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Gurkhas have lost a bid to overturn a ruling that stopped them automatically settling in the UK after leaving the Army. Skip related content
RELATED PHOTOS / VIDEOS Government accused of betraying Gurkhas Play video RELATED CONTENT Gurkhas refused full settlement rights Video: Government accused of betraying Gurkhas New settlement rules disappoint Gurkhas Related Hot Topic: Immigration & Asylum Have your say: Immigration & Asylum Those who left the Army before 1997 were not given the right to automatically settle in the UK after four years' service.
Last year, a High Court judge ruled that the policy excluding older veterans was unlawful and in need of urgent review.
Instead of overturning the ruling, the Government has now decided to allow those soldiers who retired prior to July 1997 the automatic right to live in the UK - but only if special circumstances apply, such as they were injured or were awarded a medal for bravery.
Actress Joanna Lumley, who has backed the campaign, said: "The Gurkhas cannot meet these new criteria. "It makes me ashamed of our government. We will fight on. We don't stop. This has been a setback but that is all."
There are currently around 3,500 serving Gurkhas. More than 200,000 fought during the First and Second World Wars, with 43,000 giving their lives.
Ragprasad Purja, 43, served with the Gurkhas for 17 years. He said: "It is the saddest day for the Gurkhas and the saddest day for the British Government.
"I cannot believe that this Government made such a decision. I was proud of my service but now I am very sad."
David Enright, of Howe and Co solicitors, said: "They have set criteria that are unattainable.
"It's a sham and an absolute disgrace. It's far more restrictive than the old policy."
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "Anybody who has done 20 years service before 1997 is going to benefit from this decision. They can make the choice if they want to come to Britain.
"Anybody that has suffered injuries or who has got rewards for gallantry can also come to Britain."
Immigration Minister Phil Woolas said the changes will benefit around 4,300 more ex-Gurkhas out of a total of 36,000, who retired before 1997.
He said: "This guidance honours the service, commitment and gallantry of those who served with the Gurkhas brigade.
"Where there are strong reasons, there has been scope for Gurkhas who retired prior to July 1997 to apply to settle in the UK.
"In fact, because of rules brought in by the Government, we have already welcomed around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members to Britain.
"We will work with the Ministry of Defence to actively inform those who might be eligible in Nepal of these changes."
The Gurkha brigade was formed following the partition of India in 1947 but Nepalese Gurkha soldiers have been part of the British Army for almost 200 years.
zee1ander: I think we are talking apples and oranges here. They are free to do as they please as long as it is within the confines of the law as is with every other US Citizen.
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Do not discriminate in the name of race and color . Whitemen has lost the control of the world long back .Now its countries like India and China are going to rule the world. lets be humanbeing for a change
I wasn't around then. nor were these welfare mungers,there are fiddling todays system it will not help or change the past. Yes the Brits have nothing to be proud of, the Romans did did the same to us, but you don't see hoards of us claiming free hand outs in Italy.
I can't speak as a citizen of the UK but as a Canadian citizen, I wouldn't mind seeing Gurkha retirees from the British Army settle here. We have some former Paras (among others)not only living here but serving in our Armed Forces. IMO, anyway.
celtictony: I wasn't around then. nor were these welfare mungers,there are fiddling todays system it will not help or change the past. Yes the Brits have nothing to be proud of, the Romans did did the same to us, but you don't see hoards of us claiming free hand outs in Italy.
This is intolerence . let there not be any asians ,blacks and whites .let there be only human being then your problem will be solved . the earth belongs to all . not only fot the whites to exploit
Tb, I really do not have a problem with Asias, blacks or any other culture, I have lots of friends from all over the world. What I do have a problem with, is spongers and I can't change the fact that the biggists spongers in the uk, are mainley Pakistans, Bangladishi, Indian, etc, my god I wish it wasn't true.
celtictony: Tb, I really do not have a problem with Asias, blacks or any other culture, I have lots of friends from all over the world. What I do have a problem with, is spongers and I can't change the fact that the biggists spongers in the uk, are mainley Pakistans, Bangladishi, Indian, etc, my god I wish it wasn't true.
Sir Your forefathers had lavishly sponged our countries and divided into three creating eternal conflictis . I am sure the defence expenditure we incurr because of this division is much more thant the sponging ..so let them .Please accomodate them sir.
