Ali Hewson abseiling (87)
FrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 PostsPete31: UN-healthy I meant too, sorry
We on the same page maybe....
fair play!
Pete31: Unquestioning acceptance is healthy, I agree, but only if you've done nothing wrong yourself.
Respect to you too !! ( I sounded a bit like Ali G there ! )
Respect to you too !! ( I sounded a bit like Ali G there ! )
We've all done wrong though. No one is expecting people to be perfect.
I just expect certain standards from people who preach at us about what we need to do.
I know people who do fantastic work for charities and who never look for publicity for it. Often though, those people, the ones who should be outraged at frauds like Bono, will say nothing about it, because they are too nice.
I however, being a bitter narky pr1ck have no such difficulties.
Pete31: UN-healthy I meant too, sorry
Which reminds me, why doesn't this forum have a facility to edit posts? It is very annoying!
scribbler83: We've all done wrong though. No one is expecting people to be perfect.
I just expect certain standards from people who preach at us about what we need to do.
I know people who do fantastic work for charities and who never look for publicity for it. Often though, those people, the ones who should be outraged at frauds like Bono, will say nothing about it, because they are too nice.
I however, being a bitter narky pr1ck have no such difficulties.
I just expect certain standards from people who preach at us about what we need to do.
I know people who do fantastic work for charities and who never look for publicity for it. Often though, those people, the ones who should be outraged at frauds like Bono, will say nothing about it, because they are too nice.
I however, being a bitter narky pr1ck have no such difficulties.
Sign me up!!!!
Pete31: Unquestioning acceptance is healthy, I agree, but only if you've done nothing wrong yourself.
Respect to you too !! ( I sounded a bit like Ali G there ! )
Respect to you too !! ( I sounded a bit like Ali G there ! )
Actually that didn't make much sense did it, sorry ! Let me try again !
What I meant to say was, Unquestioning acceptance is unhealthy of course, but my point is, we all do wrong sometimes, so have any of us got the right to judge others ?
Fraya: Sign me up!!!!
Done. We can call ourselves the Cork Raty Indignant and Bitter Society. Or CRIBS for short!
Pete31: Actually that didn't make much sense did it, sorry ! Let me try again !
What I meant to say was, Unquestioning acceptance is unhealthy of course, but my point is, we all do wrong sometimes, so have any of us got the right to judge others ?
What I meant to say was, Unquestioning acceptance is unhealthy of course, but my point is, we all do wrong sometimes, so have any of us got the right to judge others ?
Of Course we do. The fact that others do wrong shouldn't exhonerate us.
scribbler83: We've all done wrong though. No one is expecting people to be perfect.
I just expect certain standards from people who preach at us about what we need to do.
I know people who do fantastic work for charities and who never look for publicity for it. Often though, those people, the ones who should be outraged at frauds like Bono, will say nothing about it, because they are too nice.
I however, being a bitter narky pr1ck have no such difficulties.
I just expect certain standards from people who preach at us about what we need to do.
I know people who do fantastic work for charities and who never look for publicity for it. Often though, those people, the ones who should be outraged at frauds like Bono, will say nothing about it, because they are too nice.
I however, being a bitter narky pr1ck have no such difficulties.
I can understand what you're saying, but I do believe that some celebrities use their high profile status to highlight some issues or charity work. And I do also accept that some celebrities do charity work only to promote their own image. I'm not saying thats what Bono does, because I don't know him.
scribbler83: Of Course we do. The fact that others do wrong shouldn't exhonerate us.
But my point is, aren't we being hypocritical if we talk about other peoples wrongdoing when we've also done wrong.
No we are being hypocritical if we condemn other people's wrongdoing while defending our own wrongdoing. Each individual act should be treated on its own merit.
You do raise an interesting point though. The problem here is the relativity of right or wrong in instances such as this.
You do raise an interesting point though. The problem here is the relativity of right or wrong in instances such as this.
