The Middle East Conflict: Who started it? ( Archived) (74)

Jul 19, 2006 10:19 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Anyone care for an intelligent discussion?
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Jul 19, 2006 10:20 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Seems to me Hezzbola (spelling?) started it.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:21 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
ye, good thought, I was referring to the VERY start of the conflict though, ie. back in biblical times
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Jul 19, 2006 10:26 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Start of conflict? Egypt?
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Jul 19, 2006 10:29 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Hmm. Is that a guess? There has been a lot of fighting between jews and muslims and chirstians...i wonder why they must fight so much
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Jul 19, 2006 10:32 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
I read way too many books. I really try not to think of Armegeddon, the Apocolypse. Scares me...
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Jul 19, 2006 10:35 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Are u a christian...I'm considering getting baptised. I think Jesus was a good guy
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Jul 19, 2006 10:35 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
I beleive it goes all the way back to Abraham and the son by Sarah's handmaiden. That is where it all began as she and her son where sent away.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:41 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
The Hebrews and Muslims claim the same father Abraham and the same birthright. The Christian invaded the Holy lands to free them in crusades and murdered and killed. So they didn't like it and returned the favor. Thats the short version. Somewhat.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:42 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Jesus was a good guy. God? Don't know.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:43 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Time for a break I think!!!!
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Jul 19, 2006 10:44 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Ye, that sounds about right. But why do muslims hate jews so much. They dont all hate jews right? Do the Hezbollah for example attack Israel for religious purposes or is it simply about money and power....

Does Man's need for power always end up overtaking his religous motivations?
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Jul 19, 2006 10:45 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
I know you're not Swiss. But ya got that whole "neutral" thang goin' on
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Jul 19, 2006 10:47 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Wait. so if God orderd the other child sent away, then doesnt that mean He started the great divide betweens muslims and jews???
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Jul 19, 2006 10:48 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Hezzbola hate all Jews. Muslims, themselves do not hate Jews. Yeah, Hezzbolla hates Jews and wants to see them all dead. The Muslim religion doesn't hate Jews. Just my opinion.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:51 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
iRon12345
iRon12345iRon12345Tempe, USA35 Threads 2,473 Posts
I think they fight because they have no legal protection of their beliefs. My neighbor on the right is a Jew on the left is a Muslim I am a Christen but we are all Americans and as Americans our rights state we legally have the right to believe as we wish. They don’t have that so their only answer is and always has been to fight. Just an observation. dunno
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Jul 19, 2006 10:52 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
The fight is over the Holy lands. They both want the same land, which is the Holy lands that was a birthright. The promised land.

God did not cause it! It is the same human nature as today that caused it.

There is a lot to it. A good history book of the topic is really needed to fully grasp it.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:55 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
The Middle East is ugly. Do you really think the "people" have nothing to do with it?
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Jul 19, 2006 10:59 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Ye, but why would God send off the other son, he shouldve kept them both together.. then they woould both have the same beliefs and no fighting
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Jul 19, 2006 10:59 PM CST The Middle East Conflict: Who started it?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
The stink about Abrahams sons is this. (as best as I recall) The son by the handmaid was first born and they claim the birthright. But Abrahams son by Sarah was the one that recieved the birthright. He was first born of Abraham with Sarah. The child with Sarah has birthright, But the other claims Birthright. So, Big long fight!
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