election.
Now May seems to be warming up to him where as she couldn't have given him the time of the day six months ago.
I thought so E but a very seemingly educated people like Unlaoised and Mn demanded it and I am sure there are all buried in the previous threads as the discussions were very much into justifying the action of Merkel to be wrong.
Thanks anyways, in other words I should not bother but there it is.
Thanks, I totally agree. I was so focused on the questions of the documents which was provided so many times on the previous threads and reading your comment of my responsibility made me think that way.
But thanks again and sorry for the frustration. It is okay, at least discussions like these can clear up our minds and sometimes it is good to get to the bottom of every issue.
"Four out of five migrants are NOT from Syria: EU figures expose the 'lie' that the majority of refugees are fleeing war zone
By Ian Drury for the Daily Mail 09:44 EST 18 Sep 2015, updated 14:19 EST 22 Sep 2015 +10 Facebook Twitter e-mail SMS WhatsApp 3.9k comments Some 44,000 of the 213,000 refugees who arrived in Europe were from Syria A further 27,000 new arrivals on the continent came from Afghanistan Britain received one in 30 of all the asylum claims made by new applicants David Cameron has offered to take in 20,000 refugees but none from the E"
I agree you pointed out my responsibility to provide documentation.
Here is one.
Four out of five migrants are NOT from Syria: EU figures expose the 'lie' that the majority of refugees are fleeing war zone
By Ian Drury for the Daily Mail 09:44 EST 18 Sep 2015, updated 14:19 EST 22 Sep 2015 +10 Facebook Twitter e-mail SMS WhatsApp 3.9k comments Some 44,000 of the 213,000 refugees who arrived in Europe were from Syria A further 27,000 new arrivals on the continent came from Afghanistan Britain received one in 30 of all the asylum claims made by new applicants David Cameron has offered to take in 20,000 refugees but none from the E
Well it's nice to have some new faces Seri, it adds excitement into the dynamics, I know you are not in favor of Trump and quite passionate in your position but it's nice to see you here anyways.
The Economist explains Sep 8th 2015, 00:50 by T.N. more VIKTOR ORBÁN, Hungary’s prime minister, says the “overwhelming majority” of migrants in Europe are not refugees but are merely seeking a better life. Robert Fico, his Slovak counterpart, says up to 95% are economic migrants. The distinction matters, for under the 1951 Refugee Convention and a string of EU laws, European countries must offer refuge or other types of protection to asylum-seekers who can demonstrate that they are fleeing war or persecution. They are under no such obligation to those looking to improve their prospects, even if they have left behind lives of destitution. So if Messrs Orbán and Fico are right, Europe’s migration crisis amounts largely to a problem of border management and repatriation; not relocation, integration and the rest of it. Are they?
Let’s look at the numbers. According to the EU, in the first quarter of 2015, there were seven countries whose nationals obtained a “rate of recognition”—some form of protection in an EU country—over 50% (see chart). Put crudely, citizens of these seven countries obtained protection in the EU over half the time they applied. How many of these people are reaching Europe? The UNHCR says that Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq account for nine in ten of the quarter-million-odd migrants detected arriving in Greece this year. Citizens of Eritrea, Somalia and Sudan comprise 41% of the 119,500 arrivals in Italy, and another 6% come from Syria. In other words, citizens from countries that usually obtain protection in the EU account for fully 75% of illicit arrivals by sea this year. Crunch the numbers further and we find that at least 81% of those migrants entering Greece can expect to receive refugee status or some other form of protection in the EU. The figure for those entering Italy, who are a far more diverse bunch, is 46%. Many Nigerians, Bangladeshis and Gambians, among others, fail to obtain protection after crossing the Mediterranean (see chart 2).
Another way to look at the data is as follows: under the European Commission’s new proposal to relocate 160,000 asylum-seekers from Italy, Greece and Hungary to most other EU countries, only nationals from countries with acceptance rates over 75% will be eligible. For now that means Syrians, Eritreans and Iraqis. This matters because it is only these people, once they are relocated, that will trouble the likes of Mr Fico. Mr Orbán has the misfortune to govern a country that many migrants traverse en route from Greece to Germany. According to the UNHCR’s figures, these three groups account for 62% of total arrivals by sea this year. We might also note that 227,169 Syrians, Eritreans and Iraqis have already been detected at the EU’s borders so far this year. The commission’s proposal aims to cover the next two years. Even if it is enacted, the plan will cover well under half of the total number of eligible nationals who reach Europe in that period.
These numbers capture only those entering (and detected) by sea—some European countries, Germany in particular, have a separate problem of asylum-seekers travelling overland from Balkan countries like Kosovo, Serbia and Albania, the vast majority of whom are denied protection—and cover only “first-instance” decisions. Still, the headline numbers suggest that the vast majority of illegal migrants reaching Europe will be eligible for protection once they arrive. In Mr Orban's defence, it is true that the legal distinction between refugees and economic migrants often fails to capture the complex mixture of motives that drive migrants to make their epic journeys.
Yes, miss it really, this is where the true battle of politics really are. I see you found your way here. I'm glad to see you here. Many real political stalwarts, you'll have fun.
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Extreme Vetting for Refugees
yep my dear Crayons.But it's part of the mods job to ensure civil environment.
It was a very good topic and I will repost it sometime.