Godsgift: Just for today, I will exercise my soul in three ways:
I will do somebody a good turn, and not get found out.
I will do at least two things I don't want to--just for exercise.
I will not show anyone that my feelings are hurt; they may be hurt, but today I will not show it.
Let's see how we get on!
I know this one..I like it mostly, its about growth, body mind n spirit..I believe thats what life is all about, GROWTH, body mind n spirit..Unfortunatly I don't concur with the paragraph about not showing my hurt feelings..I know for me that suppressing feelings (especially hurt) is unhealthy ..Suppression over time leads enevitably to depression..But like I said I like it mostly..Nice one godsgift..Of course its imposssible to live up to, you'd have to be a Saint and who on earth wants to be Canonized, I'd have to miss out on all that naughty fun stuff thats part of the Joy of being a Human Being, if you know what I mean
I see it a wee bit different but I know what you mean. As long as I acknowledge my feelings to myself and don't ignore them then this is character building. If I am responsible for how I feel (an I don't mean to blame), then I should have enough resources inside me to deal with it. My main problem however is that my ego doesn't like it too much.It's got an exagerated sense of its own importance.
OR (Using a different model)
Acknowledge your inner child but put some manners on him. There's a time and place where venting frustration is appropriate. And from experience, in front of a gard or a bank manager is not the right occaision. Let him out to play once in a while and try not to bully him.(Been at war with me most of my life)
Godsgift: I see it a wee bit different but I know what you mean. As long as I acknowledge my feelings to myself and don't ignore them then this is character building. If I am responsible for how I feel (an I don't mean to blame), then I should have enough resources inside me to deal with it. My main problem however is that my ego doesn't like it too much.It's got an exagerated sense of its own importance.
OR (Using a different model)
Acknowledge your inner child but put some manners on him. There's a time and place where venting frustration is appropriate. And from experience, in front of a gard or a bank manager is not the right occaision. Let him out to play once in a while and try not to bully him.(Been at war with me most of my life)
Yea can identify with that, used 2 be savage wit that hurt, angry, lost little Child Within..No I did'nt mean its ok 2 vent frustration or anger at anyone in the here and now, but if someone hurts my feelings, its appropriate to say something like "I feel hurt by that, or when people behave in that way etc"..Not for the purpose of gaining a moral victory or whatever..But 2 validate my feelings and therefore hopefully diffuse them..Then the Inner Child does'nt get into the frustrated, angry childish Child syndrome..An for me it is especially nessary in a loving relationship with a woman..Honest comunication is a must in loving relatinships, it envokes a deeper intimacy that cannot be reached without it..By the way, be ever so gentle with your ego godsgift
morge8: Yea can identify with that, used 2 be savage wit that hurt, angry, lost little Child Within..No I did'nt mean its ok 2 vent frustration or anger at anyone in the here and now, but if someone hurts my feelings, its appropriate to say something like "I feel hurt by that, or when people behave in that way etc"..Not for the purpose of gaining a moral victory or whatever..But 2 validate my feelings and therefore hopefully diffuse them..Then the Inner Child does'nt get into the frustrated, angry childish Child syndrome..An for me it is especially nessary in a loving relationship with a woman..Honest comunication is a must in loving relatinships, it envokes a deeper intimacy that cannot be reached without it..By the way, be ever so gentle with your ego godsgift
Am reading some books by a Buddhist nun called Pema Chodron at the moment which is all about nurturing yourself and being gentle with your ego. When you achieve compassion for yourself, you can achieve compassion for all others.
LadyBlackAdder: Am reading some books by a Buddhist nun called Pema Chodron at the moment which is all about nurturing yourself and being gentle with your ego. When you achieve compassion for yourself, you can achieve compassion for all others.
Yea spot on ladyblackadder sounds 2 me like ur reading my kind of books. Da Buddhists know there stuff, they've bin at it for more than 4000 yrs,(the gentle way..living in harmony wit nature). For me all begins wit self..Self Forgiveness..Self Compassion..Love is da highest Spiritual Plane and compassion is da purest form of love..I had to learn self compassion before I could forgive my ego drivin mistakes and because of that I hav 2 forgive others ego driven errors and show compassion towards them..Compassion comes from the Greek, it literally means "to walk in pain with another", so self compassion means to allow myself to feel and experience my own core pain from the past, and mourne any current losses 2..I probably sound like da nutty professor but I spent the last five yrs doing this and experiencing this and it has literally saved my life and healed me of so much of the baggage i'd been unconsciously hauling around with me
LadyBlackAdder: Am reading some books by a Buddhist nun called Pema Chodron at the moment which is all about nurturing yourself and being gentle with your ego. When you achieve compassion for yourself, you can achieve compassion for all others.
Spot on hon! We can't transmit what we do not have. So we can't have an honest loving relationship with another human being till we have one with ourself. The secret is to love ourself till that love overflows to others. Sounds simple enough except a lot of people seem to think love is an emotion. It's not!
Godsgift: Spot on hon! We can't transmit what we do not have. So we can't have an honest loving relationship with another human being till we have one with ourself. The secret is to love ourself till that love overflows to others. Sounds simple enough except a lot of people seem to think love is an emotion. It's not!
