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RobertC2: dang - no comments!
There but for the grace of God go I.
I don't know an answer. It's sad.
It's sad for people in nursing homes too. They wait for their families to come and see them and they never appear.
Young people just write older people off, forgetting that some day, they will be old too.
(Not that you are old)
...and I'm glad that you got help.
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RobertC2: How do we treat the flotsam and jetsam of society........ hidden away from public view until they receive the kind mercy of death to end the suffering of their painfully empty lives?
Better than we used too, and not as well as we could.
I've heard a civilization is measured by how it treats it's least disireable, but I would argue for it's least able to compete. There's nothing civilized about survival of the fittest. If we're going to play by those rules, lets play for real and stop charging me taxes.
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RobertC2: Heck, I'm having a one week rest in the SHORT stay psychiatric wing of the local hospital.............. one guy has been in the short stay now for almost 18 months as the result of a legal order so I am very lucky not to be in that position and, after three days, I've been free to go and come as I please as long as I return by 6.30 p.m. at the latest. I get discharged on Monday.
There used to be short, medium and long stay wards..... now there are only short and long stay ones.
I've only seen a few 'lost souls' wandering round the hospital gardens from the long stay; strangely only men - no women. Long stay is a life sentence; they only get put into long stay if they are NEVER going to come out and go home (if they had a home to go to).
It's very sad. A few of these guys beg for money and cigarettes. Apperently, because the government pay for their board and lodging, they get zero cash benefits; not even 50 cents per week pocket money - 'nada'!
I refused to give money or cigerettes to most of them; however I saw one poor old man in the back of a corridor who looked so sad I offered him a cigarette. He shuffled forward like a little manic penguin and grabbed the cigarette, thanked me and shuffled off again at a rate of knots like some manic little penguin with a killer whale after him.
It made me think. It made me feel quite sad. How do we treat the flotsam and jetsam of society........ hidden away from public view until they receive the kind mercy of death to end the suffering of their painfully empty lives?
There used to be short, medium and long stay wards..... now there are only short and long stay ones.
I've only seen a few 'lost souls' wandering round the hospital gardens from the long stay; strangely only men - no women. Long stay is a life sentence; they only get put into long stay if they are NEVER going to come out and go home (if they had a home to go to).
It's very sad. A few of these guys beg for money and cigarettes. Apperently, because the government pay for their board and lodging, they get zero cash benefits; not even 50 cents per week pocket money - 'nada'!
I refused to give money or cigerettes to most of them; however I saw one poor old man in the back of a corridor who looked so sad I offered him a cigarette. He shuffled forward like a little manic penguin and grabbed the cigarette, thanked me and shuffled off again at a rate of knots like some manic little penguin with a killer whale after him.
It made me think. It made me feel quite sad. How do we treat the flotsam and jetsam of society........ hidden away from public view until they receive the kind mercy of death to end the suffering of their painfully empty lives?
Where the door opens in only one direction...
you might re-think going in...
Ken kesey
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I live with someone who is manic schitsophrenic. I live at a bording house, the owner is a shrink,,,, he can deal with her stupid crap. I studdied psychology and feal that some people should not be cuddled, sure some should and would be helpfull for them. My roomate has a tendency to foam at the mouth about trivial BS and attempted to kick me and the other roomates out of 'her house' that she does not own. She believed that she was married to the owner and he had given her the house, none of wich was true.
Dennis (mercy is good but watch yourself).
Dennis (mercy is good but watch yourself).
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This practice still happens in many countries, it is a cheaper option than providing supported housing in the community, and many societies want these people locked away thro ignorance . In the UK long stay hospitals such as this have have been gradually closing, and replaced by Community Care a much more effective and humane option. Staff are trained to meet individual needs, and a valued and more independant life style offered,With on going support from health care professionals
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So pleased to see you have been pro-active in seeking the help you needed, Robert!! 
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ladyfingers: There but for the grace of God go I.
I don't know an answer. It's sad.
It's sad for people in nursing homes too. They wait for their families to come and see them and they never appear.
Young people just write older people off, forgetting that some day, they will be old too.(Not that you are old)
...and I'm glad that you got help.
I don't know an answer. It's sad.
It's sad for people in nursing homes too. They wait for their families to come and see them and they never appear.
Young people just write older people off, forgetting that some day, they will be old too.(Not that you are old)
...and I'm glad that you got help.
I agree that it could happen to any of us.
My daughter who is 22 works in a nursing home,the group she is in charge of are like her family....she loves them very much.
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roseofsharon: So pleased to see you have been pro-active in seeking the help you needed, Robert!!
Thanks - I am supposed to be discharged today after only a week (thought it would be a minimum two week 'short stay'). i think I am mostly 'ok' now but still a little nervous that they didn't give me the right meds and that if given new meds as an outpatient who is going to observe me and tell if they are the right meds and the right dosage?
Still - I've been a model patient and kind and considerate to both the other patients and the nursing staff............. if I stayed there much longer I'd probably not be able to stand the claustrophobic atmosphere, throw a 'wobbly' and go really insane!
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morgan5: The organisation i worked for provided 24 hr support, we worked in partnership the a housing assoc rents etc were paid for by benefits people recieved. Staffing was always an issue but all applicants are police checked as part of the recruitment process, and a strong line management in place, with ample on going training, support and advancement opportunities. Maybe different to the US systems.
That is the way our system is supposed to work. People had extensive background checks too but if they aren't a convicted felon and just mean people it won't show up. We had plenty of training to which most of the staff paid no attention. It wasn't just our facility either. Like I said I found out it was widespread.
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There used to be short, medium and long stay wards..... now there are only short and long stay ones.
I've only seen a few 'lost souls' wandering round the hospital gardens from the long stay; strangely only men - no women. Long stay is a life sentence; they only get put into long stay if they are NEVER going to come out and go home (if they had a home to go to).
It's very sad. A few of these guys beg for money and cigarettes. Apperently, because the government pay for their board and lodging, they get zero cash benefits; not even 50 cents per week pocket money - 'nada'!
I refused to give money or cigerettes to most of them; however I saw one poor old man in the back of a corridor who looked so sad I offered him a cigarette. He shuffled forward like a little manic penguin and grabbed the cigarette, thanked me and shuffled off again at a rate of knots like some manic little penguin with a killer whale after him.
It made me think. It made me feel quite sad. How do we treat the flotsam and jetsam of society........ hidden away from public view until they receive the kind mercy of death to end the suffering of their painfully empty lives?