Latest news in Iran ( Archived) (267)

Jun 26, 2009 2:23 AM CST Latest news in Iran
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
ttom500: One learns something new every day.:)
handshake likewise
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Jun 26, 2009 2:27 AM CST Latest news in Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Dmire: The reason was because Iran has militant attitude towards the west and other independent election moniters.I agree the incumbent in Iran may not have won.Again not enough evidence to shoe the man rigged


I think that you will be surprised where some of the evidence comes from. I cannot say much more than that at this time.
People are putting their lives on the line in this. So time for me to call it nite.

nite all
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Jun 26, 2009 2:29 AM CST Latest news in Iran
Dmire
DmireDmirekingston, Kingston Jamaica20 Threads 2 Polls 508 Posts
ttom500: I think that you will be surprised where some of the evidence comes from. I cannot say much more than that at this time.
People are putting their lives on the line in this. So time for me to call it nite.

nite all


Good nitewave
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Jun 26, 2009 2:31 AM CST Latest news in Iran
enola1
enola1enola1Dubai, United Arab Emirates115 Posts
ttom500: So you know how Musarref got himself into trouble in Kargill?

But since you know all things...while telling me I am arrogant...which I can spell....I will just let you
think that you know all things.


I just try let u knw I hav also sum knwledge , it is not tht u ppl knw everything , nothing else laugh
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Jun 26, 2009 8:59 AM CST Latest news in Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I sadden to share this bit of news on the Iranian crisis.

A Iranian cleric is calling for the execution of the leading rioters.

According to him, they are 'Moherab' and are subject to execution.

I quote:

"They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely."

Also the gov't announced that 8 Basij militia were killed while the death toll for the protesters remains at 20. No details to how they were killed.

With this announcement of possible execution, literally 100s or arrested Iranian protesters could face the death penalty. Many as we are learning now are young Iranian women such as Neda.

The Guardian Council said the this vote was the 'healthiest vote' since 1979. So with pressure being placed to silence former Presdient Rasfanjani (his arrested daughter), it seems that any cleric objectivity to the election process is not going to happen.

Lastly, China and Russia have recognized Pres. A election. Both congratulated him for his election success.

In the late 1800s in old Mexico, the Federallies and
used to line the peasants that were part of the Mexican revolution and would execute them in mass fire squads.
That is where Iran is headed today.
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Jun 26, 2009 9:01 AM CST Latest news in Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
enola1: I just try let u knw I hav also sum knwledge , it is not tht u ppl knw everything , nothing else


A lesson in spell check might be nice.
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Jun 26, 2009 5:53 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Persiano
PersianoPersianoTehran, Iran3 Threads 49 Posts
Mullahs in Iran had decided and mentioned to people that they will execute by hanging any protesters they arrest, they have already had killed more than 20 innocent people, they have arrested more than 500 people and they have banned all the media to provide any reports and everyone will be arrested even if they take a picture in the street. God help us all, dictatorship of all time, God help us.
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Jun 26, 2009 5:56 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Persiano
PersianoPersianoTehran, Iran3 Threads 49 Posts
There have been some very funny people that they are making fun out of everything, we are living in the hell that these Mullahs had made for us and our people are being killed with Islamic republic of Iran and you are making fun, take your funny statement somewhere else, this time I mean it. This situation in Iran is not funny at all.
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Jun 26, 2009 6:16 PM CST Latest news in Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
President Obama rejected the Pres. A request for a apology for meddling in the Iranian election.

I will site at the end.

A few quotes:

President Obama: "The violence perpetrated against them is outrageous." and "The Iranian regime needs to think carefully about answers to protester that it has arrested, blugdened and killed." and
"I don't take Pres. Ahmerdinejad statement very seriously about apologies, when the United States has gone out of its way to not to interfere with the election process in Iran."

German President Merkel was at the Q and A

Her quote is: "We will not forget"

President Obama on Mousavi: "He has shown to have captured the imagination within Iran that were interested in opening up."