You have to enlighten me, Keith!!!
I am one of those that think Love is an emotion. Albeit one that can do a lot of good. What is it so?
LadyBlackAdder: You have to enlighten me, Keith!!!
I am one of those that think Love is an emotion. Albeit one that can do a lot of good. What is it so?
That walking on air feeling doesn't last.Ask your parents. It has to be replaced by something more practical and solid. Love has to bind people together regardless of how we are feeling.Think of what drives you to care for and protect your kids even if you are angry with them.
Most of us are idealistic and if we're honest we're quite selfish about that.We like to be in love cos it makes us feel good,safe and secure. Well yhere are drugs that do that but I wouldn't call it love.
That kind of love can be destructive, the root of jealousy, fear and posessiveness.Far from making things grow, it can suck the life out of things and stifle growth. Used to be a bit of a vampire myself.
No, love is a commitment we make and a responsibility we take. It's a choice and it deepens over time.It has real power...a higher power if you like. It says that 'I'm For You. I'm going to be what YOU need me to be and when that is the same as what YOU want me to be it feels great.
If you need me to be kind and gentle, I'll be that. If you need me to be tough to protect you from yourself, I'll be that. I will measure what I feel you can do for yourself and I will do anything in my power to support you to help you grow.
And what you can't do for yourself, then I will try to do it for you or at least help you. But I am constantly asking myself, 'What do you need right now?'
Now all that is fine except a lot of us don't know what is good for ourselves so how can we know what's good for others.
So the secret is to apply all these things in a relationship with ourselves first.That's the hard part involving a lot of trial and error. We have to learn to accept ourselves, good and bad, warts and all inspite of our failings and regardless of our history. We have to show ourselves compassion and not be judgemental. See how hard this is!
It's a lot easier if we stumble across one of these special selfless people in this life who do it for us first. They love us without looking for reward.
But it's one of these journeys that never ends. And it can be harder to recieve love than to give it...that's another days work.
So through that love and comittment, we don't feel love but we do feel loved! And loved people aren't afraid. They don't suffer alcoholism, drug addiction, bulemia, anorexia or any other of the delusional obsessive illnesses. They have tapped into a power that sustains them through their day and they don't need a substitute.
OK, what a philisophical start to the day. I'm off to York to the National Railway Museum cos I'm a bit of an anorak with my love for steam engines!
Godsgift: That walking on air feeling doesn't last.Ask your parents. It has to be replaced by something more practical and solid. Love has to bind people together regardless of how we are feeling.Think of what drives you to care for and protect your kids even if you are angry with them.
Most of us are idealistic and if we're honest we're quite selfish about that.We like to be in love cos it makes us feel good,safe and secure. Well yhere are drugs that do that but I wouldn't call it love.
That kind of love can be destructive, the root of jealousy, fear and posessiveness.Far from making things grow, it can suck the life out of things and stifle growth. Used to be a bit of a vampire myself.
No, love is a commitment we make and a responsibility we take. It's a choice and it deepens over time.It has real power...a higher power if you like. It says that 'I'm For You. I'm going to be what YOU need me to be and when that is the same as what YOU want me to be it feels great.
If you need me to be kind and gentle, I'll be that. If you need me to be tough to protect you from yourself, I'll be that. I will measure what I feel you can do for yourself and I will do anything in my power to support you to help you grow.
And what you can't do for yourself, then I will try to do it for you or at least help you. But I am constantly asking myself, 'What do you need right now?'
Now all that is fine except a lot of us don't know what is good for ourselves so how can we know what's good for others.
So the secret is to apply all these things in a relationship with ourselves first.That's the hard part involving a lot of trial and error. We have to learn to accept ourselves, good and bad, warts and all inspite of our failings and regardless of our history. We have to show ourselves compassion and not be judgemental. See how hard this is!
It's a lot easier if we stumble across one of these special selfless people in this life who do it for us first. They love us without looking for reward.But it's one of these journeys that never ends. And it can be harder to recieve love than to give it...that's another days work.
So through that love and comittment, we don't feel love but we do feel loved! And loved people aren't afraid. They don't suffer alcoholism, drug addiction, bulemia, anorexia or any other of the delusional obsessive illnesses. They have tapped into a power that sustains them through their day and they don't need a substitute.
OK, what a philisophical start to the day. I'm off to York to the National Railway Museum cos I'm a bit of an anorak with my love for steam engines!
I agree that it is harder to receive love than to give it. The problems arise when we demand that the other proves their love to us to our satisfaction, when the truth is we do not love ourselves enough to recognise when we are truly loved. That is when we become vampires of spirit.
However, I would have to say that when we first and foremost learn to love ourselves, we can truly love another without making demands on them. That is when we overcome the other emotional crutches that we have taken on in life. When we can love ourselves we can receive love from others, and love them back truly in return.
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ways:
I will do somebody a good turn, and
not get found out.
I will do at least two
things I don't want to--just for exercise.
I will not show anyone that my feelings are
hurt; they may be hurt, but today I will not
show it.
Let's see how we get on!