Anyway, I better go to bed. I've already done enough damage to my rep tonight. Between this and the Cup Final thread I seem to be public enemy number 1
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.scribbler83: No we are being hypocritical if we condemn other people's wrongdoing while defending our own wrongdoing. Each individual act should be treated on its own merit.
You do raise an interesting point though. The problem here is the relativity of right or wrong in instances such as this.
You do raise an interesting point though. The problem here is the relativity of right or wrong in instances such as this.
I'll hold my hands up and say that I have been hypocritical in the past, I really try not to be, but I have been.
Didn't some wise guy once say, "Let he without sin cast the first stone" !
scribbler83: Anyway, I better go to bed. I've already done enough damage to my rep tonight. Between this and the Cup Final thread I seem to be public enemy number 1 .
Ah you're grand, don't worry about it, sure aren't we the rebels !
Goodnight
Pete31: I'll hold my hands up and say that I have been hypocritical in the past, I really try not to be, but I have been.
Didn't some wise guy once say, "Let he without sin cast the first stone" !
Didn't some wise guy once say, "Let he without sin cast the first stone" !
Of course you have been hypocritical, we all have been. That's human nature. I'm sure you are nowhere near Bono-level hypocrisy. Most people aren't, which is exactly why I reserve such vitriol for him.
What did I start?
I only wanted to know what time the flipping thing was on yesterday
As it was I just sat in my back garden and read a book in the sun.
I dont care how hypocritical Bono or any celeb is as long as some good is done because their name attracts peoples attention. So what if some people end up thinking that an egomaniac is a saint if he/she does some good in the end. We all have the freedom to choose our heroes
I only wanted to know what time the flipping thing was on yesterday
As it was I just sat in my back garden and read a book in the sun.
I dont care how hypocritical Bono or any celeb is as long as some good is done because their name attracts peoples attention. So what if some people end up thinking that an egomaniac is a saint if he/she does some good in the end. We all have the freedom to choose our heroes
LadyBlackAdder: What did I start?
I only wanted to know what time the flipping thing was on yesterday
As it was I just sat in my back garden and read a book in the sun.
I dont care how hypocritical Bono or any celeb is as long as some good is done because their name attracts peoples attention. So what if some people end up thinking that an egomaniac is a saint if he/she does some good in the end. We all have the freedom to choose our heroes
I only wanted to know what time the flipping thing was on yesterday
As it was I just sat in my back garden and read a book in the sun.
I dont care how hypocritical Bono or any celeb is as long as some good is done because their name attracts peoples attention. So what if some people end up thinking that an egomaniac is a saint if he/she does some good in the end. We all have the freedom to choose our heroes
That's fair enough, personally I disagree that Bono has really done much good at all. But as you say we all have our own heroes.
Did she abseil at all in the end?
scribbler83: Of course you have been hypocritical, we all have been. That's human nature. I'm sure you are nowhere near Bono-level hypocrisy. Most people aren't, which is exactly why I reserve such vitriol for him.
Well thats fair enough, I guess there's not much more to be said.
Anyway, the sun is shining again today, where is that Bar-b !
LadyBlackAdder: What did I start?
I only wanted to know what time the flipping thing was on yesterday
As it was I just sat in my back garden and read a book in the sun.
I dont care how hypocritical Bono or any celeb is as long as some good is done because their name attracts peoples attention. So what if some people end up thinking that an egomaniac is a saint if he/she does some good in the end. We all have the freedom to choose our heroes
I only wanted to know what time the flipping thing was on yesterday
As it was I just sat in my back garden and read a book in the sun.
I dont care how hypocritical Bono or any celeb is as long as some good is done because their name attracts peoples attention. So what if some people end up thinking that an egomaniac is a saint if he/she does some good in the end. We all have the freedom to choose our heroes
True
scribbler83: Did she abseil at all in the end?
She did. She is on the cover of the Sunday Times.
Am off out in the sun now
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