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Jun 28, 2009 8:28 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
whaaat
whaaatwhaaatden, South Holland Netherlands31 Threads 5,747 Posts
Pinkpanthera: The information you have recieved is totally wrong I dont know if you got it wrong or you are distorting the issue.The koran says go to the war againts to the people who attacks you, in the name of the Allah.(thats cihad)It also says who kills someone is considered to kill all humans without any valid reoson.Also who save someone is considered to save all humans.


That is right.
The information u received is totally wrong
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Jun 28, 2009 9:01 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
callibya
callibyacallibyamalta, Majjistral Malta5 Threads 157 Posts
azucarmorena: It's not my job to save or help save anyone from judgment because I am not, never have and never will be God. That's God's final decision buddy. You can choose whatever path you wish to follow to meet your creator, HOWEVER until till judgment day you will not know if the path you chose was correct. So in the meantime just follow your path and let others follow theirs. No one is forcing you to accept anything. Nor am I telling you to reject your beliefs. But I think your God might give you plus points for RESPECTING. So if choose to worship an apple pie..so be it. It could have performed miracles for me, healed my sick, resurrected my dead.

At the end of the day, follow the golder rule and if that doesn't work follow that verse in the bible about judging. Cus apparently there is only one true judge and you sir ain't it.


thumbs up

and i add somethings for him :

"Say: We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another." (3:84)

As is borne out by this command of God in the Qur’an, Muslims must believe in all the prophets of God previously sent to humanity. This means that they are not permitted to show any disrespect to any prophet or to the religion he taught to his followers. To a Muslim, religious belief must come out of a person’s free choice, as God has also commanded not to use any kind of coercion in the matter of religion:

"Let there be no compulsion in religion, truth stands out clear from error." (2:256)

Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. ]109:1-6
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Jun 28, 2009 9:02 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG: In the world today, the admonition not to "judge" is frequently used to place a virtual gag order over those who would speak up against popular and accepted world practices.


Says who? You Terry the almighty Christian?
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Jun 28, 2009 9:21 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
TerryG: In the world today, the admonition not to "judge" is frequently used to place a virtual gag order over those who would speak up against popular and accepted world practices.


Now your being spare.

Just because you have a belief that islam is derived frow false god, doesnt mean u dont have the right to say so.
However, u keep gnatting on about how right and correct christianity and judaism is, like YOU have the personal proof as to their purity and virtuosness.
That is what we have a problem with dear sirwine
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Jun 28, 2009 9:32 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta: Now your being spare.

Just because you have a belief that islam is derived frow false god, doesnt mean u dont have the right to say so.
However, u keep gnatting on about how right and correct christianity and judaism is, like YOU have the personal proof as to their purity and virtuosness.
That is what we have a problem with dear sir


I am starting to think he is God OR has God's number on speed dial.
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Jun 28, 2009 10:16 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
azucarmorena: I am starting to think he is God OR has God's number on speed dial.
roll eyes sigh laugh
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Jun 28, 2009 10:56 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG
TerryGTerryGChangsha, Hunan China17 Posts
Magenta: Now your being spare.

Just because you have a belief that islam is derived frow false god, doesnt mean u dont have the right to say so.
However, u keep gnatting on about how right and correct christianity and judaism is, like YOU have the personal proof as to their purity and virtuosness.
That is what we have a problem with dear sir


Only problem most are having is ya's want to resort to AD HOMINEM.

# Person A makes statement X.
# Person B makes an attack on person A.
# Therefore A's statement is false.

That is your basic AD HOMINEM. Read the thread its loaded with AD HOMINEM.
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Jun 28, 2009 11:00 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG
TerryGTerryGChangsha, Hunan China17 Posts
azucarmorena: Says who? You Terry the almighty Christian?


Who saying I'm a Christian? You almighty judge?
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Jun 28, 2009 11:04 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG: Sure as many do..out of context.

BUT on the other hand...