This is President Obama closest statement to recognizing Mousavi to be the elected president of Iran.

The site is:

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Jun 26, 2009 6:29 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Persiano
PersianoPersianoTehran, Iran3 Threads 49 Posts
Hi Tom,

Hope you are well. Thanks for your new news. But the point is that America and Europe still want to deal with the Islamic republic and do business with them, and the sanction didn’t work. Why other governments have to do business with the fraud and terrorist government. They are helping Hezbollah in Lebanon and Palestine and they have sent troops to Iraq and they are keeping the region under their control and they shout their people up by threatening that they execute them. This is the absolute dictatorship and whoever support them is a dictator too.
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Jun 26, 2009 6:38 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Persiano
PersianoPersianoTehran, Iran3 Threads 49 Posts
They have shout the mouth of Britain that last Friday that Khamenei has mentioned that British Government is their first enemy that afterwards the British government and BBC pulled out and then Ahmadinejad had sent that message to Obama that America had pulled out as well and they have killed Protesters and they say that they execute everyone who protest against them. In the other hand all countries are fighting to do business with them because of their oil. And they have the strong military and allies in the region that they mention that they wipe out the Israel from the map. Apparently they are doing well so far.
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Jun 26, 2009 9:40 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
Persiano: Hi Tom,

Hope you are well. Thanks for your new news. They are helping Hezbollah in Lebanon and Palestine and they have sent troops to Iraq and they are keeping the region under their control and they shout their people up by threatening that they execute them. This is the absolute dictatorship and whoever support them is a dictator too.


Persiano, i am trying to see all sides in this dangerous time for your country. I want u to have the freedom u all so deserve to choose a majorily elected president.

My stand on this, is that because the US has a history of interfering in other countries domestic politics, when it needs to worry about itself first. And the western media is something i am skeptical of as it majorily run by corrupt businessmen to suit their own agenda.

However, the threat irans gov is to its own people and other countries (even tho i believe israel should hand some land back to the palestinians) is something that deeply troubles me.
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Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Persiano, I want you to know there are many of us, here in America, that supports the efforts of Iranian protestors. I do not know how you would feel about stronger sanctions, that the UN is now talking about, but get prepared, and do what you can stocking up with essentials. Do that for yourself, and others who you can help, as that keeps all of you united. It's going to take some time, so get prepared for a long haul, and do not give up. The world is watching, and you might found out that, just across the boarder, preparations are being considered.
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Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Persiano
PersianoPersianoTehran, Iran3 Threads 49 Posts
Magenta: Persiano, i am trying to see all sides in this dangerous time for your country. I want u to have the freedom u all so deserve to choose a majorily elected president.

My stand on this, is that because the US has a history of interfering in other countries domestic politics, when it needs to worry about itself first. And the western media is something i am skeptical of as it majorily run by corrupt businessmen to suit their own agenda.

However, the threat irans gov is to its own people and other countries (even tho i believe israel should hand some land back to the palestinians) is something that deeply troubles me.



