If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job! (53)

Jul 25, 2009 10:22 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Sommerauer71: Ah, so it is only good looks and charisma that get people in office? I can buy that, I had forgotten that GB was not elected.

There is always a degree of judgement on a person, when applying for jobs, relating to the position. I mean I would not want a person working for me in my reception who was smelly, limp, unattractive and was not promoting my business in the right way.

I would not want my children taught in school by a person who had no self control over the way they looked. We all have mirrors, we can make ourselves look good, I don't care how big, small, fat, thin, a person is.

I think this whole business of plastic surgery is daft, but I do believe that there are and what you say is correct, that people do go and judge from looks.

I can look as plain as plain can be to the outside world, if I choose to be, somedays I do. I stick on a cap and want to stroll down the street, being unnoticed, but then there are days, where I want to feel satisfied and look in the mirror and walk out with an air of confidence and have some guy in a truck toot his horn, nothing in it, it gives me a spring in my step.

I dress in a suit everyday for work because I am promoting a dress code at our school, which is strict, so if I rock up in casual clothing then I am defeating what we are trying to acheive in that sense, teaching aside.

My father always has immaculately polished shoes, very well manicured hands, and perfect teeth, he has always drummed that into me, because people do notice and people do comment, a suit on a man can look glorious, but add a pair of scuffed shoes, a worn cuff, unkempt hair, bad breath and badly bitten fingernails, it's a right turnoff.

Put a man in the woods with jack boots on, torn trousers, muck under his nails, hair all a mess, he can still look gorgeous, but the fundamental basics of hygiene, keeping oneself in a tidy manner is not difficult to acheive and it does not have to cost much money...

Cris mentioned Marilyn Monroe, I agree with Smoky, that she was beautiful because she could be, beauty is always what a person perceives it to be, I have recently looked into the most beautiful eyes that I have ever looked into, but pass him in the street and it would be hard for any other person to see what I see.

And I happen to think that Neil Kinnock was far more attractive than John Major, who was grey, insipid, uncharismatic.

He limped around looking like he was dressed in his big brother's suit. Awful presence that man had.

Bill Clinton had charisma, still does, that man had presence and was indeed charming.

I had this thing years ago for Jimmy Nail, I found him so attractive in my 20's, my ex husband nearly had me certified...


Sommer, can you divide this post in chapters please?laugh

Yeah, to some professions, the appeatance is paramount but then the final judgment depends on the eyes of the boss.

bouquet
Jul 25, 2009 10:25 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
saseez: I feel this statement is true in some cases and in some jobs..but not in all.... i guess its what is in demand for the job that is in question ......

Just a very quik example when my daughter was 17 she went for a park time job at as a reseptionist while she was still studying, now the boss said she could have the job but she would have to wear more make up as thats what he liked to see.. now my daughter was beautiful and she did not wear or like tons of make up ... she ended up telling him were to put his job...but that type of behaviour does go on,.. now this receptionist job was in a dentist office..so it was purely for his own benifit..... now that is degrading and not right....


you can still be beautiful and still get denied a job just because the boss wants to have what appeals to him

so yes it does work both ways in society


Maybe she had to appear older for the job, hence the make-up?dunno

wine
Jul 25, 2009 10:36 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
cristina: Sommer, can you divide this post in chapters please?

Yeah, to some professions, the appeatance is paramount but then the final judgment depends on the eyes of the boss.
No, it is chaptered. Roughly, but hell, I am losing the will to leave.

It will always be down to the boss. I recently met a young girl, who was 22, not much of a life, never really had the love and steady life from her parents, who had blindly worked in various establishments to earn cash to put a roof over her head and support herself since the age of 16.

English girl, I met her here, and she began to tell me this tale of how her childhood was and what her dream was. To be a beautician. But I looked at her, saw her shoulders drooped, her whole presence was one of a unhappy person, very much unable to negotiate her way when I tried to help her, she became so burdened with me being burdened with her.

And honestly? I tried to help her, by guiding her, I told her that to be a beautician, one has to be smart, look like they know what they are selling and that at that moment, I would not be going to her for any treatments. She took this onboard and began to seek a way of feeling better about herself.

She thought that knowledge alone would get her through and yet, in her mind, she also thought that she had nothing to change about herself. But oh she did.

My point being is this, whatever we do, whatever job we go for, we are judged, Colombia are neing crazy with this, but honestly, would I want to go to a restaurant and be served by an unkempt, unhygienic person? No. Would I want to have my hair done with a person who takes no interest in themselves? No.

Would I buy a car from a salesman who knew nothing about the car? No.

I could post a whole long list of things where I would not go, I don't like being served by a person in a restaurant with a sleeveless top, because deordorant leaves a residue and I don;t fancy it dropping into my food.

Paranoid? No, I am just very picky about where I spend my hard earned.
Jul 25, 2009 10:49 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Sommerauer71: No, it is chaptered. Roughly, but hell, I am losing the will to leave.

It will always be down to the boss. I recently met a young girl, who was 22, not much of a life, never really had the love and steady life from her parents, who had blindly worked in various establishments to earn cash to put a roof over her head and support herself since the age of 16.

English girl, I met her here, and she began to tell me this tale of how her childhood was and what her dream was. To be a beautician. But I looked at her, saw her shoulders drooped, her whole presence was one of a unhappy person, very much unable to negotiate her way when I tried to help her, she became so burdened with me being burdened with her.