I find myself under your condemnation; and you call me a wolf in sheep's clothing, what am I do to? Am I fear to reject God's interpretation and accept yours. But if I must accept but one, hadn't I better accept the Lord's? If I reject His word and accept yours, can you save me in the judgment?


That's what I am basing my statement on.
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Jun 28, 2009 11:11 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG
TerryGTerryGChangsha, Hunan China17 Posts
Magenta: Now your being spare.

Just because you have a belief that islam is derived from false god, doesnt mean u dont have the right to say so.


Huh? wow
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Jun 28, 2009 11:13 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
TerryG: Only problem most are having is ya's want to resort to AD HOMINEM.

# Person A makes statement X.
# Person B makes an attack on person A.
# Therefore A's statement is false.

That is your basic AD HOMINEM. Read the thread its loaded with AD HOMINEM.

If u tell us, and the whole world that the muslim faith is false, where as chritianity or judaism gods are relevant, that is an AD HOMINEM attack.
Your free-speech is welcome, just not your holier-than-thou concept
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Jun 28, 2009 11:28 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
TerryG: Huh?


Yes terry. Like i said in the above post u can shout it to the rooftops that u think muslim faith is false if u want.
Just dont say that u know why(humility), and that other faiths are more relevant (understanding).

Or did u walk alongside mohammed and christ when the revelations came?

Gotta go to 2 bed, keep up the good work AZ!wave
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Jun 28, 2009 11:31 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta: Yes terry. Like i said in the above post u can shout it to the rooftops that u think muslim faith is false if u want.
Just dont say that u know why(humility), and that other faiths are more relevant (understanding).

Or did u walk alongside mohammed and christ when the revelations came?

Gotta go to 2 bed, keep up the good work AZ!


Good night Magenta! hug
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Jun 28, 2009 11:38 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG: When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".

And therefore. Allah is a fake god! Just another name for Hubal.
plz take a look on the Quan and the history of islam,Hubal was a hand made God kept in the Kabba,its name was not Allah,Allah is only one true God
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Jun 28, 2009 11:41 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
whaaat
whaaatwhaaatden, South Holland Netherlands31 Threads 5,747 Posts
ali110: plz take a look on the Quan and the history of islam,Hubal was a hand made God kept in the Kabba,its name was not Allah,Allah is only one true God


Mr.Terry your wrong about that.
That is the name given to their Gods before islam.

I assume u have some knowledge about islam, just wondering where your getting your information from.
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Jun 28, 2009 11:46 AM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
TerryG: When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".

And therefore. Allah is a fake god! Just another name for Hubal.
Allah means the only one true God not 360.
In Arabic, Allah means literally the one God
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Jun 28, 2009 9:28 PM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
Magenta
MagentaMagentaNimbin, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 483 Posts
TerryG: Huh?


Terry, what i am trying to say is u cannot judge another faiths 'god', as muslims have a right to believe in any god they choose, which is the same god/allah as christians and jews believe in anyway.

To do so means you sit in judgement and show arrogance. Which is not the teachings of any holy scriptures i have read.professor
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Jun 28, 2009 10:02 PM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
Magenta: Terry, what i am trying to say is u cannot judge another faiths 'god', as muslims have a right to believe in any god they choose, which is the same god/allah as christians and jews believe in anyway.

To do so means you sit in judgement and show arrogance. Which is not the teachings of any holy scriptures i have read.


i think, he is getting direct msg from his version of GOD to define the muslim version of GOD, just like Bush recieved "order" from his GOD to invade IRAQ and destroy that country which had the civilization of thousands of years.laugh
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Jun 28, 2009 10:03 PM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
mnowsa: i think, he is getting direct msg from his version of GOD to define the muslim version of GOD, just like Bush recieved "order" from his GOD to invade IRAQ and destroy that country which had the civilization of thousands of years.


rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 28, 2009 10:15 PM CST Allah or the Lord Jesus?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
lol..whatelse could i say, azucarmorena? This guy is hell-bent in re-creating a "fake" god for muslims. Dude, we don't need another fake god for us. we already fed up and tired of meeting the demands of "ONE" god that we already have.doh
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