I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad... ( Archived) (46)

Jul 23, 2006 4:13 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
bailey_beez
bailey_beezbailey_beezNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada12 Threads 1,118 Posts
I brought my kids to a local zoo called ZOOZ. It's a great place, not far from here close to the US border, it's nice, 110acres, lots of animals (somewhere near 500 I think I heard today) a variety of creatures: big cats, birds of prey, giraffes, primates, hippos, moose, deer, elk, buffalo etc. Has a splash pad for the kids to cool off, catch & release fishing, paddle boats & a train thingy to take you around the park. The neat thing is they have lots of shows that teach you all about the different creatures in the park- all of which have been aquired by the zoo because someone had them as pets previously, or they came from another zoo.
Anyway, we were walking around & came to the cage of a single porcupine. He was walking around the bottom of his cage, climbed up onto his hind legs, grabbed the fence & essentially cried. The sound he was making was like a wimper from a dog who wants in or out of the house. After I walked away from that cage, I started looking at these other animals a little differently- the lion was pacing around his cage, growling then roaring and I wondered if maybe he was saying "let me the hell out of here"? They all seemed to have a sad look on their faces, broken maybe?
What are your views on zoos and aquariums- etc? and more importantly, why?
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Jul 23, 2006 4:18 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
betrayed
betrayedbetrayedAustin, Arkansas USA47 Threads 699 Posts
Zoos are inhumane and cruel. They exploit a living creature for a profit. I'm not an animal activist but I can't see how that is morally right.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:21 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
bailey_beez
bailey_beezbailey_beezNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada12 Threads 1,118 Posts
I heard in each of the shows that the animals couldn't be released because they'd been exposed to too many humans and didn't have the ability (they have the natural instinct but no how-to) of hunting. Some were rehabilitated after accidents, like some of the eagles they have, but they can't fly properly so they'd probably die without the zoo. Does that make it any better?
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Jul 23, 2006 4:22 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
WindRider
WindRiderWindRiderPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania USA11 Threads 602 Posts
I believe all animals should be left in the wild and we should all stop taking living things away from their homes just because we can.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:24 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
betrayed
betrayedbetrayedAustin, Arkansas USA47 Threads 699 Posts
Is there any excuse for keeping an animal in a cage for people's entertainment?
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Jul 23, 2006 4:25 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
at the same time, the zoos provide a little bit of education for humans...and a gentling touch. easier to care about the future of an animal that one has actually seen the magnificence of.

while sad...i'm not sure what the answer is. they serve a purpose...and are involved in saving endangered species, as well.

however...it's still a cage.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:25 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
bailey_beez
bailey_beezbailey_beezNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada12 Threads 1,118 Posts
I have to say, I'd rather watch a documentary. But should the animals who can't survive without help, be isolated & alone so that no one profits from the "entertainment" or education that they bring?
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Jul 23, 2006 4:27 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
sadly enough, it takes LOTS of money to run a zoo. they NEED the income generated to be able to keep said injured animals.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:28 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
betrayed
betrayedbetrayedAustin, Arkansas USA47 Threads 699 Posts
I don't like zoos. That's all I have to say about that.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:29 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
Zoos are great for the animals, they don't have to worry about getting dinner, washing, cleaning up after themselves, or even meeting new mates.

You should read "Life of Pi" if you haven't already it's a good, short book that discusses these issues ina thought-provoking way.

grin
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Jul 23, 2006 4:30 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
bailey_beez
bailey_beezbailey_beezNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada12 Threads 1,118 Posts
and so, we should assume you don't have a dog, cat, hamster or goldfish in your house? Because they are all living things that used to have homes...
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Jul 23, 2006 4:31 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
bailey_beez
bailey_beezbailey_beezNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada12 Threads 1,118 Posts
I appreciate that clearskiez, I'll pick that up next time I'm at the biblio.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:31 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
Maybe my x was in the same cage.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Was the cage 1000x1000.
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Jul 23, 2006 4:38 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
shallyjean
shallyjeanshallyjeanWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada45 Threads 624 Posts
We have no need for a zoo now... if it was natural to reach out and touch an animanl as a friend we would ahve been doing so for teh last 1000 years.

Again now we have the web... libraries, Museums.. wax museums, etc... the world is our oyster.. we are killing creatures by caging them yes..

we are destroying their natural environments and then taking them for our viewing pleasure.. now isn't that nice? In the real HUMAN WORLD we call that break and enter, as well as FORCIABLE CONFINEMENT, and people are thrown in jail for years for doing this....

Here we are being patrons to the thing we hate most.. CRIMEvery mad
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Jul 23, 2006 4:58 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
Zoos to me serve the purpose of allowing us to see the animals up close and to realize that they are indeed real living creatures ... not just a documentary or tv show.

They are magnicifient creatures that we need to protect and I think by allowing humans to have this contact it can and should make us more conscious of protecting their habitant.

I think its very easy for people to disassociate themselves and allow the rampage of their habitant to continue when they have not seen a creature with their own eyes. Are people passionate about anything unless they have been affected directly?

How many people complain about their lives and even bicker here on the forums over trivial matters when there are millions of people truly suffering in the world from hunger and poverty. We do not "see" these people who are dying - so do we take any action to save them. How would we change our views if we took a single day to visit their reality?
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Jul 23, 2006 5:21 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
WindRider
WindRiderWindRiderPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania USA11 Threads 602 Posts
Dogs cats and hamsters were breed by humans and have no place in the wild... Dogs would die if you let them go and I have read that the house cat does more damage to the natural environment when they are let go then any other pet.
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Jul 23, 2006 5:23 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
bailey_beez
bailey_beezbailey_beezNiagara Falls, Ontario Canada12 Threads 1,118 Posts
at some point, darlin even my golden retriever's ancestors were wild. So it's ok to have pets as long as they were domesticated thousands of years ago? I guess in another 1000 years, a zoo will be a good thing cause it was started so long ago?
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Jul 23, 2006 5:30 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
steve25
steve25steve25Nerja, Andalusia Spain1 Threads 251 Posts
I am generally uncomfortable with zoos, but believe there are good and bad ones. Some manage to create a near natural habitat for many of the animals (not all, tigers for ex.)

But I hate cages, they are sad and depressing.
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Jul 23, 2006 5:32 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
WindRider
WindRiderWindRiderPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania USA11 Threads 602 Posts
I would hope we have gotten smarter then we were thousands of years ago but I guess not because some zoos are mix breading tigers with lions and calling them liger's and no I don't think they should be let go because of the damage they could do.. I just don't think that now we shouldn't be making the same mistakes..
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Jul 23, 2006 5:34 PM CST I went to the zoo today, and came home sorta sad...
WindRider
WindRiderWindRiderPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania USA11 Threads 602 Posts
shouldn't should be should (typo)
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