There are 20 million Persian people are living in USA only, and millions of other Persians in Europe and other parts of the world that all these people have migrated after the revolution in 1979 that Iran became Islamic. We all have witnessed that how these regime have killed Iranians and still are killing. All those Persians out side Iran are out side of Iran because of this regime and they all want to come back, beside all Iranian inside the country are sacrificing and suffering on daily basis because of lack of freedom and the bad economy. Iran is one of the richest countries in the world regarded the underground wealth and other sources of natural wealth that owns but why people have to live in poverty? Because Mullahs whom run the country fill out their pockets first and then they spend the money on supporting Palestinians and Lebanon, Syria, and mullahs in Iraq and all other Muslim countries they even fight for them as they’ve done that for Bosnia for instance. Before that they were saying that Shah of Iran was taking the money for him self but believe me that gentleman the Shah of Iran loved his country and his people, we had international reputations, people had freedom and they were wealthy, there were no poor people, and everyone from neighbourhood countries were coming there to work as the economy was good there. Anyways the past is gone, speaking about now, people want freedom, and they want that religion and politics to be separated from each other and the money of the underground wealth belongs to the people of Iran and they should have good economy and live better as they are living now, the other thing is that all the young people became addicted and that is all because of Islamic regime, the numbers of execution had raised to 300% more than past since Ahmadinejad and so many stoning, and forcing women to wear veils, the list goes on and on but these are some very simple and basic things that Iranian people want to have. We want regime change and to open the doors to the international business world and tourisms industries, and to restore the economy of the Iran and the world. And all those Persian out side of Iran will all come back home. I just hope that in my life time I see that day. bouquet
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Jun 26, 2009 10:14 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Persiano
PersianoPersianoTehran, Iran3 Threads 49 Posts
Abram: Persiano, I want you to know there are many of us, here in America, that supports the efforts of Iranian protestors. I do not know how you would feel about stronger sanctions, that the UN is now talking about, but get prepared, and do what you can stocking up with essentials. Do that for yourself, and others who you can help, as that keeps all of you united. It's going to take some time, so get prepared for a long haul, and do not give up. The world is watching, and you might found out that, just across the boarder, preparations are being considered.



Don’t believe those sanctions that you hear they are talking about, it’s all about talking, at the end of the day, that’s the money that counts and sanctions doesn’t work because as I have mentioned earlier that many countries are fighting to be the first ones to do business with Iranian authorities they don’t care if they are Mullahs or the King, they are looking for their own interests and sanctions doesn’t work because there are always under curtain business hand shakings, beside what’s our fault to be affected economically as citizens, in fact we have to live better economically as we have a rich country, that’s not going to make these people to go, they are stocked with the power and ain’t give up. There should be other solutions, these Mullahs are very smart, we have to come up with smarter ideas to beat them.
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Jun 27, 2009 8:43 PM CST Latest news in Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Magenta: Persiano, i am trying to see all sides in this dangerous time for your country. I want u to have the freedom u all so deserve to choose a majorily elected president.

My stand on this, is that because the US has a history of interfering in other countries domestic politics, when it needs to worry about itself first. And the western media is something i am skeptical of as it majorily run by corrupt businessmen to suit their own agenda.

However, the threat irans gov is to its own people and other countries (even tho i believe israel should hand some land back to the palestinians) is something that deeply troubles me.


Magenta, how far from Isreal and Gaza from Iran? Iran is not even connected to the two parties (Isreal and Palestines) that are in conflict. The distance is about 1000 miles

Of the Isreal's 7 wars and with nations states and 2 inifitadas with Palestine.....know how many times Iran has directly participated as a nation state combatant? 0

Iran has facilitated the conflicts. Sold weapons and explosives into them. Made money from them. Used them for stirring the middle east pot. For exporting revolutionary Islam. But actually sending Iranian forces to combat the Great Satan state of Israel. Never.

Does that seem strange or hypercritical to anyone? From the time of Iran's 1970s revolution, Isreal...that had nothing to do with the Shan being power....Iran has made Israel its target. Iran has used the 'general anger' in the Islamic world to 'how' Israel came into being...to cause so much death, to cause disharmony, to cause distrust, to rationalize terrorism for Jahid. And has stopped at nothing to keep the conflict and anger fired. Including killing fellow Muslims....

And no one seems to says.....hey it is Iran's fault to surragate and facilitate this conflict that is so many miles away from Iran. But rather it is that US of A fault the meddles into foreign gov't fault.

And now after 30 years of exporting Islamic revolution from Iran. Real revolution has come to Iran in the form of these protesters for Mousavi.

I just think tha Iran's revolutionary ideology should not prosper because of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Because this last week. we have all seen this revolutionary ideology at work. It is the same basic ideology as was in Afghanistan under the Taliban.

The point I come to is this. Connecting Isreal west bank settlements disposition, to what Iran does or does not do...
should not be a real factor. The peace has to come from the Palestine, Lebanonese, Syrians, Egyptians and Israel. Because all Iran has ever done or will ever do under the Supreme Leader and Pres. A regime....is try to kill peace movements in the region.