Tbilisigal: This is intolerence . let there not be any asians ,blacks and whites .let there be only human being then your problem will be solved . the earth belongs to all . not only fot the whites to exploit
Tbilisigal - you have a 'strong' profile...... I have a good friend from Georgia who now works in Abu Dhabi....... I think you Georgians are very interesting people and I think Prime Minister Putin of Russia would probably have to agree!
Hmmmm......... re. the blacks in the USA - should the Russians allow YOU the freedom you want or should they be allowed to invade Georgia whenever they feel like it and without any real protest from the EU?
celtictony: Tb, I really do not have a problem with Asias, blacks or any other culture, I have lots of friends from all over the world. What I do have a problem with, is spongers and I can't change the fact that the biggists spongers in the uk, are mainley Pakistans, Bangladishi, Indian, etc, my god I wish it wasn't true.
Strange that - all the Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Indians and Sri Lankans that I have met are far harder working than the indiginous population............ and where have you got your impression from and do you have any facts to support your allegations?
Asians have a far stronger family culture than many native brits and they have high aspirations - hence the many Asian doctors and lawyers we now have in the UK.......... beibng so family orientated has both advantages and disadvantages, but the culture of most British and American people is far more based on the individual and generally-speaking far more selfish.
I have a home in Swansea, South Wales, UK - without doubt the biggest spongers there are the natives........ often illegitimate and living off the state from cradle to grave - being served their tax-payers paid Indian and Chinese take-aways by......... Asians!
(I know because I worked for a Bangladeshi take-away in a poor council estate)
rusty_knight: Tbilisigal - you have a 'strong' profile...... I have a good friend from Georgia who now works in Abu Dhabi....... I think you Georgians are very interesting people and I think Prime Minister Putin of Russia would probably have to agree!
Hmmmm......... re. the blacks in the USA - should the Russians allow YOU the freedom you want or should they be allowed to invade Georgia whenever they feel like it and without any real protest from the EU?
I am not strong as my profile looks .I am just a normal woman . I guess you find interesting people everywhere .not only in Georgia .
Lets sticks to our own issues then nobody is going to invade you ( except the US ) .Russians are failry good people . they acted against some of the Georgian acts . Now we are good neibhours ..pleace for all . I dont want a southeast Asia happening here .and I hope for peace .
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Those who left the Army before 1997 were not given the right to automatically settle in the UK after four years' service.
Last year, a High Court judge ruled that the policy excluding older veterans was unlawful and in need of urgent review.
Instead of overturning the ruling, the Government has now decided to allow those soldiers who retired prior to July 1997 the automatic right to live in the UK - but only if special circumstances apply, such as they were injured or were awarded a medal for bravery.
Actress Joanna Lumley, who has backed the campaign, said: "The Gurkhas cannot meet these new criteria. "It makes me ashamed of our government. We will fight on. We don't stop. This has been a setback but that is all."
There are currently around 3,500 serving Gurkhas. More than 200,000 fought during the First and Second World Wars, with 43,000 giving their lives.
Ragprasad Purja, 43, served with the Gurkhas for 17 years. He said: "It is the saddest day for the Gurkhas and the saddest day for the British Government.
"I cannot believe that this Government made such a decision. I was proud of my service but now I am very sad."
David Enright, of Howe and Co solicitors, said: "They have set criteria that are unattainable.
"It's a sham and an absolute disgrace. It's far more restrictive than the old policy."
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "Anybody who has done 20 years service before 1997 is going to benefit from this decision. They can make the choice if they want to come to Britain.
"Anybody that has suffered injuries or who has got rewards for gallantry can also come to Britain."
Immigration Minister Phil Woolas said the changes will benefit around 4,300 more ex-Gurkhas out of a total of 36,000, who retired before 1997.
He said: "This guidance honours the service, commitment and gallantry of those who served with the Gurkhas brigade.
"Where there are strong reasons, there has been scope for Gurkhas who retired prior to July 1997 to apply to settle in the UK.
"In fact, because of rules brought in by the Government, we have already welcomed around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members to Britain.
"We will work with the Ministry of Defence to actively inform those who might be eligible in Nepal of these changes."
The Gurkha brigade was formed following the partition of India in 1947 but Nepalese Gurkha soldiers have been part of the British Army for almost 200 years.