bailey_beezOPNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada1,118 posts
I brought my kids to a local zoo called ZOOZ. It's a great place, not far from here close to the US border, it's nice, 110acres, lots of animals (somewhere near 500 I think I heard today) a variety of creatures: big cats, birds of prey, giraffes, primates, hippos, moose, deer, elk, buffalo etc. Has a splash pad for the kids to cool off, catch & release fishing, paddle boats & a train thingy to take you around the park. The neat thing is they have lots of shows that teach you all about the different creatures in the park- all of which have been aquired by the zoo because someone had them as pets previously, or they came from another zoo. Anyway, we were walking around & came to the cage of a single porcupine. He was walking around the bottom of his cage, climbed up onto his hind legs, grabbed the fence & essentially cried. The sound he was making was like a wimper from a dog who wants in or out of the house. After I walked away from that cage, I started looking at these other animals a little differently- the lion was pacing around his cage, growling then roaring and I wondered if maybe he was saying "let me the hell out of here"? They all seemed to have a sad look on their faces, broken maybe? What are your views on zoos and aquariums- etc? and more importantly, why?
bailey_beezOPNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada1,118 posts
I heard in each of the shows that the animals couldn't be released because they'd been exposed to too many humans and didn't have the ability (they have the natural instinct but no how-to) of hunting. Some were rehabilitated after accidents, like some of the eagles they have, but they can't fly properly so they'd probably die without the zoo. Does that make it any better?
at the same time, the zoos provide a little bit of education for humans...and a gentling touch. easier to care about the future of an animal that one has actually seen the magnificence of.
while sad...i'm not sure what the answer is. they serve a purpose...and are involved in saving endangered species, as well.
bailey_beezOPNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada1,118 posts
I have to say, I'd rather watch a documentary. But should the animals who can't survive without help, be isolated & alone so that no one profits from the "entertainment" or education that they bring?
We have no need for a zoo now... if it was natural to reach out and touch an animanl as a friend we would ahve been doing so for teh last 1000 years.
Again now we have the web... libraries, Museums.. wax museums, etc... the world is our oyster.. we are killing creatures by caging them yes..
we are destroying their natural environments and then taking them for our viewing pleasure.. now isn't that nice? In the real HUMAN WORLD we call that break and enter, as well as FORCIABLE CONFINEMENT, and people are thrown in jail for years for doing this....
Here we are being patrons to the thing we hate most.. CRIME
Zoos to me serve the purpose of allowing us to see the animals up close and to realize that they are indeed real living creatures ... not just a documentary or tv show.
They are magnicifient creatures that we need to protect and I think by allowing humans to have this contact it can and should make us more conscious of protecting their habitant.
I think its very easy for people to disassociate themselves and allow the rampage of their habitant to continue when they have not seen a creature with their own eyes. Are people passionate about anything unless they have been affected directly?
How many people complain about their lives and even bicker here on the forums over trivial matters when there are millions of people truly suffering in the world from hunger and poverty. We do not "see" these people who are dying - so do we take any action to save them. How would we change our views if we took a single day to visit their reality?
Dogs cats and hamsters were breed by humans and have no place in the wild... Dogs would die if you let them go and I have read that the house cat does more damage to the natural environment when they are let go then any other pet.
bailey_beezOPNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada1,118 posts
at some point, darlin even my golden retriever's ancestors were wild. So it's ok to have pets as long as they were domesticated thousands of years ago? I guess in another 1000 years, a zoo will be a good thing cause it was started so long ago?
I am generally uncomfortable with zoos, but believe there are good and bad ones. Some manage to create a near natural habitat for many of the animals (not all, tigers for ex.)
I would hope we have gotten smarter then we were thousands of years ago but I guess not because some zoos are mix breading tigers with lions and calling them liger's and no I don't think they should be let go because of the damage they could do.. I just don't think that now we shouldn't be making the same mistakes..
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Anyway, we were walking around & came to the cage of a single porcupine. He was walking around the bottom of his cage, climbed up onto his hind legs, grabbed the fence & essentially cried. The sound he was making was like a wimper from a dog who wants in or out of the house. After I walked away from that cage, I started looking at these other animals a little differently- the lion was pacing around his cage, growling then roaring and I wondered if maybe he was saying "let me the hell out of here"? They all seemed to have a sad look on their faces, broken maybe?
What are your views on zoos and aquariums- etc? and more importantly, why?