Magenta, in this post, you said near the same thing that Pres. A says...only in a nice way. At least you did not call the US the great Satan.
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Jun 27, 2009 8:47 PM CST Latest news in Iran
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
ttom500: Magenta, how far from Isreal and Gaza from Iran? Iran is not even connected to the two parties (Isreal and Palestines) that are in conflict. The distance is about 1000 miles

Of the Isreal's 7 wars and with nations states and 2 inifitadas with Palestine.....know how many times Iran has directly participated as a nation state combatant? 0

Iran has facilitated the conflicts. Sold weapons and explosives into them. Made money from them. Used them for stirring the middle east pot. For exporting revolutionary Islam. But actually sending Iranian forces to combat the Great Satan state of Israel. Never.

Does that seem strange or hypercritical to anyone? From the time of Iran's 1970s revolution, Isreal...that had nothing to do with the Shan being power....Iran has made Israel its target. Iran has used the 'general anger' in the Islamic world to 'how' Israel came into being...to cause so much death, to cause disharmony, to cause distrust, to rationalize terrorism for Jahid. And has stopped at nothing to keep the conflict and anger fired. Including killing fellow Muslims....

And no one seems to says.....hey it is Iran's fault to surragate and facilitate this conflict that is so many miles away from Iran. But rather it is that US of A fault the meddles into foreign gov't fault.

And now after 30 years of exporting Islamic revolution from Iran. Real revolution has come to Iran in the form of these protesters for Mousavi.

I just think tha Iran's revolutionary ideology should not prosper because of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Because this last week. we have all seen this revolutionary ideology at work. It is the same basic ideology as was in Afghanistan under the Taliban.

The point I come to is this. Connecting Isreal west bank settlements disposition, to what Iran does or does not do...
should not be a real factor. The peace has to come from the Palestine, Lebanonese, Syrians, Egyptians and Israel. Because all Iran has ever done or will ever do under the Supreme Leader and Pres. A regime....is try to kill peace movements in the region.

Magenta, in this post, you said near the same thing that Pres. A says...only in a nice way. At least you did not call the US the great Satan.
thumbs up Iran does fight Israel, but only through proxies. It has spent considerable sums embedding itself into Syrian and Lebanese politics and killing Israeli's by those means. Yes, I do wish some people would learn to place blame where it squarely belongs and not on the all purpose "colonialism".
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Jun 27, 2009 10:11 PM CST Latest news in Iran
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
Magenta, how far from Isreal and Gaza from Iran? Iran is not even connected to the two parties (Isreal and Palestines) that are in conflict. The distance is about 1000 miles

Of the Isreal's 7 wars and with nations states and 2 inifitadas with Palestine.....know how many times Iran has directly participated as a nation state combatant? 0

Iran has facilitated the conflicts. Sold weapons and explosives into them. Made money from them. Used them for stirring the middle east pot. For exporting revolutionary Islam. But actually sending Iranian forces to combat the Great Satan state of Israel. Never.

Does that seem strange or hypercritical to anyone?(quote)

Tom, perhaps u have misunderstood me.
And i dont need a lesson on world geography.

Any way, i see the only way to achieve real peace there is to give some land back to palestine on the premise that all attacks on israel are punishable.

Anyhoo, this thread is about iran isnt it.wave
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Jun 27, 2009 10:17 PM CST Latest news in Iran
ocean78382
ocean78382ocean78382Rockport- Corpus Christi area, Texas USA5 Threads 210 Posts
magenta the US has sold weapons to just about everyone. We supplied Saddam with weapons and chemicals and we laughed when he used them on Iran. When he used them on rebels we liked that was a different matter.
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Jun 27, 2009 10:39 PM CST Latest news in Iran
seargentpepper
seargentpepperseargentpepperwinnipeg, Manitoba Canada1 Threads 2 Posts
Why can't we all just live in peace?
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