And honestly? I tried to help her, by guiding her, I told her that to be a beautician, one has to be smart, look like they know what they are selling and that at that moment, I would not be going to her for any treatments. She took this onboard and began to seek a way of feeling better about herself.

She thought that knowledge alone would get her through and yet, in her mind, she also thought that she had nothing to change about herself. But oh she did.

My point being is this, whatever we do, whatever job we go for, we are judged, Colombia are neing crazy with this, but honestly, would I want to go to a restaurant and be served by an unkempt, unhygienic person? No. Would I want to have my hair done with a person who takes no interest in themselves? No.

Would I buy a car from a salesman who knew nothing about the car? No.

I could post a whole long list of things where I would not go, I don't like being served by a person in a restaurant with a sleeveless top, because deordorant leaves a residue and I don;t fancy it dropping into my food.

Paranoid? No, I am just very picky about where I spend my hard earned.


Your "would I" examples are on the extreme side I guess. Those are the professions that the looks are entailed pre-requisites.
My friend meant in general terms.

Great you helped that little girl. I think I'd better have a good looking beautician taking care of me just like I don't want a fat personal trainer. And, my cleaning lady will have to be old and ugly.
Thank you.

kiss
Jul 25, 2009 10:56 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
cristina: Your "would I" examples are on the extreme side I guess. Those are the professions that the looks are entailed pre-requisites.
My friend meant in general terms.

Great you helped that little girl. I think I'd better have a good looking beautician taking care of me just like I don't want a fat personal trainer. And, my cleaning lady will have to be old and ugly.
Thank you.
They might be extreme to you, to me they are perfectly normal.

What do you mean in general terms? Any job? A fork lift driver?

A trash collector?
Jul 25, 2009 11:44 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
sweep62
sweep62sweep62york, North Yorkshire, England UK13 Posts
in Brazil you send off 5 crisp packets and they send you 2 gigantic mamalicking goobly whacking sized knockers by return post .. so I'm told .. dunno
Jul 25, 2009 11:52 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
sweep62: in Brazil you send off 5 crisp packets and they send you 2 gigantic mamalicking goobly whacking sized knockers by return post .. so I'm told ..
Fabulous, where do I get one of those?

I want one now.
Jul 25, 2009 11:57 AM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
huhala
huhalahuhalaBitola, Macedonia3 Threads 1 Polls 48 Posts
In Macedonia depends what kind of job. If you like good payment job:
1. You should have uncle on position;
2. You should be in politic.
I know many beautiful people who haven't job or haven't good job.
You can catch job if you have big abilities without previous criteria, but than you will haven't good pay and you will work for those people without abilities, you will have big mobbing and your health will be sun not much good. So, beauty can be criteria for work in stores, presentations or secretary, maybe, but here beauty is last criteria. Maybe surgery can helps keep husband or partner, maybe.. but for work I do not believe.
Jul 25, 2009 12:01 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
sweep62
sweep62sweep62york, North Yorkshire, England UK13 Posts
Sommerauer71: Fabulous, where do I get one of those?

I want one now.


one? they come in pairs as I remember ..laugh
Jul 25, 2009 12:13 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
I know you Sweep!

Don't I?
Jul 25, 2009 12:25 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
sweeps scold laugh
Jul 25, 2009 12:32 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
wha ??.. oh nothing frog
Jul 25, 2009 1:11 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
sweep62: oh I see ... was he a handsome dude? ..
wha ??..


He wasn't bad, has a lovely lady by the name of Sass...

I wonder what happened to him...

Welcome anyway sweeps, have fun.

you must think I was born yesterday.
Jul 25, 2009 2:26 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Sommerauer71: Frankly, I think that is shabby behaviour on your part, not researching everything in your countries, Cris.

Get a bloody grip and get back to brass tacks and do it! Anybody would think you had better things to do!


Buhahaaaaaaaarolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

teddybear
Jul 25, 2009 2:28 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Sommerauer71: He wasn't bad, has a lovely lady by the name of Sass...

I wonder what happened to him...

Welcome anyway sweeps, have fun.

you must think I was born yesterday.


I can't believe it's him. He wasn't banned was he?conversing

Hey you, how's summer, work in UK?lips
Jul 25, 2009 2:30 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
huhala: In Macedonia depends what kind of job. If you like good payment job:
1. You should have uncle on position;
2. You should be in politic.
I know many beautiful people who haven't job or haven't good job.
You can catch job if you have big abilities without previous criteria, but than you will haven't good pay and you will work for those people without abilities, you will have big mobbing and your health will be sun not much good. So, beauty can be criteria for work in stores, presentations or secretary, maybe, but here beauty is last criteria. Maybe surgery can helps keep husband or partner, maybe.. but for work I do not believe.


Latin/tropical stylesigh
Jul 25, 2009 3:21 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
sweep62: one? they come in pairs as I remember ..


Your profile definitely indicates you are none other than somebody called guiriman - so you probably got banned and sneaked in under another id. comfort
Jul 25, 2009 4:13 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
cristina: Yes, that's most European logic.


I wasn't serious, you know rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 25, 2009 4:29 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
mike69spain: I wasn't serious, you know


Now that you've mention it, I feel I got the message wrongly (not English problem but overlook)laugh thus, I didn't mean to be sarcastic!grin rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

uh oh
Jul 25, 2009 4:32 PM CST If you're not beautiful, you don't get a job!
sweep62
sweep62sweep62york, North Yorkshire, England UK13 Posts
cristina: I can't believe it's him. He wasn't banned was he?

Hey you, how's summer, work in UK?


do you think they's ban a gentleman like me? .. laugh
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