Beat the Depression Blues! ( Archived) (21)

Apr 20, 2009 12:42 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
I'd like to start a 'Group' thingy on how to make money out of this depression, but you can only start one group per 20 days and it seems I started the Wine thingy group less than 20 days ago!

Any volunteers, please, to start a 'Beat the Depression' Group?

I have to admit that I am totally gobsmacked by my good fortune over the past few weeks and months........... I know very little about 'investments' in general, but have a good mathematical brain (including some knowledge about such stuff as 'probability').

I read that it made sense to get a good mentor - and I have been lucky enough to have found such a person........... I'd like to share and discuss my views on how to take advantage of the horrible mess the world is going through right now so that when this global recession/depression is over in a few months (years?) we'll be able to really reap the benefits!

Making money is a rather dry and boring subject for most people (especially if you are only interested in lust and love in a singles site) - but remember that if you really love somebody you want the best for them, and money does NOT grow on trees!

Wishing you all future prosperity..................... wine
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Apr 20, 2009 12:56 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
This isn't some kind of scam........I just wish to share and exchange opinions about a very serious subject - ok? conversing
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Apr 20, 2009 1:03 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
rusty_knight: This isn't some kind of scam........I just wish to share and exchange opinions about a very serious subject - ok?


I´m all ears!
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Apr 20, 2009 1:12 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Goddess4u: I´m all ears!


I'm all mouth! moping grin
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Apr 20, 2009 1:15 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Paradox67
Paradox67Paradox67Collegeville, Pennsylvania USA9 Threads 5 Polls 1,170 Posts
I'mm all thought. grin
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Apr 20, 2009 1:18 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Paradox67: I'mm all thought.


Thinking is good...... thought should precede action!thumbs up
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Apr 20, 2009 1:18 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
Come on guys, lets do it!
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Apr 20, 2009 1:20 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Goddess4u: Come on guys, lets do it!


Do what?

Think?

Action? cool
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Apr 20, 2009 1:22 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
rusty_knight: Do what?

Think?

Action?


all of the above = to make some money, silly - how we gonna do it
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Apr 20, 2009 1:24 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Goddess4u: all of the above = to make some money, silly - how we gonna do it


Agter my father died in August last year I lost over £1,000 (way over $1,000) EVERY DAY for well over 100 days - then I decided to do something about it - and I did.....and have since more than made up the loss! thumbs up
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Apr 20, 2009 1:32 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
I have to say I was quite scared, but refused to panic - it's been very hard work to recover from a very frightening financial blow............ and my heart goes out to those who feel that their lives have 'ended' because of the greed of other people.
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Apr 20, 2009 1:32 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
I think this depression is here to stay.
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Apr 20, 2009 1:47 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Witchaywoman: I think this depression is here to stay.


Naughty girl! tongue

Your glass is a quarter full, dammit! wine
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Apr 20, 2009 1:49 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
ladyfingers
ladyfingersladyfingersclovis, nm, New Mexico USA261 Threads 1 Polls 5,456 Posts
rusty_knight: Ouch! Did it hurt?


I'll thay tho!
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Apr 20, 2009 2:18 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
ladyfingers: I'll thay tho!


You're a star! hug

Let me give you a money-making tip - gratis!

I hope to buy 5,000 euros face value of a bond that pays 8.16% and matures on 23rd March 2010 - i.e. you get back the full face value. in this case 5,000 euros.

The bond is 8.16 Standard Chartered 2011 EUR and the bid price today was 63 cents to the euro (that's the price I'd get if I were selling).... I will pay a maximum of 70 (the offer price) which will cost me 3,500 euros.

The total cost will include one month accrued interest of 34 euros plus 1% commission - so I should pay out a maximum of 3,500 + 34 + 35 and get back 408 euros interest plus 5,000 on 23rd March 2010 - you can work out the return over 11 months (hint: it's over 50%!)

thumbs up
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Apr 20, 2009 2:20 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
Rusty I would seriously like to read anything you have to say on the matter as I have an interest in what you have to say for my sons sakewave
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Apr 20, 2009 2:26 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Mercedes1: Rusty I would seriously like to read anything you have to say on the matter as I have an interest in what you have to say for my sons sake


It's a serious business............ bonds are far 'safer' and less volatile than shares, but in this crazy market bonds have been acting more like shares - there is NOTHING totally risk free, but there are some amazing bargains going - in the 1930s 10% of bonds 'defaulted' (i.e. they didn't pay up - I reckon if 20% default this time I'll still make a bundle...... deo volenti - that's Latin for 'Awful Mercurialness willing'!).

Many good bonds have been traded at a huge discount NOT because they are crap but because they are 'distressed' because the bond holders have had to sell to meet liabilities 'elsewhere'.

I bought some bonds for 15.5% of their face value on Friday, 13th March 2009 - if I sold them now I'd get 36% of their face value which is totally crazy.... but that bond is a 'perpetual' and will give me a good income for life so no way will I sell any of them!
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Apr 20, 2009 2:39 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Mercedes1: Rusty I would seriously like to read anything you have to say on the matter as I have an interest in what you have to say for my sons sake


then I write summat and I get ignored! tongue

Sheesh!

Hey - on Sunday, 24th May I'm going to do a fundraising thingy for the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals....... do women count? confused
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Apr 20, 2009 3:00 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
offshorewinds
offshorewindsoffshorewindsSilkeborg, Central Jutland Denmark14 Threads 256 Posts
Rusty knight....rusty,water on steel,knight armour steel again,water on steel rusty... I P Knightly...famous English author...can't rememeber what he wrote but he made some money Iam sure ,otherwise I would not know his name...Something to do with bedsprings... I'll follow up on this and do a tenfour....over and out "Dubber Rucky"
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Apr 20, 2009 3:03 PM CST Beat the Depression Blues!
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
rusty_knight: then I write summat and I get ignored!

Sheesh!

Hey - on Sunday, 24th May I'm going to do a fundraising thingy for the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals....... do women count?


I was pottering getting ready for workgrin

I will copy and paste your reply to show my older sonshug
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